GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THE
ASSEMBLY GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE IS NOW
CALLED TO ORDER. I SEE AN
AUTHOR. SO, FOR THE SAKE OF
TIMELINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO
BEGIN. WE'RE GOING TO START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. AS SOON AS WE CAN
ESTABLISH A QUORUM, WE WILL.
SENATOR DODD, CAN YOU COME UP,
WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, SB
495, BY, SENATOR DODD. Ó. THERE
WE GO. THANK YOU. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER. THAT SOUNDS A LOT
BETTER, DOESN'T IT, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, SB 495 IS NEARLY
IDENTICAL TO A COUPLE OF BILLS
THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY
HEARD AND SUPPORTED, SO I'LL TRY
TO KEEP THIS BRIEF. SB 495 SEEKS
TO DO TWO MAJOR THINGS. THE
FIRST IS TO EXPAND ON COCKTAILS
TO GO BY ADDING BARS TO THOSE
PROVISIONS, REMOVING THE MEAL
REQUIREMENT, AND ALLOWING FOR
THE DELIVERY OF COCKTAILS
DIRECTLY TO A CONSUMER'S DOOR.
THE ABILITY TO INCLUDE ALCOHOLIC
DRINKS HAS BEEN A LIFELINE TO
OUR RESTAURANT INDUSTRY DURING
COVID 19. THIS BILL SIMPLY SEEKS
TO CONTINUE ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL ELEMENTS OF THE
EMERGENCY REGULATORY PANDEMIC
RELIEF. IN ADDITION, THIS BILL
REQUIRES THIRD PARTY DELIVERY
COMPANIES WHO ARE DELIVERING
ALCOHOL ON BEHALF OF THE ALCOHOL
LICENSEE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF ABC. AS THE
ANALYSIS POINTS OUT, UNDER
CURRENT LAW, ABC HAS NO
STATUTORY OVERSIGHT WHATSOEVER
OVER THIRD PARTY DELIVERY
COMPANIES THAT DELIVER ALCOHOL.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH
THAT. THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
VERY CLEAR THAT IT CANNOT
SANCTION THIRD PARTY DELIVERY
COMPANIES, AND THEREFORE
RESPONSIBLE K¾T IN ANY POTENTIAL
CRIMINAL LIABILITY IS ONLY WITH
THE DRIVER AND THE LICENSEE THAT
SOLD THE ALCOHOL. SB 495 SOLVES
THIS PROBLEM BY SHIFTING SOME
RESPONSIBILITY TO THIRD PARTY
DELIVERY COMPANIES AND PROVIDING
ABC WITH OVERSIGHT ON ALL
ALCOHOL DELIVERIES. I WANT TO BE
VERY CLEAR THAT THIS DOES NOT
LEGALIZE THE DELIVERY OF ALCOHOL
BY THIRD PARTY DELIVERY
COMPANIES, BY EITHER GROCERY
STORES OR EVEN RESTAURANTS, AS
THE ANALYST POINTS OUT, CURRENT
LAW ALREADY ALLOWS ALL TYPES OF
ALCOHOL TO BE DELIVERED BY THIRD
PARTY COMPANIES ON BEHALF OF
GROCERY STORES AND ABILITY.
THESE COMPANIES TO DELIVER WINE
AND BEER ON BEHALF OF
RESTAURANTS. WHAT THIS BILL DOES
IS PROVIDE A COMMON SENSE
APPROACH THAT GIVES THE
DEPARTMENT OF ABC THE NECESSARY
OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE THAT
DELIVERIES ARE BEING DONE IN A
RESPONSIBLE MANNER, THAT
PROTECTS AGAINST UNDERAGE
DRINKING AND OVER INTOXICATE
NATION. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT
THE BILL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE
ABC TO FIND DELIVERY DRIVERS.
THE BILL ON PAGE 27, LINE 28,
MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THESE FINES
WOULD BE AGAINST THE HOLDER OF
THE PERMIT. THIS IS SIMILAR TO
HOW AN EMPLOYEE AT A RESTAURANT
IS NOT THE ENTITY RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE FINE. I'D LIKE TO END MY
COMMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING. I
UNDERSTAND LABOR'S CONCERN AND
OPPOSITION TO THIRD PARTY
DELIVERY COMPANIES. I GET THAT,
BUT I MYSELF VOTED FOR AB FIVE.
HOWEVER, THE REALITY IS THAT
RIGHT NOW, UNDER CURRENT LAW,
ALCOHOL DELIVERY BY A THIRD
PARTY DELIVERY COMPANY IS
COMPLETELY LEGAL WITH OR WITHOUT
THIS BILL, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO
HAPPEN. THE QUESTION IS NOT
WHETHER TO LEGALIZE ALCOHOL
DELIVERY, BUT WHETHER THIRD
PARTY DELIVERY COMPANIES SHOULD
TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE HERE. WITH ME TODAY IS MATT
SUTTON FROM THE CALIFORNIA
RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, MATT SUTTON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION CERTAINLY WANT TO
THANK SENATOR DODD FOR HIS
CONTINUED WORK IN THIS SPACE,
AND PATIENCE, THE BILL JUST GETS
BETTER WITH TIME. AND I THINK
THE SENATOR HAS ADEQUATELY
POINTED OUT THE ADDITIONAL
SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE HERE. SO
JUST A QUICK HISTORY. WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS A POLICY THAT
CAME ABOUT DURING THE OUTSET OF
THE PANDEMIC VIA EMERGENCY
REGULATIONS FROM ABC THAT
ALLOWED BEER, WINE AND COCKTAILS
TO BE DELIVERED FROM RESTAURANTS
FOR DELIVERY, THE COCKTAIL
PIECE, THE SPIRITS PIECE HAS
LAPSED, AND SO WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS BEER AND WINE
ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO BE
DELIVERED FROM RESTAURANTS TO
CONSUMERS. THIS SIMPLY CREATES
SOME EQUITY, FOR SPIRITS AND
COCKTAILS. ADDITIONALLY, I THINK
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART HERE IS
THAT THE BILL ACTUALLY ADDS
PUBLIC SAFETY GUARDRAILS. AND IT
DOES THAT WITH THE DELIVERY
SERVICE PERMIT THAT IS REQUIRED,
AND IT DOES IT WITH A NUMBER OF
OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MUST
DO BEFORE WE SEND ANY ALCOHOL
OUT, OUT THE DOOR, AND SO I KNOW
THAT LAST MILE HAS BEEN A
CONCERN, SO TO SPEAK, THE ACTUAL
DELIVERY AND THE EXCHANGE. AND
TO THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT IN THE
OUTSET OF THE PANDEMIC, THERE
WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CLUNKINESS
ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS WITH THE
PANDEMIC POLICIES IN THE ENTIRE
WORLD, THIS ONE HAD A FEW TO ABC
WAS INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE. AND
THEIR DATA, THEIR ACTUAL NUMBERS
SHOWED A DECLINE IN THE PROBLEMS
RELATED TO THIS POLICY. AND A
LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE
SAFEGUARDS THAT HAVE BEEN IN
EFFECT BEFORE. AND I THINK WITH
THESE BEING ADDED, WE'LL JUST
INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
CREATE A GOOD SWEET SPOT HERE
AND BRING ALCOHOL, PARITY TO
BEER, WINE AND SPIRITS FOR
DELIVERY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? OKAY BRING IT UP TO THE
PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CHAIR,
MEMBERS, B¢O BILLER, ON BEHALF
OF GOPUFF BEVMO IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. VOTE. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN
SUPPORT? THANK YOU. WE'LL GO
AHEAD AND MOVE, TO THE NEXT,
COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION. THÀNH
ANYONE TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION?
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO
THE CHAIR AND THE, THE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS
CARSON BENOWITZ FREDERICKS. I'M
THE RESEARCH DIRECTOR AT ALCOHOL
JUSTICE IN SAN RAFAEL. WE'RE A
NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO PROMOTING
PUBLIC POLICY THAT UPHOLDS
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, WE
ACTUALLY, WELL, WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL ENTIRELY BECAUSE OF THE
COCKTAIL DELIVERY PORTION, AND
THE MAIN REASON HERE IS THAT WE
FIND THAT, ALCOHOL HARM IS
INCREASING WILDLY IN THE STATE.
AND ONE OF THE AND WE HAVE
ACTUALLY HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE
DATA COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC
ERA, ALLOWANCE. AND WHAT WE
ACTUALLY HAVE FOUND IS THAT THE
COCKTAILS TO GO ARE MOST
FREQUENTLY CONSUMED BY THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY AT THE
BORDERLINE OF REALLY DANGEROUS
DRINKING. AND SO THIS LIKE A LOT
OF POLICIES THAT THE KIND OF
REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU
CONSIDER YOUR CHOICES TO DRINK,
REALLY IS THE THING THAT KIND OF
PUSHES PEOPLE OVER THE
BORDERLINE INTO RISKY DRINKING.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHILE WE I
ALSO RIGHT JOIN THE SUPPORTERS
AND PRAISING ABC'S WORK IN
BRINGING THE NUMBER OF ILLEGAL
SALES TO MINORS DOWN. THE FACT
IS, EACH OF THOSE LEGAL SALES TO
MINORS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF IT
WEREN'T FOR COCKTAILS BY
DELIVERY. SO FOR THOSE REASONS,
WE ASK THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE NO
ON THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
IN OPPOSITION? THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. MY NAME IS
RAUL VERDUGO. I REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA ALCOHOL POLICY
ALLIANCE AND WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL. SB SB 485, BECAUSE WE FEEL
THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES THAT
MANY OF OUR COUNTIES FACE ARE
NOT DUE TO A LACK OF
AVAILABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO
ALCOHOL, BUT RATHER AN INCREASE
IN ACCESS THAT DOESN'T DIMINISH
OR EXTRICATE UNDERAGE YOUTH
CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL. DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND PHYSICAL ASSAULTS,
WHERE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION
CONTRIBUTES TO THEIR OUTCOMES.
FOR THESE REASONS, WE ASK THAT
THE COMMITTEE RESPECTIVELY NOT
SUPPORT SB 495. THANKS THANK
YOU. OKAY, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
, ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION? OKAY
SEEING NONE, DO ANY OF THE
MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? I'M I'M SORRY. SAY
THAT AGAIN. ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.
YES. AND WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
YET. SO AS SOON AS WE DO, WE CAN
GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A COMMENT, THE AND I COMPLETELY
UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE
OPPOSITION IS SAYING. THE
OPPOSITION HAS STATED THAT THIRD
PARTY DELIVERY SERVICES ARE
ROUTINELY DELIVERED, DELIVERING
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BEVERAGES TO
MINORS. AND WE KNOW THAT UNDER
CURRENT LAW, THE ABC HAS NO
AUTHORITY TO REGULATE OR TAKE
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST
THIRD PARTY DELIVERY COMPANIES.
SO WOULDN'T, IN MY OPINION,
WOULDN'T IT BE BEST TO BRING
THEM UNDER A REGULATED SCHEME
WHERE THEY CAN BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACTIONS
WHILE, PROTECTING THE INTERESTS
OF THE STATES? AS I BELIEVE THAT
SB 495 ACTUALLY PUTS IN THE
GUARDRAILS AND AGAIN, TO THE
OPPOSITION'S POINT, AND I KNOW
OUR LABOR FRIENDS ARE OPPOSED AS
WELL, THE LAW ALREADY SAYS THAT
THEY'RE BEING DELIVERED. I SEE
IT THIS MORE OF A, A GUARDRAIL
SO THAT, THE DELIVERY COMPANIES
HAVE TO GET REGULATED BY ABC
FURTHER PUTTING, PUTTING MORE,
REGULATIONS IN PLACE SO THAT,
THOSE THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE
RULES, ABC HAS A BETTER
OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO
FIND THEM AND FIND THOSE ACTORS,
AS AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS FROM THE OPPOSITION. MY
OPINION IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY
STRENGTHENING THE REGULATIONS SO
THAT THE, THE, SALE TO MINORS OR
THE UNREGULATED SALES ARE
AVOIDED. SO THANK YOU, WITH
THAT, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM, SENATOR, CAN YOU, YOU
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE?
MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO USE
YOUR COMMENTS AS MY CLOSE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH TO THE MEMBER,
CHAIRMAN, AND TO THE MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. AND AGAIN,
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, WE
WILL, HAVE A MOTION OR, WHEN
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. I KNOW
THAT SENATOR WIENER WAS ON HIS
WAY AND IS, SENATOR BRADFORD IS
ALSO ON HIS WAY. I HAVE NOT
HEARD FROM SENATOR DURAZZO. IF
SHE'S AVAILABLE, WE CAN TAKE HER
BEFORE THE OTHER TWO IF SHE
ARRIVES. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. I
UNDERSTAND THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
VALENCIA IS GOING TO BE
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
DURAZZO. THANK YOU. WE CAN
ESTABLISH QUORUM, MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL
? ON THE QUORUM, RUBIO. RUBIO
HERE. LACKEY. LACKEY HERE.
ADDIS. ADDIS HERE. BAINES. BRIAN
BRIAN. HERE. CERVANTES DAVIES.
DAVIES. HERE. DIXON. DIXON HERE.
GABRIEL. GIBSON HANEY. JONES.
SAWYER IS ABSENT. LOW, LOW IS
HERE. MCKINLEY. PACHECO PACHECO
IS HERE. PAPPIN PATTERSON.
PATTERSON HERE. RAMOS SORIA TO
HEAR. VALENCIA WALLACE. WALLACE.
HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK
YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AND
WE, MEMBERS, WE JUST HEARD,
SENATOR DODD'S BILL. SO IF
ANYBODY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A
MOTION BY, ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LACKEY. A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER PATTERSON, MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN YOU, CALL THE
ROLL, PLEASE? SB 495 DODD. THE
MOTION IS Dð PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. RUBIO Ã RUBIO.
AYE. LACKEY. AYE. LACKEY. AYE.
ADDIS ADDIS, AYE. BAINES. BRIAN
CERVANTES. DAVIES DAVIES. AYE.
DIXON DIXON. AYE. GABRIEL.
GIBSON HANEY. LOW. LOW. AYE.
MCKINLEY PACHECO. PACHECO. AYE.
PAPPIN. PATTERSON PATTERSON.
AYE. RAMOS. SORIA TO T I.
VALENCIA WALLACE. OKAY, WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN FOR, ADDED,
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. SENATOR
WIENER.
WELCOME, SENATOR WIENER.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR, IF THIS BILL LOOKS
FAMILIAR, IT'S BECAUSE THIS BILL
IN THIS APPROXIMATE FORM, HAS
PASSED OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE
TWICE. SO HOPEFULLY THE THIRD
TIME IS A CHARM. THE FIRST TIME
IT GOT, HELD IN APPROPRIATIONS,
THE SECOND TIME IT GOT, PRETTY,
DRAMATICALLY NARROWED IN
APPROPRIATIONS. SO WE'RE HOPING
THAT, THIS TIME WE CAN PASS IT
IN, IN A GOOD FORM, SO THANK
YOU. SB 969, IS A LOCAL CONTROL
BILL, THAT WILL AUTHORIZE, BUT
NOT REQUIRE, CITIES TO CREATE
DESIGNATED OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT
ZONES, WHERE LOCAL BRICK AND
MORTAR, MOM AND POP RESTAURANTS
AND BARS, CAN SELL TAKEOUT
ALCOHOL BEVERAGES WITHIN THAT
ZONE AT STREET FESTIVALS AND
OTHER OUTDOOR FOR, EVENTS, RIGHT
NOW, IN OTHER THAN IN SAN
FRANCISCO, BECAUSE LAST YEAR'S
BILL WAS LIMITED ONLY TO SAN
FRANCISCO, CITIES CAN HAVE
STREET FESTIVALS AND BRING IN
OUT OUTSIDE VENDORS, PERHAPS
FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, TO COME
IN AND SELL, BUT THE RESTAURANTS
AND BARS THERE CANNOT. AND YOU
CAN IMAGINE HOW DEEPLY
FRUSTRATING THAT IS WHEN YOUR
AREA WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR
BUSINESS IS A STREET FESTIVAL
AND OTHERS CAN COME IN AND SELL,
BUT YOU CAN'T. THIS WILL ALLOW
THAT, THE BILL, BY ALLOWING THE
CREATION OF THESE ENTERTAINMENT
ZONES, WHICH COULD BE FOR ONE
DAY OR ONE DAY, ONE DESIGNATED
DAY A WEEK OR EVERY WEEKEND, OR
ONE DAY A MONTH OR EVERY DAY,
DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CITY
COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WILL ALLOW
CITIES, TO CREATE VIBRANCY IN
AREAS WHERE THEY WANT TO DO
THAT. IT MIGHT BE IN A DOWNTOWN
AREA, IT MIGHT BE IN ANOTHER,
AREA. IT BRINGS PEOPLE OUTSIDE.
IT JUST CREATES VIBRANCY. AND
IT'S A VERY POWERFUL, THING, WE
HAVE A BROAD COALITION OF FOLKS
FROM UP AND DOWN THE STATE. A
LOT OF CITIES WANT THE
FLEXIBILITY, TO BE ABLE TO DO
THIS, AND I THINK THAT NOW IS
THE TIME TO EMPOWER OUR CITIES
TO TAKE THIS STEP IN WHATEVER
FORM THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE
LOCALLY. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IS ZANE BARNES FROM THE
CITY OF SAN JOSE, WHICH IS ONE
OF OUR SPONSORS, I'M BOB SIMPSON
, A BOARD MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA NIGHTLIFE
ASSOCIATION, AND THE OWNER AND
OPERATOR OF NIGHTLIFE
ESTABLISHMENTS HERE IN
SACRAMENTO. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
ZANE BARNES. I'M THE CHIEF
INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS
OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN
JOSE, WHICH WHO IS A PROUD
CO-SPONSOR OF SB 969. AS WE
EMERGE FROM THE PANDEMIC, BARS,
RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT
VENUES ARE PLAYING AN OUTSIZED
ROLE IN BRINGING PEOPLE INTO
CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
EVENTS LIKE SAN JOSE JAZZ,
SUMMERFEST AND MUSIC IN THE PARK
ALONGSIDE OUR NIGHTLIFE HUBS
LIKE THE SOFA DISTRICT AND SAN
PEDRO SQUARE, ARE BRINGING LIFE
BACK TO URBAN CENTERS. HOWEVER,
OUR HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES
BUSINESSES FACE IMMENSE
CHALLENGES IN SAN JOSE, FOOD AND
BEVERAGE SALES IN OUR DOWNTOWN
REMAIN 13% BELOW PRE-PANDEMIC
NUMBERS WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR
INFLATION. THAT'S JUST ONE
REASON WHY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT
SB 969 ALLOWING CITIES TO
DESIGNATE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT
ZONES WHERE BRICK AND MORTAR
ESTABLISHMENTS CAN SELL
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES INTO A
DEFINED AREA FOR PUBLIC
CONSUMPTION, GIVES THESE
BUSINESSES AND THEIR BUSINESS
DISTRICTS A FIGHTING CHANCE.
AFTER YEARS OF PANDEMIC
STRUGGLES. THIS BILL REMOVES
BARRIERS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY
PREVENTED THESE ESTABLISHMENTS
FROM FULLY PARTICIPATING IN
NEARBY OUTDOOR SPECIAL EVENTS
AND ENABLES NOVEL ACTIVATIONS
INDEPENDENT OF EXISTING EVENTS.
CURRENTLY, THESE TYPES OF
OUTDOOR EVENTS MUST UTILIZE A
THIRD PARTY VENDOR FOR ALCOHOL
SALES, DIRECTLY COMPETING WITH
THE NEARBY BUSINESSES BY
EMPOWERING BRICK AND MORTAR
SHOPS TO SERVE THEIR
COMMUNITIES. SB 969 OPENS UP NEW
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE
BUSINESSES TO GENERATE REVENUE
AND ATTRACT FOOT TRAFFIC. THIS
COULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE
WAY SAN JOSE ENGAGES IN PUBLIC
EVENTS SUCH AS THE UPCOMING
SUPER BOWL 60, COPA AMERICA AND
THE WORLD CUP. THIS NEW MODEL
WILL ENSURE THAT VISITOR
SPENDING STAYS IN THE LOCAL
ECONOMY. FURTHERMORE THE
FLEXIBILITY PROVIDED BY SB 969
ALLOWS CITIES TO TAILOR HOW
THEIR ENTERTAINMENT ZONES
OPERATE TO THEIR UNIQUE NEEDS.
THIS LEGISLATION BUILDS AND
SAFEGUARDS AND CHECKPOINTS TO
ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY CONCERNS
ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. WE WILL
WORK WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT,
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, MAYOR
AND CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT
THE IMPLEMENTATION IS A GOOD FIT
FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IN SUMMARY,
SB 969 REPRESENTS A PROACTIVE
AND INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO
SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES,
REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN AREAS, AND
CREATING ENGAGING EXPERIENCES
FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE ON SB 969.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM
CHAIR. MEMBERS MY NAME IS BOB
SIMPSON. I'VE OWNED AND OPERATED
RESTAURANT BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS
FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS AND I HAVE
FOUR VENUES CURRENTLY IN
DOWNTOWN SACRAMENTO. I'M ALSO A
BOARD MEMBER OF CAL NIGHTS. IT'S
A STATEWIDE ADVOCACY GROUP FOR
THE SOCIAL ECONOMY. WE STRONGLY
BELIEVE SB 969 WILL HELP BOOST
AREAS STRUGGLING IN OUR
STATEWIDE DOWNTOWNS THAT HAVE
LOST BUSINESS SINCE THE PANDEMIC
. OUR DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY
IMPACTED AS WELL DUE TO REMOTE
WORK. THE 5:00 BUSINESS CROWD
THAT USED TO PACK MY BARS ARE NO
LONGER IN OUR DOWNTOWNS. SB 969
WILL ALLOW US TO CREATE LARGER
ACTIVATIONS BY PARTNERING WITH
NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES, THROWING
BLOCK PARTIES, CONCERTS, CRAFT
FAIRS, PUTTING ON LARGE EVENTS
THAT ARE DOWNTOWNS WILL WILL
REALLY BENEFIT FROM. I BELIEVE
CITIES WILL SEE THE FINANCIAL
BENEFIT AND PROMOTIONAL BENEFIT
BY PARTICIPATING WITH THE
BUSINESSES, AS THEY WILL ALSO
SEE INCREASED EMPLOYMENT AND
TAXATION BASE. AND OF COURSE,
OPERATORS ARE STILL GOING TO BE
REGULATED BY THE CITIES AND BY
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL. THIS
WILL BE A GREAT BILL FOR THE
SOCIAL ECONOMY. PLEASE PASS SB
969. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN SUPPORT
? AMELIA ZAMANI WITH THE
CALIFORNIA TRAVEL ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR. KAREN LANG, ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF
SAN FRANCISCO, A PROUD SPONSOR
OF THE BILL AND THE CITY OF
SANTA MONICA IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. STEPHANIE,
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MERCED
AND CITY OF SANTA ROSA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MATT SUTTON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. HI THERE. MCKINLEY
THOMPSON MORLEY, ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, JEFF NEILL
REPRESENTING THE COUNTY OF YOLO.
ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.
BRINGING IT BACK, WE, MADE
WITNESSES IN THE OPPOSITION.
PLEASE STEP FORWARD. MADAM
CHAIR, MEMBERS FRED JONES, ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
ON ALCOHOL PROBLEMS WITH HIS,
WHICH IS LED BY CLERGY WHO DEAL
WITH ALCOHOLISM AMONG THEIR
CONGREGANTS ON A DAILY BASIS.
TWO PRIMARY CONCERNS WITH THIS
BILL. ONE IS BOURBON STREET IN
NEW ORLEANS, IS NOT A ONE OFF
EVENT. IT'S AN ALL YEAR PARTY
ZONE. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL WE
ARE AFRAID, WILL BE CREATED
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA FARMERS
MARKETS. ONE TIME EVENTS. THAT'S
ONE THING. DESIGNATED AREA
LIMITED DATES. THIS ALLOWS 365
DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR. BOURBON
STREET AREAS IN CITIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. AS MY SECOND POINT,
THIS BODY LIMITED THIS BILL LAST
YEAR. NOT A DECADE AGO, THE
ASSEMBLY LIMITED THE AUTHORS
BILL. LAST YEAR TO JUST SAN
FRANCISCO. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN
IMPLEMENTED THIS YET. IT'S A
PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO BE A
PILOT. LET THAT PLAY OUT. THEY
HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED IT YET. SEE
HOW IT HAPPENS AND IMPACT SAN
FRANCISCO AND THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITIES. BEFORE YOU OPEN
THIS UP STATEWIDE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS RAUL VERDUGO. I
REPRESENT THE CALIFORNIA ALCOHOL
POLICY ALLIANCE, COPPA,
REPRESENTING OVER 50
ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE,
AS CAPITAL, WE ARE OPPOSED TO
SENATE BILL 969 BECAUSE IT WILL
INCREASE THE ACCESS AND
CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL UNDER
CONDITIONS THAT COMPROMISE THE
PUBLIC'S INTEREST IN COMMUNITY
HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT ZONES THAT
PROMOTE PUBLIC INTOXICATION
UNDERMINE ANY EFFORT, ANY LOCAL
EFFORT TO DECREASE ALCOHOL
RELATED HEALTH HARMS, INCLUDING
AN INCREASE IN THE POTENTIAL FOR
YOUTH TO ACCESS ALCOHOL AND
LIKELINESS OF OVER CONSUMPTION,
INCLUDING ALCOHOL POISONINGS,
ALCOHOL RELATED DEATHS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE RISEN
BY 70% SINCE 2015. THIS TYPE OF
LEGISLATION ONLY ALLOWS BUSINESS
BUSINESSES OF A LIMITED KIND TO
SUCCEED, PLACING UNMITIGATED
FINANCIAL AND SOCIAL STRAINS ON
ANY COUNTY OR EXCUSE ME,
MUNICIPALITY THAT CANNOT PROVIDE
ADEQUATE PROTECTION FOR THEIR
COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING ADEQUATE
LAW ENFORCEMENT. PREVAILING DATA
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH
CAROLINA SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH
INDICATE THAT THESE ZONES ARE
LIKELY TO OPERATE IN COUNTIES
WHERE WITH MORE, BIPOC RESIDENTS
, LIVE. AND CAN YOU CAN YOU WRAP
IT UP, PLEASE? OH, YES. AND, FOR
THOSE REASONS, WE ASK THAT THE
COMMITTEE NOT SUPPORT SB 969.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH
TO WHICH WISH TO COME UP IN
OPPOSITION, YES. THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS CARSON BENNETT
FREDERICKS. AND ON BEHALF OF
ALCOHOL JUSTICE, WE ARE IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC?
COME ON. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE,
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING IT BACK
UP TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY OF THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ASSEMBLY
MEMBER, BRIAN? YEAH. NO, IT WAS
INTERESTING. I THINK ONE OF THE
OPPOSITION WITNESSES JUST SAID
THAT THESE ARE MORE LIKELY TO
HAPPEN IN BIPOC AREAS AND THAT
THERE ARE NOT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT WAS A VERY
INTERESTING COMMENT. I WAS
DOWNTOWN IN LOS ANGELES LAST
WEEK WITH THE SELECT COMMITTEE
ON DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, WITH
CHAIRMAN, HANEY FROM SAN
FRANCISCO. AND WHAT WE SAW FROM
THE CENTRAL CITIES ASSOCIATION
AND OTHERS IS THAT THESE KIND OF
ACTIVATIONS ARE ACTUALLY WHAT WE
NEED TO REVITALIZE OUR DOWNTOWN
CITY CENTERS THAT WERE DECIMATED
DURING COVID AND HAVEN'T SEEN
THE FOOT TRAFFIC THAT THEY SAW
PREVIOUSLY THAT ALLOWED FOR
BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES TO
THRIVE. THEY ALSO TOLD US THAT
THAT INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC IS
IN ITSELF ONE OF THE SAFETY
MECHANISMS FOR DOWNTOWN AREAS.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS A
RESPONSIVE EFFORT, BY THE
SENATOR. AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I HAVE A
MOTION BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BRIAN,
A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER,
WALLACE, JUST AS A COMMENT, I
WANTED TO FIRST THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR ALWAYS WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE, BUT I WANTED TO
CLARIFY THAT THE BILL WAS, WAS,
NARROWED IN APPROPRIATION AS
THIS BILL WAS PASSED IN ITS FULL
FORM, FROM, GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION. SO I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON
THAT. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR AND OBVIOUSLY THE
COMMITTEE FOR ALWAYS WORKING,
WITH WITH US AND, ONE OF THE,
THE THINGS THAT I CAN ADMIRE OF
YOU, SENATOR, IS THAT WE CAN
ALWAYS HAVE A CONVERSATION AND
WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. AND
YOU'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO MAKE
CONCESSIONS SO THAT WE GET TO A
PLACE WHERE, WHERE WE CAN ALL
AGREE. I APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BRIAN'S COMMENTS ON THAT,
BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WE'RE SEEING
IT HERE IN SACRAMENTO. WHERE
WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE FOOT
TRAFFIC THAT WILL REVITALIZE THE
COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THAT. AND AGAIN, I JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY THE COMMENTS
ABOUT WHERE THE BILL WAS WAS,
WAS, NARROWED. AND IT WAS AN
APPROPRIATIONS NOT AS THIS
COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR THAT,
AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO CLOSE.
YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COLLEAGUES AND I AGREE WITH,
SOME MEMBER BRIAN, THIS IS, IT'S
A VERY POWERFUL TOOL WE'RE
SEEING IN SAN FRANCISCO NOW, ANY
TIME WE, CREATE NEW OUTDOOR
EVENTS, PEOPLE LOVE IT. AND IT
BRINGS PEOPLE, DOWNTOWN. AND,
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INTEGRATE
THAT WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES,
TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES, IN
ADDITION TO LETTING PEOPLE COME
TOGETHER, IN A JOYOUS WAY, WITH
COMMUNITY, IS REALLY POWERFUL.
AND SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY. CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL
SB 969 BY SENATOR WIENER. THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
RUBIO. AYE. RUBIO. AYE. LACKEY
AYE. LACKEY. AYE. ADDIS. ADDIS.
AYE. BAINES BRIAN. BRIAN. AYE.
CERVANTES DAVIES. DAVIES. AYE.
DIXON DIXON. AYE. GABRIEL.
GIBSON HANEY. LOWE. LOWE AYE.
MCKENNA. PACHECO. PACHECO AYE.
PAPPIN. PATTERSON. PATTERSON
AYE. RAMOS. SORIA. TO T I.
VALENCIA VALENCIA. YES. WALLACE.
WALLACE AYE, THAT, BILL HAS THE
SUFFICIENT VOTES, BUT WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN FOR ADDED
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND WHILE
WE'RE AT IT, CAN WE TAKE UP THE
CONSENT CALENDAR BEFORE,
ASSEMBLY MEMBER VALENCIA PICKS
UP THE BILL? THE FOLLOWING BILLS
ARE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME MOTION,
WHICH IS Dð. PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. RECOMMEND
CONSENT FILE ITEM TWO SB 958
DODD FILE ITEM FOUR SB 978
SEYARTO FILE ITEM FIVE SB 1214
NGUYEN FILE ITEM SIX SB 1246
LIMÓN FILE ITEM SEVEN SB 1336
ARCHULETA FILE ITEM TEN SB 1523
SENATE GEO. ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR, GO AHEAD. RUBIO.
RUBIO. AYE. LACKEY AYE. LACKEY.
AYE. ADDIS ADDIS. AYE. BAINES.
BRIAN BRIAN. AYE. CERVANTES
DAVIES. DAVIES. AYE. DIXON.
DIXON THÀNH. AYE. GABRIEL.
GIBSON. HANEY LOWE. LOWE. AYE.
MCKENNA. PACHECO PACHECO. AYE.
PAPPIN. PATTERSON PATTERSON.
AYE. RAMOS SORIA. TO TO. AYE.
VALENCIA. VALENCIA YES. WALLACE.
WALLACE. AYE THANK YOU. THE
CONSENT CALENDAR HAS ENOUGH
VOTES. WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL
OPEN, FOR ADDING MEMBERS. WE
HAVE A ROLL ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PAPINE. PAPINE. AYE BAYNES. ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. BAYNES.
AYE THANK YOU, SENATOR
BRADFORD'S NOT HERE YET, SO
WE'LL TAKE UP ASSEMBLY MEMBER
VALENCIA ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
DURAZZO.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. YOU MAY BEGIN.
THANK YOU. WHEN I STARTED THIS,
MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS, I AM
PRESENTING SB 1488 ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR DURAZZO FOR SB 1488.
DIRECTS CALTRANS TO SUPPORT
ARENA ADVERTISING DISPLAYS IN
THEIR CURRENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH
THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
ADMINISTRATION. THIS BILL ALSO
REDUCES THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR A
MARKETING CONTRACT FROM ONE YEAR
TO 120 DAYS, WHICH MORE
ACCURATELY REFLECTS OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES. THIS
PROVIDES STADIUMS AND ARENAS
REVENUE STREAMS THAT DO NOT RELY
ON PUBLIC FUNDING. STADIUMS
CREATE THOUSANDS OF LOCAL JOBS,
HIGH PAID CONSTRUCTION, AND ALSO
GENERATE STATE AND LOCAL TAXES.
WITH ME TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY
TODAY IS ANGIE MINETTI, A
SPONSOR OF THE BILL? GOOD
AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. ANGIE MINETTI
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DODGERS
AND THE LÀ FOOTBALL CLUB IN
SUPPORT OF SB 1488, OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING ALLOWS US TO
DIVERSIFY OUR REVENUE STREAMS
AND IT PROVIDES LESS RELIANCE ON
PUBLIC SUBSIDIES, SENATOR
DURAZZO AND, YOU KNOW, ALL
STAKEHOLDERS HAVE COME TO AN
AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
CLARIFYING THE FEDERAL, STATE
AGREEMENT DISCUSSIONS. AND SO WE
COMMIT TO DOING THAT AS WELL AND
PARTICIPATING IN THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. AND WE APPRECIATE
THE WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS
DONE, THE THOROUGH ANALYSIS BY
THE COMMITTEE STAFF, AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE,
VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
NOPE. SEEING NONE, MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC, MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IN SUPPORT, PLEASE COME
FORWARD. THANK YOU. ANY, MEMBERS
IN ANY, WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AUDREY
RITECHECK FROM CRUZ STRATEGIES
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING
ASSOCIATION, WE REPRESENT 90% OF
ALL OF THE BILLBOARDS IN
CALIFORNIA. WE'RE HERE TODAY
WITH AN OPPOSED POSITION ON SB
1488. BUT WE REALLY WANT TO
EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO
SENATOR DURAZO AND THE SPONSORS
FOR CONTINUING TO WORK WITH US.
WE HAVE TWO FUNDAMENTAL CONCERNS
AND PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, WHICH
ARE ONE IS CHANGING THE TIMELINE
FOR THE SPONSORSHIP MARKETING
AGREEMENT FROM 120 DAYS TO NINE
MONTHS, AS CONTEXT, THE ARENA
EXEMPTIONS ALLOW FOR LIMITED OFF
SITE ADVERTISING FOR
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE ARENA. HAS
WITH COMPANIES WHO HAVE A LONGER
TERM ADVERTISING AGREEMENT WITH
THE STADIUM. SO WE JUST WANT TO
MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE
ARENA. EXEMPTIONS BY ENSURING
THAT THERE'S A MEANINGFUL
TIMELINE FOR THE ADVERTISING,
MARKETING AGREEMENT. THE SECOND
CONCERN WE HAVE IS WITH THE
DIRECTIVE TO CALTRANS TO
ADVOCATE FOR AN ARENA EXEMPTION
IN THEIR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
FHWA. WE DO BELIEVE THAT'S AN
ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT
FURTHER, AND WE HAVE SOME
SUGGESTIONS ON LANGUAGE
CLARIFICATION THAT WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK ON, SO WITH ME TODAY IS
RON BEALS, WHO'S OUR GENERAL
COUNSEL FOR THE ASSOCIATION, IN
CASE THERE'S ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? NO.
THANK YOU, ANY MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
DENNIS LOPER, ON BEHALF OF BEALL
OUTDOOR AND GENERAL OUTDOOR. WE
REMAIN IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC IN OPPOSITION? OKAY,
SEEING NONE. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS?
CONCERNS, COMMENTS? NO, I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, TO YOUR
POINT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR,
FOR STATING YOUR YOUR YOUR
REASONS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT
THE 120 DAYS WAS A COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT FROM 2022, AND I WANT
TO THANK SENATOR DURAZO FOR
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND
WORKING I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN
WORKING WITH YOU AS WELL ON,
COMING TO AN AGREEMENT, AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. AND I KNOW THAT I
SPOKE TO SENATOR DURAZO
DIRECTLY, AND, SHE'S OPEN TO THE
CONVERSATIONS. AND I KNOW
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, VALENCIA CAN
TAKE THAT MESSAGE BACK TO HER.
BUT AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS WERE IN 2022 ON THE
120 DAYS, AND SHE ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS AT THAT POINT, BUT
I'M HOPEFUL THAT WITH CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS, WE CAN GET TO A
POINT WHERE WE CAN ALL AT LEAST
AGREE ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU, I NEED A MOTION IN A
SECOND. OKAY. MOVE, BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER, PACHECO. SECOND BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. BRIAN, MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL
? SB 1488. SO THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. RUBIO. I RUBIO I
LAKI LAKI NOT VOTING. ADDIS.
ADDIS I BAINES. BAINES I BRIAN.
BRIAN I CERVANTES. DAVIES.
DAVIES. I. DIXON DIXON. NOT
VOTING. GABRIEL. GIBSON GIBSON.
I HANEY. LOW LOW I MCKINLEY.
PACHECO PACHECO I. PAPIN. PAPIN
I. PATTERSON PATTERSON. I RAMOS.
SORIA. TO TOR. NOT VOTING.
VALENCIA VALENCIA. YES. WALLACE.
WALLACE NO. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
11 VOTES. WE'RE STILL, SHORT,
AND WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN
FOR, ADDING MEMBERS AT. THANK
YOU. I SEE SENATOR BRADFORD.
WELCOME.
THANK YOU, SENATOR BRADFORD, YOU
MAY BEGIN. MICROPHONE.
MICROPHONE. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. I'M HERE TO PRESENT 1371.
AND IT'S JUST A WAY OF PROVIDING
GREATER CONVENIENCE AND SECURITY
AT ALCOHOL PURCHASES BY ALLOWING
BIOMETRIC IDENTITY SYSTEMS AS A
METHOD TO VERIFY A CUSTOMER'S
AGE. EXISTING LAW PROVIDES
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE RETAIL
LICENSEES WITH THE AFFIRMATIVE
DEFENSE AND A PROCEEDING
INVOLVING THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES. THIS OFFENSE IS
ALLOWED IF THE LICENSEE CAN
PROVE THAT THEY REQUESTED AND
WERE SHOWN A GOVERNMENT ID
ISSUED ID, I SHOULD SAY SOME
LICENSEES, ESPECIALLY LARGE
VENUES LIKE STADIUMS, HAVE HAVE
BEGUN THE USE OF ADDITIONAL
BIOMETRIC METHODS SUCH AS
FINGERPRINTS AND FACIAL
RECOGNITION, TO AFFIRM A
PURCHASER'S AGE. THIS TECHNOLOGY
IS ACCURATE, RELIABLE,
CONVENIENT FOR BOTH THE RETAILER
AND THE PURCHASER, SO, IT WILL
JUST INCLUDE BIOMETRIC SYSTEMS
FOR ELIGIBLE AFFIRMATIVE
DEFENSE. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE. AND HERE IN
SUPPORT IS JOE LANG, TO ANSWER
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. WELCOME, MADAM
CHAIR. MEMBERS, JUST REAL
QUICKLY, APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMITTEE STAFF'S GOOD WORK ON
THE ANALYSIS. WHEN THE
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE STATUTES
WERE CREATED 30 YEARS AGO, THIS
TECHNOLOGY DIDN'T EXIST. SO WE
BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL HELP TO
IMPROVE COMPLIANCE WITH AGE
VERIFICATION FOR SALES. AND WE
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN
SUPPORT. YOU MAY COME UP OKAY.
SEEING NONE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU TO THE
CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE, CARSON FREDERICKS,
ALCOHOL JUSTICE, I JUST WANTED
TO FLAG THAT WE STILL HAVE
CONCERNS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS
ACTUALLY NOT FOOLPROOF, NOT
CONSISTENT. AND REAL. THE REAL
ISSUE HERE FOR AN AFFIRMATIVE
DEFENSE IS THAT IT IS A WHOLE
BUNCH OF INFORMATION AND
VERIFICATION. THAT IS KEPT IN A
BLACK BOX BY THE PERSON WHO
WOULD BE UP BEFORE THE JUDGE,
THE STATE DOES NOT REALLY HAVE A
WAY TO AUDIT OR VERIFY OR, OR,
OR ANALYZE THE ALGORITHMS THAT
THIS WOULD BE USING. AND FOR
THAT REASON, I THINK WE SHOULD
BE A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS BEFORE
WE UNLEASH IT. IT KIND OF FEELS
TO US A LOT LIKE A SOLUTION IN
SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. AND THEN
JUST AS ONE LAST NOTE, SPEED IN
SERVING PEOPLE, ALCOHOL ACTUALLY
DOES REDUCE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ENGAGE IN SAFE SERVICE PRACTICE.
SO I ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A
THERE IS A POSITIVE PUBLIC
HEALTH BENEFIT TO PAUSING AND
LOOKING AT THE AT THE ID AND
INTERACTING WITH THE WITH THE
CUSTOMER. THAT WOULD BE LOST IF
THIS IS PUT INTO PRACTICE. SO WE
SUGGEST YOU VOTE NO. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME UP AND
OPPOSE? OKAY. SEEING NONE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BANES I JUST WANTED TO
ASK SO WHEN I READ THE BILL,
WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE
WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU
KNOW, VERIFICATION. BUT WE ALSO
NEED TO KNOW, LIKE WHAT IS IT
THAT'S GOING TO BE USED IN THIS
BIOMETRICS, THIS DATA TO ANALYZE
AND VERIFY THE AGE? MADAM CHAIR,
ASSEMBLYMAN VEINS, THE ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION IN A SIMPLE WAY
RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY USES A
GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID, AND WE
KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THOSE ARE
FRAUDULENT. AND WHAT THIS
TECHNOLOGY WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO
DO IS THROUGH EITHER RETINAL
SCANS OR FACIAL RECOGNITION,
AUTHENTICATE THE ID THAT IS
GIVEN SO THAT YOU HAVE AN EXTRA
LAYER OF COMPLIANCE ON TOP OF
THE GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID. SO
IT'S NOT GETTING RID OF THE
GOVERNMENT ISSUE ID OKAY, SO
WE'LL HAVE GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID
IN ADDITION TO THIS. OKAY. THE
BILL ACTUALLY REQUIRES IT
PERFECT. THEN I THAT THAT THAT
HELPS ME ALSO, YOU KNOW JUST TO
ADD MY PERSONAL STORY TO THAT,
WHEN, WHEN, BASED RECOGNITION
FIRST CAME OUT ON THE I REMEMBER
MY COUSIN GOT THAT FIRST PHONE.
I REMEMBER FORGET WHICH PHONE
FIRST HAD IT AND I LIKE TOOK HIS
PHONE. I'M LIKE, LET'S SEE IF
IT'LL DETECT ME. AND IT BROKE
THROUGH THE PHONE. MY COUSIN HAS
A BEARD AND A TURBAN, SO I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN,
TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING AND
THAT'S GREAT. BUT AT THE SAME
TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE HOLDING EVERYTHING
ACCOUNTABLE IN INNOVATION AND
THAT WE DON'T MAKE MORE
LOOPHOLES. I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS BILL, BUT I, YOU KNOW, DO
WANT TO SEE MORE AND MORE WORK
ON INNOVATION IN SECURITY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE?
ASSEMBLY MEMBER VALENCIA? THANK
YOU, TIMELY BILL, I DEFINITELY
AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT
THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING IN. AND
THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FOLLOWING
LEGISLATION BEHIND IT. JUST ONE
CONCERN. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT
YOU COULD ADDRESS REGARDING THE
DATA THAT MAY BE COLLECTED OR
HOW THAT COULD BE USED BY THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ACTUALLY
SCANNING THE ID? UNDER THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL? WELL,
THE TECHNOLOGY PROVIDER IS
REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE DATA
FOR PURPOSES OF ABC JURISDICTION
AND COMPLIANCE. SO WE ARE USING
THE TECHNOLOGY IN THIS CASE
INTUIT DOME, THE NEW DOME FOR
THE CLIPPERS, WE HAVE TO IF WE
WERE EVER CALLED IN BECAUSE OF A
POTENTIAL SALE TO A MINOR, WE
WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY
WAS USED, THAT IT IN FACT
AUTHENTICATED THE GOVERNMENT
ISSUED ID. AND THE GOOD THING
PARTLY ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY
THESE DAYS IS THAT WITH THE
HOLOGRAM PICTURES AND PART OF
THE GOVERNMENT ID, THE THAT
AUTHENTICATION IS GETTING CLOSER
AND CLOSER TO FOOLPROOF.
PROBABLY NOT 100. BUT I THINK IN
CONVERSATION WITH THE ABC, OUR
HOPE IS THAT THIS WOULD BRING
99% COMPLIANCE. SO THANK YOU FOR
THAT. AND WOULD THE ENTITY THAT
IS COLLECTING THAT DATA IN THE
CASE THAT IT IS REQUESTED BY THE
ABC OR WHOEVER, WOULD THEY HAVE
THE ABILITY TO THEN USE THAT
DATA OR INFORMATION IN ANY OTHER
WAY OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY
OUTLINED? IN FACT, THE
AFFIRMATIVE OFFENSE THAT WE'RE
THAT'S AMENDED BY THE BILL IS
ONLY FOR THAT PURPOSE. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS? OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER PAPIN, A
SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
DAVIES, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? SB 1371
BRADFORD. THE MOTION IS DUE.
PASS. RUBIO. AYE. RUBIO. AYE.
LACKEY. AYE LACKEY. AYE. ADDIS.
ADDIS. AYE. BAYNES BAYNES. AYE.
BRIAN. BRIAN. AYE. CERVANTES
CERVANTES. AYE. DAVIES. DAVIES.
AYE DIXON. DIXON. AYE. GABRIEL.
GABRIEL AYE. GIBSON GIBSON. AYE.
HANEY LOW. LOW. AYE. MACKINAW
MACKINAW. AYE. PACHECO. PACHECO.
AYE PAPINE. PAPINE. AYE.
PATTERSON. PATTERSON AYE. RAMOS.
SORIA. TO TO. AYE. VALENCIA.
VALENCIA. YES. WALLACE WALLACE.
AYE THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE
VOTES, TO PASS THE BILL, AND
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ANY ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. AND WE
ARE DONE, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN
YOU CALL THE ROLL FOR THOSE
ABSENT MEMBERS? THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR, CERVANTES.
CERVANTES. AYE GABRIEL. GABRIEL.
AYE. GIBSON GIBSON. AYE. HANEY
JONES-SAWYER IS ABSENT.
APOLOGIES. MCKENNA ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. MCKENNA. AYE.
RAMOS SORIA. CONSENT CALENDARS.
OUT FILE ITEM ONE. SB 495. DODD
OPENING THE ROLL. BAINES.
BAINES. AYE BRIAN. CERVANTES
CERVANTES. NOT VOTING. GABRIEL
GABRIEL. AYE. GIBSON FILE ITEM
ONE SB 495. DODD GIBSON. AYE.
HANEY MCKENNA. NO, WE'RE NOT
VOTING. NO. MCKENNA NO. PAPPIN
HAPPEN. AYE RAMOS. SORIA
VALENCIA. VALENCIA. YES. WALLACE
WALLACE. AYE REITERATING THAT
TAUS AND AYE. THAT MEASURE HAS
THE VOTES, AND WE ARE MOVING ON
TO FILE ITEM THREE, SB 969 BY
SENATOR WIENER. OPENING THE ROLL
FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER BANES.
BAINES. NÓ CERVANTES. CERVANTES.
AYE GABRIEL. GABRIEL. AYE.
GIBSON GIBSON. AYE. HANEY
MCKENNA. MCKENNA. AYE. PAPPIN
PAPPIN. AYE. RAMOS SORIA. THAT
MEASURE HAS THE VOTES. MOVING ON
TO FILE ITEM EIGHT. SB 1371.
BRADFORD. OPENING THE ROLL FOR
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY RAMOS.
SORIA THAT MEASURE HAS THE VOTES
TO PASS. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NINE SB 1488. DURAZZO. OPENING
THE ROLL FOR CERVANTES.
CERVANTES AYE. GABRIEL. GABRIEL.
AYE HANEY. MCKENNA MCKENNA. AYE.
RAMOS SORIA. SORIA. AYE. THANK
YOU. AYE YES. OPEN THE ROLL FOR
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. SORIA. YES.
THANK YOU. OPENING THE ROLL FOR
ASSEMBLY MEMBER SORIA ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. SORIA. AYE SB
495 BY SENATOR DODD. SORIA.
SORIA AYE. SB 969 BY SENATOR
WIENER SORIA. SORIA AYE. SB 1371
SENATOR BRADFORD SORIA. SORIA
AYE. AYE. HAVE YOU ON ALL THE
MEASURES? THANK YOU, WE ARE
ADJOURNED. OKAY. WE'LL GIVE FIVE
MINUTES FOR ANY, ABSENT MEMBERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING.
YES. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY AND RAMOS,
ARE ON THEIR WAY AS SOON AS
THEY'RE DONE. AND SO WE'LL LEAVE
THE ROLL OPEN FOR THEM.
TO THANK YOU. WE ARE ADJOURNED,
AT 2:32 P.M. THANK.