GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WELCOME
TO THE JUNE 25TH BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS. HEARING THE LAST
SONG I HEARD ON THE RADIO WAS
GOOD DAY BY BRETT ELDREDGE. IT
CALMED ME DOWN. I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO
INTERNALIZE THAT FOR AS LONG AS
THEY CAN. TODAY I GIVE US HALF
AN HOUR. WE HAVE 16 BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA, INCLUDING THE
FOLLOWING THREE BILLS ON CONSENT
SB 1233 BY SENATOR WILK, SB 1526
BY THE COMMITTEE ON SENATE
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS
DUE PASS AS AMENDED, AND SB 1478
BY SENATOR NGUYEN. IF ANYONE IS
HERE TODAY FOR SB 1453 BY
SENATOR ASHBY, PLEASE NOTE THAT
BILL WAS REMOVED FROM TODAY'S
AGENDA AND WILL BE HEARD IN A
HEARING NEXT TUESDAY. THAT'S THE
SUNSET BILL FOR THE CALIFORNIA
DENTAL BOARD FOR EACH MEASURE
BEING PRESENTED TODAY, WE WILL
BE ALLOWING PRIMARY WITNESSES
HERE IN THE ROOM TODAY TO SPEAK
FOR UP TO TWO MINUTES EACH, WITH
UP TO TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES PER
SIDE. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
WILL BE LIMITED TO NAME POSITION
ON THE BILL AND THE ORGANIZATION
THEY REPRESENT, IF ANY. FOR
THOSE WISHING TO PROVIDE FURTHER
COMMENTS, WE ARE ACCEPTING
WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH THE
POSITION LETTER PORTAL ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE AND WITH
THAT, WE'LL BEGIN TODAY'S
HEARING. I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS
ARE RUNNING AROUND, I HAVE
PERMISSION FROM THE REPUBLICANS
TO START WITHOUT THEM SINCE THEY
ARE NOT HERE. SENATOR LEMON,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH SB
639? IT IS A GOOD DAY TO START
WITH, SENATOR LEMON. THEN FOLLOW
IT WITH GENERAL ROTH. WELL,
WE'RE DOING WELL. GREAT TO SEE
YOU, CHAIR. AND MEMBERS, I FIRST
WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH OUR
OFFICE AND WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINED IN THE
ANALYSIS. THIS BILL ADDS
ALZHEIMER'S AND DEMENTIA
TRAINING AS AN OPTION TO THE
EXISTING CONTINUING EDUCATION
REQUIREMENT FOR PHYSICIANS WHO
HAVE A PATIENT POPULATION, OF
WHICH OVER 25% ARE 65 YEARS OR
OLDER AND APPLIES THE SAME
REQUIREMENT TO PHYSICIAN
ASSISTANTS AND NURSE
PRACTITIONERS. SB 639 WILL
ENSURE THAT HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS ARE EQUIPPED FOR
DEMENTIA DETECTION AND DIAGNOSIS
STATEWIDE. WITH ME TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL, I HAVE
JEZEBEL GALVAN AND ERIC DOWDY ON
BEHALF OF THE ALZHEIMER'S
ASSOCIATION. GREAT. AND YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU. I'M
ERIC DOWDY, I'M VICE PRESIDENT
OF PUBLIC POLICY FOR THE
ALZHEIMER'S ASSOCIATION. AS A
SPONSORS OF SB 639, I WANT TO
THANK SENATOR LEMON FOR HER
GREAT WORK, AS WELL AS HER STAFF
AND ALSO THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF, WHO'VE BEEN
EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN GETTING
THIS TO TODAY'S HEARING. EARLY
DETECTION OF ALZHEIMER'S AND
DEMENTIA IS CRITICAL NOW MORE
THAN EVER FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE
HAVE DISEASE ALTERING THERAPIES
THAT CAN SLOW THE PROGRESSION OF
THE DISEASE. HOWEVER, CURRENTLY,
THESE THERAPIES ARE ONLY
EFFECTIVE FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
THE EARLY STAGES. SB 639 WILL
HELP TO ENSURE FASTER AND MORE
ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS BY SHARING
THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS TO
PROVIDERS WORKING ON THE FRONT
LINES. AS THE POPULATION OF OUR
STATE AGES, IT'S EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT THAT OUR HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS ARE EQUIPPED TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF OLDER CALIFORNIANS.
I'D LIKE TO USE THE REMAINDER OF
MY TIME AND TURN IT OVER TO OUR
ADVOCATE HERE, JEZEBEL, TO TALK
ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE. GREAT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. THIS MORNING. MY NAME IS
JEZEBEL GALVAN FROM SACRAMENTO.
I AM THE DAUGHTER OF GERARDO
GALVAN. GERARDO IS CURRENTLY 61
YEARS OLD, LIVING WITH EARLY
ONSET ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE. WHEN
MY FATHER TURNED 55, HE BEGAN TO
DO ODD THINGS LIKE PUT THE MILK
IN THE CLOSET AND THE CEREAL IN
THE FRIDGE. SINCE HE WAS A TRUCK
DRIVER, WE DISMISSED IT WITH HIM
BEING VERY TIRED. ONE DAY I
RECEIVED A CALL FROM HIS
DISPATCHER WHO EXPRESSED HOW
CONCERNED HE WAS ABOUT MY FATHER
. HE SHARED HOW MY FATHER WAS
MAKING CARELESS, BUT DETRIMENTAL
MISTAKES. FIRST, HE LEFT THE
BOTTOM DOOR OF THE SEMI UNLOCKED
AND WAS SPILLING TOMATO JUICE
THROUGH THE WHOLE HIGHWAY. BUT
TODAY HE WENT AGAINST TRAFFIC ON
THE FREEWAY. HE EXPRESSED WHEN
HE TOLD ME THIS, I BECAME
SPEECHLESS. I DIDN'T HAVE WORDS.
I MADE AN APPOINTMENT FOR MY DAD
WITH HIS PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR AND
TOLD HIM HE HAD TO GO AFTER
EXPLAINING MY DAD'S SYMPTOMS,
THE DOCTOR TOLD US HE WAS JUST
OVERWORKING HIMSELF AND THAT
THIS WAS NORMAL FOR HIS AGE.
SINCE I WAS STILL NOT HAPPY WITH
THAT RESPONSE, THE DOCTOR
REFERRED MY FATHER TO A
NEUROLOGIST. THIS MADE ME FEEL A
LITTLE MORE AT PEACE UNTIL I
REALIZED THE APPOINTMENT WAS IN
TEN MONTHS. IN THE MEANTIME, MY
FATHER'S SYMPTOMS HAD BECOME
WORSE. HE BEGAN TO HALLUCINATE
AND BECAME AFRAID OF GOING
OUTSIDE. I GOT SO FRUSTRATED
THAT I CALLED HIS PRIMARY CARE
DOCTOR OFFICE BACK. WE COULDN'T
WAIT TEN MONTHS. WE NEEDED HELP.
THEY GAVE US AN APPOINTMENT WITH
THE PSYCHIATRIST WHO DIAGNOSED
MY FATHER WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA.
THIS SIMPLY DID NOT SOUND RIGHT
TO ME. WE DECIDED TO TRUST THE
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND BEGAN
TO GIVE MY FATHER THE MEDICATION
PRESCRIBED TO HIM BY THE
PSYCHIATRIST. MY DAD ONLY GOT
WORSE BY THIS POINT. IT WAS JULY
AND MY FATHER'S APPOINTMENT WAS
NOT UNTIL OCTOBER. SO OUT OF
DESPERATE NEED, WE DECIDED TO
TAKE MY FATHER TO MEXICO, WHERE
WE DID NOT NEED A REFERRAL TO
SEE A SPECIALIST. AFTER TWO DAYS
IN MEXICO, WE RECEIVED A
DIAGNOSIS. THEY INFORMED US MY
FATHER HAD DEMENTIA. THIS STILL
DID NOT CLEAR MY FATHER FOR A
DIAGNOSIS TO BE ACCEPTED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. IT WAS ONLY UNTIL MY
FATHER'S DISEASE PROGRESSED FOUR
YEARS SINCE THE ONSET. SYMPTOMS
BEGAN THAT A LOCAL NEUROLOGIST
CONFIRMED THAT MY FATHER HAD
EARLY ONSET ALZHEIMER'S. THE
JOURNEY TO GET TO TODAY HAS BEEN
VERY DIFFICULT, TO SAY THE LEAST
. I BEAT MYSELF UP EVERY DAY
THINKING IF I HAD LISTENED TO MY
GUT, WE'D OR HAVE PUSHED HARDER.
IF THE PROVIDERS WE FIRST
APPROACH HAD RECEIVED ADDITIONAL
TRAINING TO RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS
OF ALZHEIMER'S, MAYBE MY FATHER
WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A CORRECT
DIAGNOSIS FROM DAY ONE, SAVING
MY FAMILY PRECIOUS TIME AND
STRESS. TODAY, I URGE YOUR A
VOTE ON SB 639 SO THAT
CALIFORNIA PROVIDERS CAN RECEIVE
DEMENTIA TRAINING TO BETTER
PREPARE THEM FOR WHEN THEY
ENCOUNTER FAMILIES LIKE MINE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR
YOUR PERSONAL STORY WITH US
TODAY. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE
TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL? ANY ADD ONS IN SUPPORT OF
SB 639? MR. CHAIR AND ASSEMBLY
MEMBER, CARILLO MONICA MILLER
REPRESENTING ALZHEIMER'S, SAN
DIEGO, ALZHEIMER'S, ORANGE
COUNTY AND ALZHEIMER'S LOS
ANGELES IN SUPPORT. AND WE
APOLOGIZE OUR LETTER WAS A
LITTLE BIT LATE. SO THANK YOU,
SENATOR. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING. CHRISTY WEISS WITH
CAPITAL ADVOCACY HERE IN SUPPORT
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION FOR NURSE
PRACTITIONERS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. SELENA COPI HORNBACK WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ASSISTED LIVING
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON FILE.
I DON'T SEE ANY IN THE ROOM.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, STILL
SEEING NONE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
MY COLLEAGUE? NO QUESTIONS FROM
MY COLLEAGUE, WE ARE STILL
OPERATING AS A WHAT DO WE CALL
IT AGAIN? SUBCOMMITTEE.
SUBCOMMITTEE? SURE. SO WE'RE NOT
TAKING MOTIONS IN SECONDS, BUT
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, SENATOR
LIMÓN, I JUST WANT TO THANK
AGAIN THE COMMITTEE, THE CHAIR.
AND WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE,
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD AND WORKING WITH US. I
DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE NEED
TO INCREASE AWARENESS AROUND
ALZHEIMER'S AND EMERGING
RESEARCH AND THERAPIES. AND
AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOUR
WITNESS. FOR SHARING HER
TESTIMONY WITH US TODAY. HER DAD
IS LUCKY. YOUR DAD IS LUCKY TO
HAVE YOU AS AN ADVOCATE, AND
THAT'S CLEARLY MADE A BIG
DIFFERENCE, IN HIS LIFE AND IN
YOUR LIFE. SO THANK YOU FOR
TRYING TO CHART A PATH FOR
OTHERS, TO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE
TO GO THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE GONE
THROUGH AND GET THE, THE
DIAGNOSIS THAT THEY SHOULD
SOONER HERE IN CALIFORNIA, WITH
THAT AND WITH THE ACCEPTING
AMENDMENTS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL WHEN THE TIME
COMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. GENERAL ROTH, SB
1042, READY WHEN YOU ARE, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FIRST, I
WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE FOR
PRESENTING THAT LAST BILL AND
FOR THAT COMPELLING TESTIMONY.
EXCUSE ME. IT CERTAINLY
ILLUSTRATES THE DRAMATIC IMPACT
OF THE HEALTH CARE SHORTAGE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND OUR
NATION, AND THE IMPACT THAT IT
HAS ON FAMILIES AND THE
INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED. THIS BILL
IS A SHORTAGE RELATED BILL AS
WELL. IT REQUIRES ALL NURSING
PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA TO REPORT THEIR
CLINICAL PLACEMENT NEEDS TO THE
BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING. THE
BILL ALSO REQUIRES LICENSED
HEALTH CARE FACILITIES AND
CLINICS TO REPORT ON CLINICAL
PLACEMENT SLOTS FOR NURSING
STUDENTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH CARE ACCESS AND
INFORMATION, OR HCCI. THE BILL
WOULD ALSO PERMIT, BUT NOT
REQUIRE, THE BOARD OF REGISTERED
NURSING AT ITS OPTION AND UPON
REQUEST BY A NURSING SCHOOL OR
PROGRAM TO ASSIST SCHOOLS IN
IDENTIFYING CLINICAL PLACEMENT
SLOTS TO MEET THE CLINICAL
PLACEMENT NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL
PROGRAM. FRANKLY, ONE OF THE
MAJOR BOTTLENECKS TO GROWING
CAPACITY IN OUR NURSING
PROGRAMS, AND WE DO HAVE A
NURSING SHORTAGE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND WE'VE HAD ONE
FOR DECADES. ONE OF THE MAJOR
PROBLEMS IS THE CHALLENGE OF
LOCATING AND SECURING ADDITIONAL
CLINICAL PLACEMENT SLOTS
NECESSARY TO PROVIDE CLINICAL
TRAINING REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE
NURSING DEGREE. IT IMPACTS THE
STUDENTS THAT ARE SEEKING TO BE
ENROLLED IN NURSING SCHOOL, AND
IT ALSO IMPACTS THE SCHOOLS THAT
ARE SEEKING TO EXPAND THEIR
PROGRAMS TO PRODUCE MORE NURSES.
IN 2020, OUR STATE AUDITOR
SPECIFICALLY RECOMMENDED THAT
THE BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING
REQUIRE NURSING PROGRAMS TO
ANNUALLY UPDATE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE CLINICAL FACILITIES
THEY USE FOR STUDENT PLACEMENTS,
AND THAT COMPILING THIS
INFORMATION AND COMPARING IT
WITH OTHER AVAILABLE INFORMATION
ABOUT EXISTING CLINICAL
PLACEMENTS WOULD ALLOW THE BOARD
TO IDENTIFY CLINICAL FACILITIES
THAT WERE PROGRAMS DO NOT
CURRENTLY EXIST FOR PLACEMENTS,
WHICH COULD, OF COURSE, HELP
NURSING PROGRAMS FIND ADDITIONAL
CLINICAL PLACEMENT SLOTS. SO
THIS BILL DOES JUST THAT BY
COLLECTING DATA ON NURSING
PROGRAMS, CLINICAL PLACEMENT
NEEDS AND COLLECTING DATA FROM
HEALTH FACILITIES AND CLINICS ON
THEIR CLINICAL PLACEMENT SLOTS.
THE BOARD AND HPSCI WILL GET THE
DATA NECESSARY TO PUT THE MAKE
THE LINES CROSS, BRING THE LINES
TOGETHER AND IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL
CLINICAL PLACEMENT SLOTS FOR
SCHOOLS. AFTER WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS, WE'VE TAKEN
VARIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT ADDRESS
THE CONCERNS RAISED BY
CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS, HEALTH
CARE DISTRICTS AND PRIVATE
SCHOOLS. AND IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE
AMENDMENTS FINALLY HAVE REMOVED
ALL OPPOSITION. I WANT TO THANK
ALL OF THOSE THE HOSPITALS, THE
PRIVATE SCHOOLS, COMMITTEE
STAFF, OTHER STAKEHOLDERS FOR
WORKING TOGETHER WITH US ALONG
THIS RATHER ARDUOUS PROCESS TO
TRY TO MAKE THIS BILL THE BEST
BILL THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE.
SO WITH THAT, AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME, I'D RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR, FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK
YOU, SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
YOUR LONG TIME WORK ON THIS
ISSUE, ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL? I SEE LOTS
OF GROUPS IN SUPPORT. NO ONE, NO
PRIMARY WITNESSES. ANY PRIMARY.
OH, COME ON UP. TAKE YOUR TIME.
ANNA MATTHEWS WITH THE FACULTY
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE WHO
WANTS TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL? SARAH DUQUETTE, ON
BEHALF OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL, SEEING NONE DO THE GOOD
WORK OF THE AUTHOR ANY ADD ONS
OR TWEENERS OR THERE WE GO. A
MAP BACK REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PRIVATE
POST-SECONDARY SCHOOLS. WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH SENATOR ROTH
AND HIS STAFF WITH THE MOST
RECENT AMENDMENTS. WE ARE NOW
NEUTRAL. THANK YOU EVERYONE
LOVES TO HEAR IT. THAT'S GOOD
NEWS. ANY ADD ONS IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL? I DON'T THINK I
CALLED THEM YET. NOPE. DOES MY
COLLEAGUE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? NONE.
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
? JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK
YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND YOUR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND HELP WITH THE BILL.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
SENATOR, FOR WORKING WITH US AND
ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS ON THIS
BILL. CLINICAL PLACEMENT,
AVAILABILITY, AS YOU KNOW,
CONTINUES TO BE A SIGNIFICANT
PROBLEM FOR OUR SCHOOLS. AND I,
AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THROUGH
YOUR HARD WORK, YOU'VE
SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED EVERY
CONCERN THAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR,
AND AS AS A RESULT, THE BILL HAS
NO OPPOSITION, AND I AM HAPPY TO
SUPPORT IT WHEN WE GET
APPROXIMATELY EIGHT MORE
COLLEAGUES HERE TODAY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. SENATOR
BRADFORD PERFECT TIMING. READY
WHEN YOU ARE FOR SB 1059. WE'VE
HAD MORE SENATORS IN THE HEARING
ROOM THAN WE HAVE HAD ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS FOR ALL ASSEMBLY MEMBERS
WATCHING OR YOUR STAFFS, WE
WOULD ENJOY YOUR PRESENCE.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, SIR. I
THINK WHICH WILL ASSIST LEGAL,
CANNABIS INDUSTRY BY ALLEVIATING
SOME OF THE TREMENDOUS TAX
BURDEN THAT IS PLACED ON THIS
INDUSTRY. THIS BILL WOULD
ELIMINATE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S
ABILITY TO COLLECT THE TAX ON
THE TAX. AND SOME JURISDICTIONS,
LIKE LOS ANGELES, THESE LOCAL
CANNABIS TAXES ARE FEES ARE
CALCULATED AFTER THE STATE
EXCISE TAX IS APPLIED. THE
CALCULATION METHOD IS UNFAIR TO
CONSUMERS AND DISADVANTAGES.
LICENSE TO RETAILERS THAT
CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AGAINST A
THRIVING ILLICIT MARKET. 1059
ADDRESSES THE ISSUE AND ENSURES
TAXES ARE BASED ON ACTUAL GOODS
BEING SOLD. TODAY, TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT IS GERARD KILO WITH THE
UNITED CANNABIS BUSINESS
ASSOCIATION. AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME, I WOULD ASK FOR AYE VOTE.
YEAH. THANK YOU. TWO MINUTES
PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE
IT. CHAIR, JARED KILO,
PRESIDENT, UNITED COUNTIES
BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, OVER $1
BILLION A YEAR IS COLLECTED FROM
THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY, AND WE
STILL DON'T USE THE PROPER
ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO REDUCE THE
GROWTH OF THE ILLICIT INDUSTRY.
THE FACT THAT THE DCC HAS ISSUED
37% MORE RETAIL LICENSES SINCE
2022, AND THAT HAS BROUGHT IN
11% LESS REVENUE, SHOWS THAT
ACCESS IS NOT THE ONLY DRIVING
FACTOR IN DECLINING REVENUES. IF
WE HAD A HEALTHY LEGAL CANNABIS
INDUSTRY, WOULD WE HAVE $754
MILLION IN UNPAID CANNABIS
TAXES? BUT THE MORE CONCERNING
STAT IS THAT DEBT NUMBER WAS
$250 MILLION IN DECEMBER OF
2023, $500 MILLION IN NEW DEBT
IN FIVE MONTHS TO THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND 70% OF THAT DEBT
IS FROM BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
ALREADY CLOSED. WHEN WE VIEW THE
CDTFA. S TAX REVENUE REPORTS ON
CANNABIS, WE SEE A FLAT NUMBER
OF REVENUE OVER THE LAST FEW
QUARTERS. BUT THAT'S NOT TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT THAT 30% OF THESE
TAXPAYERS ARE IN PAYMENT
PROGRAMS, AND 15% OF THESE
TAXPAYERS ARE IN DEFAULT. SO THE
LOST OR DELAYED REVENUE IS NOT
REPRESENTED IN CDTFA. S
QUARTERLY REVENUE REPORTS. SO
THESE REPORTS DON'T SHOW THE
DIRE STRAITS CANNABIS IS IN
RIGHT NOW AS BUSINESSES ARE
FAILING OR FALLING INTO DEEP
DEBT, WE CAN SEE THAT THE EVER
GROWING ILLICIT CANNABIS
INDUSTRY, WHERE PRICES ARE LOWER
AND ESTIMATED AT OVER $8 BILLION
IN VALUATION. THAT, COUPLED WITH
THE EMERGING CANNABIS SALES SOLD
UNDER THE GUISE OF HEMP, WITH
ITS EXPONENTIAL GROWTH OVER THE
LAST TWO YEARS, SHOWS THAT THE
DEMAND FOR CANNABIS PRODUCTS AT
A LOWER COST, OR WHAT CONSUMERS
ARE DEMANDING. WE HAVE A 50% OR
HIGHER PRICE IN THE LEGAL
CANNABIS SPACE, SO CONSUMERS ARE
MAKING THEIR CHOICE TO PURCHASE
THE LOWER PRICED, UNTAXED,
UNREGULATED AND UNTESTED
PRODUCTS AS SHOWN IN THE
METEORIC RISE OF COMPETING
INDUSTRIES WHO DON'T APPLY TAXES
TO THE PRICE OF GOODS. IF WE
KEEP TINKERING AROUND THINKING
THE WAR ON ILLEGAL DRUGS IS
GOING TO WIN WITH BADGES, WE'VE
LEARNED NOTHING IN THE PAST HALF
CENTURY OF DRUG POLICY. THIS
BILL IS ASKING FOR ENFORCEMENT
TO COME IN THE WAY OF MORE
COMPETITIVE PRICING BY REDUCING
THE CONSUMER TAX AND ELIMINATING
THE CONFLICTING COMPOUNDING
TAXES THAT AB 195 CREATED, AND
ONLY PUSH MORE CONSUMERS TO
ILLEGAL PRICES. AND IF YOU COULD
WRAP UP, THAT'D BE GREAT. SB
1059 IS A CLEANUP BILL TO
CLARIFY WHO PAYS TAXES AND WHERE
THE TAX ON TAXES COME FROM.
HOPEFULLY, WE CAN CLEAN THIS UP.
FOR MANY MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE
RUNNING INTO THIS CONFLICT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE GOOD
MORNING. PAM LOPEZ. ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA NORML, WE HAVE ALL
DISCUSSED EXTENSIVELY THE RISE
IN THE ILLICIT CANNABIS MARKET.
WE KNOW WHAT A CHALLENGE IT IS.
WE KNOW THAT TAXES AND CONSUMER
PRICE BURDENS ARE A MAJOR DRIVER
OF THE THRIVING ILLICIT MARKET.
I JUST WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ON
BEHALF OF CANNABIS CONSUMERS,
WHOM CALIFORNIA NORMAL
REPRESENTS. WHAT A BIG DEAL IT
IS TO SEE TAXES ON TOP OF TAXES.
WE ARE HEARING AT CALIFORNIA
NORML THAT THIS IS ONE PIECE OF
THE TAXES THAT CONSUMERS PAY,
BUT IT IS THE MOST SORT OF
INTELLECTUALLY INFURIATING
CANNABIS CONSUMERS WHO GO TO A
LEGAL DISPENSARY AND WHO HAVE
GONE THAT EXTRA MILE TO PURCHASE
IN THE LICENSED LEGAL ECONOMY,
WHO CAN THEN SEE ENUMERATED ON
THEIR RECEIPT A TAX ON TOP OF A
TAX. IT MAKES THEIR HEAD WANT TO
EXPLODE, AND IT'S OFTEN THE
STRAW ON THE CAMEL'S BACK THAT
PUSHES THEM INTO GOING BACK INTO
THE ILLICIT, ILLEGAL ECONOMY.
SO, SENATOR BRADFORD'S BILL IS
AN IMPORTANT MEASURE IN TERMS OF
REDUCING THE TAX BURDEN ON
CONSUMERS. BUT IT'S ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT MEASURE IN TERMS OF
REDUCING THE INTELLECTUAL STRAIN
OF THE TAX BURDEN ON CONSUMERS.
AND WE'RE SO GLAD THAT HE'S
CARRYING IT AND GLAD TO SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES WHO WANT TO
ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL?
ANY ADD ONS IN SUPPORT? GOOD
MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS. AMY JENKINS, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, CAN CRAFT
MARSHA NASH AND SPARK IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WENDY. MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE, SAM RODRIGUEZ, ON
BEHALF OF GOOD FARMERS AND GREAT
NEIGHBORS, WE WANT TO COMPLIMENT
SENATOR BRADFORD AND HIS
ACTUALLY HIS EFFORTS HAS BEEN A
DETERRENT FOR CITIES NOT GOING
GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS, GEORGE
MILLER, ON BEHALF OF WEEDMAPS IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? I DON'T SEE ANY ON FILE. I
DON'T SEE ANY IN THE ROOM.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, SEEING
NONE, BRING IT BACK TO MORE
COLLEAGUES NOW FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. STILL 40% OF WHAT WE
NEED FOR A QUORUM. WE'RE GETTING
THERE TWICE AS MUCH AS WE HAD
FIVE MINUTES AGO. QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS? NO QUESTIONS, NO
COMMENTS. SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR. AS YOU HEARD BY OUR
WITNESSES, THIS IS
STRAIGHTFORWARD. MEASURE THAT
HOPE WITH SOLE INTENTION ON
MAKING SURE OUR CANNABIS
INDUSTRY IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE
TO ALL THAT PARTICIPATE,
ESPECIALLY THOSE FOLKS WHO
CHOOSE TO USE THE LEGAL MARKET
AND, WE SEE NOW WITH THE ILLICIT
WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY THE
ILLICIT TAX WITH THIS TAX ON
TAX, IT'S ALMOST A 47% INCREASE
ON WHAT THEY'RE PAYING AT THE
ILLICIT MARKET. SO THIS IS A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE TO GENERATE
NOT ONLY MORE REVENUE FOR THE
COUNTY, FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, BUT ALSO MAKE IT FAR
MORE AFFORDABLE FOR CALIFORNIANS
TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THE RIGHT I
VOTE. COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT
BETTER MYSELF. THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD, AND
I HOPE THE ADDITIONAL CLARITY
AROUND GROSS RECEIPTS WILL
BENEFIT LICENSEES AND CONSUMERS
ALIKE. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES,
I'LL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
THINK SENATOR NGUYEN IS THE HUGE
WINNER OF TODAY. JUMPING FROM
THIS IS LIKE THE LOTTERY JUMPING
FROM 14TH TO FOURTH. THAT'S Ó
JUST IN TIME. YOU WIN BY THREE
SECONDS. SORRY SENATOR NEWMAN,
SENATOR NGUYEN PRESENTING SB
1459. WHEN YOU'RE READY. THAT'S
RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND MEMBERS, I WOULD FIRST LIKE
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR WORK ON THE ANALYSIS AND
ALSO THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS
THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED US. I
ALSO ACCEPT THE AUTHORS
AMENDMENTS WITH THE TWO
AMENDMENTS REFER REFERENCE IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AS WELL,
AS AMENDED, BEGINNING ON JANUARY
1ST, 2026, SB 1459 WILL WILL
ALLOW ALL PUBLIC ANIMAL SHELTERS
AND ALL PRIVATE ANIMAL SHELTERS
WITH LOCAL CONTRACTS FOR ANIMAL
CARE TO MONTHLY UPDATE THEIR
PUBLIC WEBSITES WITH THE
FOLLOWING ITEMS OF INFORMATION
THAT ARE INDICATIVE OF HOW THE
SHELTER IS MANAGED AND OPERATES.
NUMBER ONE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS
TAKEN IN DURING THE PERIOD PRIOR
MONTH, WITH SEPARATE CATEGORIES
FOR DOGS, CATS, AND OTHER
ANIMALS. NUMBER TWO THE SOURCE
OF INTAKE, SUCH AS A RELOCATION
FROM ANOTHER SHELTER OR FROM
FROM THE FIELD NUMBER THREE
OUTCOMES FOR ANIMALS OVER THE
PAST. OVER THE PRIOR MONTH,
INCLUDING ADOPTIONS, RETURNS TO
OWNERS, TRANSFERS TO RESCUE
ORGANIZATION, EUTHANIZED
ANIMALS, DIED IN CARE OR DEAD
UPON ARRIVAL. AB SB, SB 1459 IS
INTENDED TO FACILITATE EASY
COMPARISONS AMONG SHELTERS IN AN
EFFORT TO STIMULATE COMPETITION
AND GENERATE PUBLIC PRESSURE FOR
IMPROVEMENT BY SUBPAR SHELTERS.
I HAVE WITH ME KAREN LANG WITH
CAL ANIMALS HERE TO TESTIFY AND
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THE
CALIFORNIA ANIMAL WELFARE
ASSOCIATION, THE ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTS A LITTLE OVER 200
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SHELTERS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THANK
YOU TO YOUR STAFF FOR DOING SUCH
A PHENOMENAL JOB TRYING TO
THREAD THE NEEDLE HERE, FOR
THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE,
CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC ANIMAL
SHELTERS DO NOT RECEIVE ANY
STATE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN
CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC ANIMAL
SHELTERS IS GENERALLY PART OF
THE CITY OR COUNTY'S BUDGET, AND
THEN SOME PORTION OF THEIR
OPERATIONS COMES FROM ADOPTION
FEES. BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S A
DELICATE BALANCE TO BECAUSE WE
WANT FOLKS COMING IN THE DOOR.
I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE
A FEW TIMES WITH SOME PRETTY
ROUGH, POLICY IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE SHELTERS UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
WANT MORE TRANSPARENCY. WE
UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY, YOU
KNOW, CERTAINLY OUR PETS ARE
PROBABLY SOME OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT PURE RELATIONSHIPS WE
HAVE IN OUR LIVES. AND WE
UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS ARE VERY
CONCERNED HERE AND ELSEWHERE
ABOUT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR
SHELTERS. AND WE'RE DEFINITELY
FULL, THERE IT'S THERE'S JUST
MORE, MORE ANIMALS COMING IN
THAN FOLKS SHOWING UP TO ADOPT
THEM. WE UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE
FOR TRANSPARENCY. WE WERE TRYING
TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW FAR
WE WENT WITH THE POINTS OF DATA,
SO THAT WE DIDN'T SINK OURSELVES
IN APPROPRIATIONS, WHICH IS NOT
YOUR PROBLEM. BUT WE DO WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THROUGH THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE THE
DATA THAT THE SENATOR IS
INCLUDING IN HER BILL IS
SOMETHING THAT SHELTERS ALREADY
TRACK. AND GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL
YEAR TO COME ONLINE, IF SHELTERS
NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO
GET INTO COMPLIANCE, WE THINK
EVERY PUBLIC SHELTER IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA SHOULD BE
ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE BILL
WITH EXISTING RESOURCES, SINCE
THEY ALREADY TRACK THAT BASED ON
THE GREAT WORK YOU DID WITH THE
VET MED BOARD SUNSET A FEW YEARS
AGO, AND WE DEFINITELY KEEP
TRACK OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO SYNC THE
BILL WITH COSTS THAT WE HAVE NO
WAY OF PAYING FOR. THE RESOURCES
THAT THEY DO HAVE. THEY WANT TO
INVEST IN SAVING AS MANY ANIMALS
AS THEY CAN. SO I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR AND AGAIN,
YOUR COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANY PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO ADD ON ANY ADDITIONAL PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? WE HAVE
ROOM FOR ONE MORE. I'M GUESSING
NOT SINCE NO ONE RUSHED UP.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ADD ON IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL, SEEING
NONE, ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. COME ON,
COME ON UP. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
EACH. NO.
THIS IS WORKING. OKAY, GREAT. IT
IS. GOOD MORNING. I'M JULIE
VIRGA, PRESIDENT OF FIX OUR
SHELTERS. AN ANIMAL SHELTER
WATCHDOG ORGANIZATION. AND I'M
ALSO ON THE BOARD FOR THE PET
ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION, WHICH HAS
FILED OPPOSITION AS WELL. OUR
COALITION INCLUDES RESCUE AND
ADVOCACY PARTNERS FROM ACROSS
OUR STATE. YESTERDAY, WE WERE
ALL IN TOWN TO CALL ATTENTION TO
THE EPIC CRISIS FACING ANIMALS
BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE SHELTER
WALLS. WE HAVE NOTHING BUT
GRATITUDE AND PRAISE FOR SENATOR
NGUYEN AND THE COAUTHORS FOR
RECOGNIZING THE NECESSITY FOR
OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
FROM PUBLIC ANIMAL SHELTERS. AS
SENATOR NGUYEN SAID IN MANY
VIDEOS AND ORANGE COUNTY
REPORTING REGARDING HER
PARTICULAR SHELTER, SHE WAS
SHOCKED TO LEARN OF THE
DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS ANIMALS
WERE KEPT IN AT HER BRAND NEW
ORANGE COUNTY SHELTER IN HER
DISTRICT. SICK AND INJURED
ANIMALS LEFT UNTREATED, NO
PUBLIC ACCESS OR VOLUNTEER OR
RESCUE ENGAGEMENT TO SAVE LIVES
ON AND ON. MANY MANY BAD STORIES
THERE, AS SENATOR NGUYEN ASKED,
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? WHAT
SHOULD THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT
SHELTER OPERATIONS? FOR
STARTERS, WE SHOULD ALL KNOW
CONDITIONS AND OPERATIONS OF
THIS PARTICULAR SHELTER WERE NOT
UNCOMMON TO THE CONTRARY,
CALIFORNIA NOW LEADS THE NATION
IN THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS
EUTHANIZED IN SHELTERS ACROSS
OUR STATE, UNALTERED AND
UNVACCINATED ANIMALS ARE
ROUTINELY TURNED AWAY AT SHELTER
DOORS AND THROUGH 311 SYSTEMS
BECAUSE OF REDUCED INTAKE
PROGRAMS, THE REDUCED INTAKE OF
ANIMALS AT SHELTERS IS THE
CENTERPIECE OF PROGRAMS ADVANCED
BY UCD CORPORATE SHELTER
MEDICINE PROGRAM AND CAL
ANIMALS, THEIR SO-CALLED
INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS OF REDUCED
OR MANAGED INTAKE OF ANIMALS
PRESUMES THE LESS ANIMALS
ENTERING SHELTERS, THE LESS WILL
BE KILLED. UNFORTUNATELY, THESE
PROGRAMS HAVE BACKFIRED
SPECTACULARLY. INTAKE OF ANIMALS
IS STILL BELOW PRE-COVID LEVELS,
BUT THE EUTHANASIA AND
OVERPOPULATION OF UNWANTED
ANIMALS HAS SKYROCKETED. AND IF
YOU COULD WRAP UP, THAT'D BE
GREAT. IN CLOSING, UNLESS THE
DATA COLLECTION REQUIRED OF THIS
BILL INCLUDES THE NUMBER OF CATS
AND DOGS TURNED AWAY, IT WILL
HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
OF CONTINUING TO ADVANCE A
FALSE, MISLEADING, AND
INACCURATE PICTURE OF SHELTER
OPERATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THAT WAS A
QUICK TWO MINUTES. PERFECT. ALL
RIGHT. GREAT. THAT'S MY TWO
MINUTES. ELAYNE BOOSLER I'M
FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF TAILS
OF JOY RESCUE, 23 YEARS AND
COUNTING. WE'RE A PLATINUM RATED
EVERYWHERE. WE'RE A FINANCIAL
RESCUE, AND WE DO WHAT YOU GUYS
SHOULD BE DOING. WE SUPPORT ALL
THE TINY MOM AND POP,
INDEPENDENT RESCUERS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY WHERE NATIONWIDE,
INCLUDING MEXICO AND CANADA,
AND, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING IS
I'M STUNNED THAT WE HAD TO HAVE
A BILL IN 2024 THAT MAKE
SHELTERS TELL US THE ANIMALS
THEY HAVE. YOU WOULD THINK THIS
WOULD HAVE BEEN I MEAN, THAT'S
THEIR JOB TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW
WHO'S THERE AND WHO CAN BE
ADOPTED AND, AND HOW IT TURNS
OUT. SO I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW,
A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. BUT THE
MAIN THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU GUYS LOOK AT NEXT DOOR, I
WAKE UP, I LOOK AT THE NEXT DOOR
APP. I'M SEEING SOMETHING I
NEVER SAW IN ALL THE YEARS
BEFORE, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOODS
AND PEOPLE SCREAMING ON
NEXTDOOR. OH MY GOD, I FOUND
THIS DOG. OH MY GOD, I FOUND
THIS CAT. IT IS RAMPANT. THEY'RE
JUST BEING TURNED INTO THE
STREETS BECAUSE THE NATION IS
DEMANDING NO KILL, WHICH WE KNOW
THERE'S NO WAY TO HAVE 100% NO
KILL. THERE ARE OLD ANIMALS.
THERE ARE SICK ANIMALS. WE
UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IN ORDER
FOR THEIR NUMBERS TO LOOK LIKE,
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING DOWN
WITH NO KILL. THEY'RE LITERALLY
NOT TAKING IN ANIMALS. WE HAVE A
VIDEO IN FRESNO OF AN ANIMAL
CARE TRUCK PICKING UP A DOG,
DRIVING A BLOCK, DUMPING THEM
OUT, AND FOX NEWS PUT IT ON TV.
WHEN WE SENT IT TO THEM. NOT THE
BAD FOX NEWS. THE GOOD FOX NEWS,
THEY THEY AIRED IT AND PEOPLE
WERE STUNNED THAT HE JUST DUMPED
THE DOG OUT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT
THE OWNERS SAW THE VIDEO AND IT
TOOK THEM THREE WEEKS TO TRACK
DOWN THEIR DOG AND GET HIM BACK.
IF HE HAD BEEN TAKEN TO THE
SHELTER THAT DAY, SO MUCH TRAUMA
WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. SO. SO
HERE'S THE THING. IF YOU DON'T
START PASSING REALLY GOOD BILLS
TO REALLY CARE ABOUT ANIMALS,
OUR NEXT TEN YEARS IS GOING TO
BE SPENT GETTING DOGS THE VOTE
AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN SO
MUCH TROUBLE BECAUSE FIRST OF
ALL, WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE
NEVER WARMED TO A BAD HUMAN
BEING. THEY KNOW INSTANTLY. SO
ONLY GOOD GUYS ARE GOING TO BE
IN OFFICE. WE'RE GOING TO GET
THEM THE VOTE AND WE'RE GOING TO
START NAMING OUR BILLS. THINGS
LIKE DON'T KILL THE PUPPY BILL.
SO WHEN YOU VOTE AGAINST IT,
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY HE
VOTED AGAINST THE DON'T KILL THE
PUPPY BILL. ARE YOU LIKE THE
PATRIOT ACT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE
LEARNED IF YOU COULD WRAP UP,
THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
YOU HAVE TO DO BETTER. THIS
BILL. YOU WANT TO PASS IT?
GREAT. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO
MAKE LIVES BETTER FOR ANIMALS,
TO SAVE THEM, TO KEEP THEM
HEALTHIER. PLEASE DO BETTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL, FOLKS WHO WANT
TO ADD ON IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? JUST, YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION. YOU'RE WITH, IF
ANY, AND POSITION ON THE BILL.
THANK YOU. FELICE, I'M WITH
FIXED FRONT STREET AND I OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Dð COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FOR COLLEAGUES? 123456.
WE'RE GETTING CLOSER. WE'RE
GETTING WE HAVE A GOOD DEM
REPRESENTATION. WE'RE WAITING
FOR A COUPLE OF REPUBLICANS, I'M
RIGHT HERE. NO, YOU ARE RIGHT
HERE. IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER
HERE, BY ALL MEANS, SENATOR,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS, TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT WERE THAT WERE MENTIONED.
FIRST OF ALL, THE ORANGE COUNTY
SHELTER IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT.
IT'S ACTUALLY IN ANOTHER
DISTRICT. BUT MY CITIES, THOUGH,
DO SOME OF MY CITIES DO CONTRACT
WITH THE COUNTY, AND I DID NOT
GO INTO DETAIL ON HOW AND WHY WE
GOT TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS
BILL, THE OPPONENT DID MENTION
THAT. YES IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK
A LITTLE BIT, IT IS ALL THE, THE
VOLUNTEERS OF THE SHELTERS AND
ALL THE INFORMATION WE'VE
RECEIVED. THERE WERE PICTURES OF
A HUSKY WHO WAS HIT BY A CAR AND
ENDED UP BEING IN THE SHELTER
FOR THREE DAYS AND JUST BLEED TO
DEATH WITHOUT ANY RECORD OF
WHETHER THAT HUSKY RECEIVED ANY
MEDICATION OR ANY ASSISTANCE OR
ANYTHING. AND NO ONE EVER. THERE
WAS NOTHING ON HIS RECORD. THEN
THERE'S A PICTURE OF A CAT WITH
HALF A LIMB, WITH BLOOD GUSHING
OUT, AND THERE WAS NO RESCUE TO
THAT CAT AND A CAT RESCUE
FACILITY NONPROFIT CAME IN AND
ASSISTED THE SHELTER AND HELP
AID THE CAT. BUT AGAIN, THE
RECORDS AREN'T THERE. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, I JUST I RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T
DO ANYTHING. THIS BILL DOES DO
SOMETHING. EVEN MY OPPONENTS
STATED THAT WE CAN'T BELIEVE WE
EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A BILL TO DO
THIS, BECAUSE CURRENTLY TODAY,
THERE ISN'T THIS INFORMATION.
SHELTERS VARIES ALL ACROSS THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SOME REPORT
MONTHLY, SOME DO QUARTERLY, SOME
DO ANNUALLY, SOME GIVES US
INTAKE INFORMATION, SOME GIVES
US OUTTAKE INFORMATION, SOME
GIVES US EUTHANIZATION RATES,
SOME GIVES US DON'T GIVE US
THAT. SO SOME GIVES US
INFORMATION ON DOGS, SOME GIVES
US ON CATS, SOME GIVES US ABOUT
OTHER ANIMALS. LET'S GET A
STANDARD IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THESE ANIMALS
DON'T HAVE A VOICE. WE ARE THEIR
VOICE. SO TO SAY THAT THIS BILL
DOESN'T HAVE ANY TEETH IS, QUITE
FRANKLY, OUTRAGEOUS AND VERY
OFFENSIVE, BECAUSE THIS BILL HAS
GONE THROUGH THE SENATE
BIPARTISAN, AND WE'VE WORKED
WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS
ACROSS THE STATE TO GET TO WHERE
WE ARE TODAY. AND SO TO ME, TO
SAY THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY
TEETH IS NOT RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS
IS WHERE WE NEED TO START. IF IT
HASN'T BEEN THERE, LET'S START
SOMEWHERE AND BY DOING THIS IS
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO HELPING
TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
DATA, THE MONTHLY DATA TO KNOW
IF THE ORANGE COUNTY SHELTER
THAT I REPRESENT IN ORANGE
COUNTY OR THE LA COUNTY SHELTER
THAT I ALSO REPRESENT, BECAUSE I
ALSO HAVE THREE CITIES IN LA
COUNTY, IF WE LOOK ON THE
WEBSITE AND WE KNOW HOW MANY
DOGS WERE INTAKE THAT LAST
MONTH, WE ALSO KNOW HOW MANY
LEFT THE SHELTER WERE ADOPTED,
HOW MANY WERE EUTHANIZED. WE
KNOW THE SEPARATION BETWEEN CATS
AND DOGS. WE KNOW WHAT OTHER
ANIMALS ARE THERE. THAT'S WHAT
THIS. THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS.
BUT THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE END
OF WHERE IT CAN LEAD TO. AND SO
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU,
SENATOR, AND THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS THIS BILL ON THIS
ISSUE FORWARD. GREATER PUBLIC
TRANSPARENCY IN OUR ANIMAL
SHELTERS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE TO ME. AND WITH THE
AMENDMENTS, THIS BILL WILL BE A
TOOL FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE
BETTER INSIGHT INTO THE SHELTER
OPERATIONS WE ARE FUNDING WITH
PUBLIC MONEY, SO WHEN THE TIME
COMES, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE. THANK
YOU. AND I THINK YOUR SECOND
BILL IS ON CONSENT. SO YOU'RE
GOOD TO GO THERE. THANK YOU.
SENATOR NEWMAN. AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER. SIX SB 1449.
READY, MR. CHAIR. GOOD TO GO.
VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. GOOD
MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS,
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT SB 1449, WHICH WILL
PROVIDE SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL
IN LOS ANGELES WITH TEMPORARY
REGULATORY RELIEF RELIEF AS IT
UNDERGOES THE PROCESS OF
ACCREDITATION BY THE WESTERN
ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND
COLLEGES, COMMONLY REFERRED TO
AS WOSC. IN 2010, IN RESPONSE TO
A SERIES OF SCANDALS INVOLVING
FOR PROFIT SCHOOLS, THE US
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION ISSUED
NEW RULES REQUIRING ALL
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
TO MAINTAIN A PROCESS FOR
RECEIVING AND PROCESSING
CONSUMER COMPLAINTS. SB 81,
PASSED IN 2015, AUTHORIZED THE
BUREAU FOR PRIVATE
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION TO
CONTRACT WITH OSC ACCREDITED
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES FOR
THIS PURPOSE. THAT AUTHORIZATION
DID NOT, HOWEVER, EXTEND THE
SAME PRIVILEGE TO NONPROFIT LAW
SCHOOLS ACCREDITED BY THE
AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION, WHICH,
LIKE OSC, IS RECOGNIZED UNDER
FEDERAL LAW AS AN INSTITUTIONAL
ACCREDITOR AND WHOSE STANDARDS
REQUIRE ABA ACCREDITED LAW
SCHOOLS TO MEET RIGOROUS
ACADEMIC ACCOUNTING AND
PERFORMANCE THRESHOLDS. AS A
CONSEQUENCE OF THIS OMISSION,
THE BUREAU FOR PRIVATE
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION
RECENTLY NOTIFIED SOUTHWESTERN
LAW SCHOOL, AN ABA ACCREDITED
SCHOOL, THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF
OSC ACCREDITATION, IT WOULD NEED
TO BECOME BUREAU LICENSED IN
ORDER TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH
FEDERAL LAW. THE BUREAU'S
LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, WHILE
GENERALLY WELL-INTENDED AND IN
THE SERVICE OF THE EMINENTLY,
EMINENTLY ADMIRABLE GOAL OF
PROTECTING STUDENTS INTERESTS,
ARE ACTUALLY, IN MANY CASES,
UNFORTUNATELY, IN DIRECT
CONFLICT WITH THE MORE TAILORED
AND NUANCED REQUIREMENTS OF THE
ABA. TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
BUREAU'S TREATMENT OF SOUTHWEST
SOUTHWESTERN'S VARIOUS LAW
DEGREE PATHWAYS, WHICH
DELIBERATELY ALLOW STUDENTS TO
SWITCH BETWEEN FULL OR PART TIME
STUDY OR BETWEEN IN-PERSON AND
FULLY REMOTE ATTENDANCE. WHILE
THESE ARE ALL DEEMED BY THE ABA
TO BE INTERCHANGEABLE PATHWAYS
WITHIN A SINGLE JD DEGREE
PROGRAM, THE BUREAU INSTEAD
TREATS EACH AS THEIR OWN
INDIVIDUAL DEGREE PROGRAM, AND
CONSEQUENTLY, IF A SOUTHWESTERN
LAW SCHOOL AT ANY POINT SWITCHES
BETWEEN FULL AND PART TIME, THE
BUREAU TREATS THEM AS HAVING
DROPPED OUT OF THE FULL TIME
PROGRAM AND THEN ENROLLED AS A
NEW STUDENT IN THE PART TIME
PROGRAM. THIS SEEMINGLY
INNOCUOUS CHANGE, WHICH COULD BE
THE RESULT OF ANY NUMBER OF
FACTORS IN A STUDENT'S LIFE AND
FOR WHICH SOUTHWESTERN DESERVES
CREDIT, ACTUALLY HAS THE
PROBLEMATIC EFFECT OF
INACCURATELY SKEWING
SOUTHWESTERN'S GRADUATION RATES
DOWNWARD, AND SUCH A FALSE
METRIC, ABSENT CONTEXT, CAN
DETER PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS AS
WELL AS ADVERSELY AFFECT THE
REPUTATIONS OF CURRENT AND
GRADUATED SOUTHWESTERN STUDENTS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE BUREAU'S
REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENT
TRANSCRIPTS TO INCLUDE
INFORMATION NOT OTHERWISE
REQUIRED BY THE ABA. THIS
INCLUDES MANDATORY DISCLOSURE OF
COURSES THAT A STUDENT MAY HAVE
DROPPED. THIS IS SOMETHING OTHER
LAW SCHOOLS DO NOT REQUIRE, AND
THE INCLUSION OF THOSE DROPPED
COURSES CAN ACTUALLY CARRY A
PUNITIVE EFFECT. AS SOUTHWESTERN
GRADUATES PURSUE POST-GRADUATE
EMPLOYMENT, PUTTING THEM AT A
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE TO
GRADUATES OF OTHER ABA LAW
SCHOOLS FOR WHOM NO SUCH
INFORMATION WOULD BE EITHER
AVAILABLE OR REQUIRED.
SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL HAS A
WELL EARNED REPUTATION, HAVING
PROVIDED CALIFORNIANS FROM ALL
WALKS OF LIFE WITH AFFORDABLE
AND HIGH QUALITY LEGAL
INSTRUCTION FOR MORE THAN A
CENTURY, PASSAGE OF SB 1449 WILL
PROVIDE SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL
WITH A TEMPORARY EXEMPTION AS IT
COMPLETES THE PROCESS OF OSC
ACCREDITATION OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS. WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY
IS GEORGE MILLER. ON BEHALF OF
SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL. I AM
RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR YOUR
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU. TWO
MINUTES SIR. COMPLEX. COMPLEX
MATTER. SEAN WAS ON. DARREN
USUALLY, I DON'T NEED A MIC WITH
MY VOICE, BUT IN ANY EVENT,
GEORGE MILLER REPRESENTING
SOUTHWESTERN LAW, I THINK THE
SENATOR PRETTY MUCH LAID IT OUT,
IN FACT, IN 2015, AFTER THE LAW
WAS PASSED THAT ALLOWED FOR
CONTRACTING WITH THE BUREAU, THE
SAME DAY, SOUTHWESTERN GOT
RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE
BUREAU SAYING, HERE'S WE'RE
GOING TO SEND YOU A CONTRACT.
YOU CAN CONTRACT WITH US FOR
COMPLAINT HANDLING PURPOSES,
SEND IT BACK WITH $1,600, WITHIN
THREE DAYS, I GOT A HARD COPY OF
THE LETTER AND THE CONTRACTOR
RETURNED IT AND SUBSEQUENTLY
RENEWED THAT THREE TIMES. IT
WASN'T UNTIL LAST YEAR THAT THE
BUREAUS REALIZED, OH, YOU'RE NOT
ACCREDITED, WHICH THEY NEVER HAD
A REASON TO BE BECAUSE THEY WERE
A FREE STANDING LAW SCHOOL, AND
THEY'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR
OVER 100 YEARS. YOU NEED TO GO
THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND SO
THIS IS REALLY JUST A BAND AID
TO GET THEM THROUGH THE
ACCREDITATION PROCESS. AND
MAINTAIN THEIR ACCREDITATION.
AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO
PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS AND WHAT
HAVE YOU, CONSISTENT WITH THAT
OF THE OTHER LAW SCHOOLS IN THE
STATE. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
SEEING NONE. ANY WITNESSES WHO
WANT TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL? SEEING NONE. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. SEEING NONE. ANYBODY WHO
WANTS TO ADD ON IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL, SEEING NONE, BRING IT
BACK TO COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. WE HAVE SEVEN NOW.
WE ARE GROWING. WE ARE STILL
SHORT OF A QUORUM, SENATOR,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION
TODAY. AS MR. MILLER POINTS OUT,
THIS IS THIS IS A VERY NARROW
BILL, AND IT DEALS WITH A VERY
SPECIFIC SITUATION WHICH IS
ALLOWING SOUTHWESTERN THE TIME
TO GET FULLY ACCREDITED, AS THEY
DEAL WITH WITH THE AFTERMATH OF,
OF THIS OMISSION, I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
SENATOR. FUN FACT, ONE OF MY
ROOMMATES, WHEN I WAS LIVING IN
LA GOING TO A DIFFERENT LAW
SCHOOL, WAS GOING TO
SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL. THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY TO ALLOW
SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL TO
CONTINUE CONTRACTING WITH THE
BUREAU FOR PRIVATE POSTSECONDARY
EDUCATION, AS IT HAS DONE SINCE
2015. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES,
WE WILL I WILL HAVE AN I
RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU, MEMBERS. APPRECIATE
IT. SENATOR LAIRD, GOOD TO SEE
YOU, MY FRIEND. YOU'VE GOT
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SB
1064. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
AND MEMBERS, SENATE BILL 1064
AIMS TO MODERNIZE THE STATE'S
CANNABIS LICENSING SYSTEM BY
CLARIFYING THE ROLES OF STATE
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, RECENT
AMENDMENTS IN THE SENATE
ADDRESS, DRAFTING ERRORS AND
DELAY THE BILL'S IMPLEMENTATION
TO 2028 TO SAVE COST. I THINK
THE BEST WAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS
IS TO LOOK AT THE REPORT IN 2023
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS
CONTROL ON THE FOLLOWING
LICENSING TIMES THAT TAKE RIGHT
NOW, IT TAKES 220 DAYS TO GET A
CULTIVATION LICENSE. LICENSE IT
TAKES 851 DAYS TO GET A TESTING
LABORATORY LICENSE. 180 DAYS TO
GET A MANUFACTURING LICENSE, 287
DAYS TO GET A DISTRIBUTION
LICENSE, 183 DAYS TO GET A
RETAILERS LICENSE, 244 DAYS TO
GET A MICROBUSINESS BUSINESS
LICENSE, 153 DAYS FOR AN EVENT.
ORGANIZERS LICENSE. AND SO UNDER
THE CURRENT LAW, STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ROLE IN LICENSING
AND OVERSIGHT OF CANNABIS
BUSINESSES ARE NOT WELL DEFINED.
AND DISTINGUISHED. AS A RESULT,
THE LICENSING REVIEWS CONDUCTED
AT THE STATE OFTEN DUPLICATE THE
REVIEWS BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THIS REALLY CONSOLIDATES IT IN
INDIVIDUAL PERMITS OR LICENSES
AT EACH LEVEL, AND IT'S A COMMON
SENSE APPROACH. WE'RE AVAILABLE
FOR QUESTIONS. I HAVE WITNESSES,
THERE'S NO REGISTERED
OPPOSITION. THERE HAVE BEEN NO
NO VOTES. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING
TO VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS TO
ENSURE THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T
CREATE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
JOINING ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
IS ANDY GORMAN. AMY GORMAN,
O'GORMAN JENKINS, ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION, AND SARAH DUQUETTE,
ON BEHALF OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU. AND AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME, I WOULD
REQUEST AN IPHONE. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH. GOOD
MORNING. CHAIR, COMMITTEE
MEMBERS SARAH DUQUETTE, ON
BEHALF OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA.
AS THE SENATOR STATED, UNDER
CURRENT LAW, THE STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ROLES AND LICENSING
AND OVERSIGHT OF CANNABIS
BUSINESSES ARE NOT WELL DEFINED.
AND WHEN THEY WERE CREATED, THEY
WERE A DUAL PROCESS. SO WITH
THAT, YOU HAVE A LOT OF OVERLAP,
ESPECIALLY ON THE INITIAL
VETTING OF THE APPLICATION AND
THE APPLICANT. SB 1064 WILL
CLARIFY THOSE RULES PERTAINING
TO LICENSING AND REALLY FOCUS
THE STATE LEVEL REVIEW ON THE
OPERATOR AND THE CANNABIS
SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES PERFORMED
AND RETURNING THE LAND USE
REVIEW TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
THIS LEVERAGES THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT'S EXPERTISE, WHICH IS
SETTING STATEWIDE MARKET
STANDARDS AND DETERMINING TIME
AND PLACE AND MANNER TO THE
LOCALS. THE BILL WILL ALSO
SEPARATE THE ENTITY LEVEL REVIEW
INTO AN INITIAL FIRST STEP,
WHICH IS THE OPERATOR LICENSE,
THEN THE LOCAL SITE SPECIFIC
REVIEW, FOLLOWED BY THE SITE
REVIEW, WHICH IS MINISTERIAL BY
THE STATE FOR THE ACTUAL
ACTIVITIES OCCURRING. THIS
ALLOWS THE STATE TO
COMPREHENSIVELY REVIEW THE
BUSINESS ENTITY ONCE RATHER THAN
MULTIPLE TIMES, FOR A NEW
ACTIVITY OR LOCATION IS LICENSED
AND SUPPORT MORE EFFICIENT
OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT. IN
ADDITION, THE OPERATOR LICENSE
CAN BE ISSUED BEFORE THE
BUSINESS HAS SECURITY SITE
LOCATION. THIS MEANS THAT THE
BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO COME
FULLY VETTED TO THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. AND A LOT OF THE
INITIAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE,
LIKE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND OTHER
TYPES OF REVIEWS WE CAN THEN
REMOVE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT THAT. SO HOPEFULLY
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE'LL ALSO
SEE A STREAMLINED PROCESS, UNDER
SB 1064, WE DO HAVE IT DOES NOT
INCLUDE CULTIVATION OR TESTING.
TESTING IS VERY MUCH A STATE
ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF OVERSIGHT,
AND CULTIVATION IS A LITTLE BIT
OF A DIFFERENT BEAST BECAUSE
THERE'S AN INTENSIVE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND IT
INCORPORATES DIFFERENT STATE
AGENCIES. BUT CULTIVATORS WILL
STILL BENEFIT FROM THIS BECAUSE
OF THE STREAMLINED NATURE. IF
THEY RECEIVED A LOCAL LICENSE,
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BE AN
OPERATOR LICENSE IF THEY DECIDE
TO PURSUE A ANOTHER LICENSE,
LIKE A RETAIL OR AN EVENT
ORGANIZER. SO WE DO THINK THAT
THIS WILL HELP IN SOME
SITUATIONS STREAMLINE THE
PROCESS FOR A CULTIVATORS. AND
FOR THOSE REASONS, WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS, AMY
O'GORMAN JENKINS, ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION, A PROUD CO-SPONSOR
WITH OUR CRC, I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR HIS ONGOING
COMMITMENT TO STREAMLINING OUR
LICENSING PROCESS. THIS HAS BEEN
A MULTI YEAR EFFORT ON THE PART
OF THE SENATOR, AS WELL AS FOR
CTIA. WE'VE BEEN REALLY
COMMITTED TO TRYING TO REFINE
CALIFORNIA'S CANNABIS LAWS AND
REGULATIONS. AS YOU WELL KNOW,
AND THIS IS ANOTHER STEP WE FEEL
IS IN A GOOD DIRECTION. THE BILL
ADDRESSES SEVERAL INEFFICIENCIES
THAT I WILL ALSO COVER
EXPERIENCED BY CANNABIS
APPLICANTS AND LICENSEES. ONE
SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IS THE
REDUNDANCY. REDUNDANCY AND THE
LICENSING PROCESS. CURRENTLY,
BUSINESSES MUST UNDERGO MULTIPLE
REVIEWS. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED,
FOR THE SAME CRITERIA, AND IT
HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THIS NOT
ONLY INCREASES ADMINISTRATIVE
COSTS, BUT ALSO COMPLICATES THE
PROCESS FOR BUSINESSES, OFTEN
REQUIRING THEM TO SUBMIT THE
SAME INFORMATION REPEATEDLY TO
TACKLE THESE CHALLENGES, THIS
BILL PROPOSES CLEAR DELINEATIONS
IN RESPONSIBILITIES. IT ASSIGNS
CORE CANNABIS ACTIVITIES TO THE
STATE, WHILE RESERVING LAND USE
AND PERMITTING TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. SB 1064 ALSO AIMS
TO EXPAND LEGAL RETAIL
OPPORTUNITIES BY STREAMLINING
THE LICENSING PROCESS. WE THINK
WE HOPE THAT MORE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS WILL AUTHORIZE
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITY,
INCREASING ACCESS FOR CONSUMERS
TO SAFE, REGULATED PRODUCTS AND
GENERATING ADDITIONAL TAX
REVENUE. LAST, THIS BILL
ADDRESSES FINANCIAL BARRIERS FOR
EQUITY BUSINESS OWNERS BY
REDUCING THE UPFRONT CAPITAL
REQUIRED BEFORE LICENSURE.
CURRENTLY, BUSINESSES NEED TO
SECURE A SITE LOCATION BEFORE
INITIATING THE STATE LICENSING
PROCESS, INCURRING SUBSTANTIAL
COSTS WITHOUT GENERATING
REVENUE. IN CONCLUSION, SB 1064
REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT
ADVANCEMENT IN DISMANTLING
UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO LEGAL
CANNABIS OPERATORS. FOR THESE
REASONS, WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES WHO WANT TO
ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL?
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, ON
BEHALF OF GOOD FARMERS, GREAT
NEIGHBORS BASED IN SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY, WE VIEW THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION MISSION CRITICAL TO
REDUCE DUPLICATION. THANK YOU.
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SAM RODRIGUEZ. MR. CHAIR
MEMBERS. JULIANA MORRIS, ON
BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JARED.
KYLO, ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED
CANNABIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATION,
REPRESENTING RETAILERS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, SEEING
NONE ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, SEEING
NONE. OH, WE OH, WE HAVE A
QUESTION. SOME MEMBERS OF BURR,
IT'S NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION.
IT'S ACTUALLY A COMMENT. I JUST
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL. I'VE GOT A
LOT OF, CANNABIS UPPER OPERATORS
, RETAILERS IN MY DISTRICT. AND
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR ABOUT
A LOT IS THE FACT THAT THE
COMBINATION OF THE STATE AND
LOCAL REGULATORY PROCESSES NEED
STREAMLINING. AND, YOU KNOW, THE
REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS
THIS IS AN EMERGING INDUSTRY.
AND WE WANT THE LEGAL INDUSTRY
TO BE TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE
WANT TO SURVIVE. IT'S BETTER FOR
OUR PUBLIC. IT'S SAFER. THE
REGULATED INDUSTRY IS WHERE WE
WANT PEOPLE. WE WANT TO. WE
DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SORT OF BE
IN THE UNDERGROUND INDUSTRY
BECAUSE THE REGULATORY STRUCTURE
IS SO DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO
COMPLY WITH. SO I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THIS. I THINK IT'S
A IT'S A REALLY TERRIFIC BILL,
AND I'M A STRONG SUPPORT. ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM COLLEAGUES SEEING NONE. I
THOUGHT WE HAD EIGHT. I THINK WE
GOT UP TO EIGHT. AT ONE POINT WE
WERE BACK DOWN TO SEVEN. ALL
DEMOCRATS. WE GET THREE
REPUBLICANS. WE'LL GET A QUORUM.
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE, I'M GOING TO TAKE
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS OF BURR'S
COMMENTS AS MY CLOSE. I'M
GRATEFUL FOR THEM, AND I RESPECT
AND I VOTE AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SENATOR. THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON
THIS BILL AND WORKING TO
SIMPLIFY THE LICENSING PROCESS
FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES. I
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS, AND
WHEN THE TIME COMES, I'LL BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE
IT. NÓ. YEAH. IT'S HER BAD
CHAIR. ASHBY. WHAT BRINGS YOU TO
THE HEARING ROOM TODAY? OH, HALF
THE AGENDA PICK. START WITH
WHICHEVER BILL YOU PREFER.
DEALER'S CHOICE.
YOU HAVE UP FIRST. I HAVE, 1451
PROFESSIONS AND VOCATIONS.
GREAT. LET'S START THERE. SOUNDS
GREAT. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COLLEAGUES, FOR HAVING US HERE
TODAY, SB 1451, AS YOU KNOW, IS
A SUNSET OMNIBUS CLEANUP BILL.
IT'S THE ANNUAL BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS CODE OMNIBUS BILL
THAT MAKES VARIOUS CHANGES TO
THE PRACTICE ACTS OF A NUMBER OF
PROGRAMS, PROGRAMS WHICH HAVE
RECENTLY BEEN SUBJECT TO THIS
COMMITTEE. SUNSET REVIEW
OVERSIGHT PROCESS FOR WHICH I
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
PARTICIPATING IN ASKING. GREAT
QUESTIONS. ALL OF THAT LEADS TO
THIS BILL. THE BILL SPECIFICALLY
CONTAINS PROVISIONS THAT EMPOWER
FEMALE DOMINANT HEALTH
PROFESSIONS TO SAFELY AND
SUCCESSFULLY INCREASE ACCESS TO
CARE FOR CALIFORNIA PATIENTS,
PARTICULARLY IN RURAL AREAS.
I'VE WORKED WITH THE CALIFORNIA
DENTAL ASSOCIATION AND THE
CALIFORNIA DENTAL HYGIENIST
ASSOCIATION ON AMENDMENTS TO
ENSURE THAT PROVIDERS WILL BE
ABLE TO CONNECT AND COLLABORATE,
AND THAT HYGIENISTS WILL ASSIST
THEIR PATIENTS IN GAINING
FURTHER ACCESS TO CRITICAL
DENTAL CARE AND SERVICES
PROVIDED BY A DENTIST, BY
PROVIDING THEM CONTACT
INFORMATION FOR AREA DENTISTS.
THE BILL WAS ALSO RECENTLY
AMENDED TO ENSURE VARIOUS
LICENSED PROFESSIONALS HAVE
ADDITIONAL CLARITY IN THE LAW
SURROUNDING THE TITLE DOCTOR,
WHEN IMPLYING THAT ONE IS A
PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON. WE WILL
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL BOARD AND
THE OSTEOPATHIC PHYSICIANS AND
SURGEONS ON THEIR NEWLY
EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THIS
PORTION OF THE BILL. SB 1451
AMENDS TO REFLECT STAKEHOLDER
INPUT AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER TO ENSURE NURSE
PRACTITIONERS CAN PRACTICE AS
THE LEGISLATURE CLEARLY
INTENDED, THROUGH THE PASSAGE OF
LEGISLATION IN 2020, WE'VE
ACCEPTED AMENDMENTS PROVIDED BY
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION, NUMEROUS AND I
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AS
WELL. THE BILL ALSO MAKES AN
IMPORTANT CLARIFYING CHANGE TO
ENSURE THAT PET OWNERS RECEIVE
INFORMATION ABOUT ANIMAL
MEDICATION THERAPIES, EVEN IF
THEY FILL PRESCRIPTIONS
SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN THEIR
VETERINARY OFFICE, AMONGST OTHER
THINGS. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
AND I VOTE FROM YOUR COMMITTEE.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
THANK YOU. CHAIR. DO YOU HAVE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? I BELIEVE THAT WE DO,
YES. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH.
HI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU. CHAIRMAN BERMAN. MY NAME IS
ELENA FRANCISCO AND I LIVE IN
ESCALON AND HAVE SPENT THE BULK
OF MY 48 YEARS IN DENTAL HYGIENE
PRACTICE IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA.
I'M ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE
REGISTERED DENTAL HYGIENIST AND
ALTERNATIVE PRACTICE WRAP
PROGRAM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF THE
PACIFIC, ARTHUR DUGONI SCHOOL OF
DENTISTRY. I AM ALSO AN RD ÁP.
THERE'S A GREAT NEED FOR WRAPS
TO PROVIDE PATIENT CARE IN THE
MANY DENTAL DESERTS OF
CALIFORNIA. AND DR. ÁP IS A
DENTAL HYGIENIST WHO IS EDUCATED
AND LICENSED TO PROVIDE DENTAL
HYGIENE CARE IN AREAS WHERE
THERE IS A LACK OF ACCESS OF
DENTAL CARE. WE CAN TREAT
PATIENTS WITH PHYSICAL AND OR
COGNITIVE DISABILITIES IN THEIR
HOMES, SCHOOLS, RESIDENTIAL AND
OTHER LIVING FACILITIES, DENTAL
OFFICES, AND IN FREESTANDING
DENTAL HYGIENE OFFICES AND THAT
ARE SET UP IN DENTAL
PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREAS.
DIPSOS WRAPS ARE A VITAL LINK
BETWEEN THESE PATIENTS AND THEIR
DENTAL HOME. CONNECTING PATIENTS
TO A DENTIST WHO IS WILLING TO
TREAT THEM. WRAPS SEE PATIENTS
REGARDLESS OF THE INSURANCE
COVERAGE AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF
OUR PRACTICE, DIPSOS ARE IN
RURAL, URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS
WHERE THERE IS A LACK OF DENTAL
PROFESSIONALS IN RELATION TO THE
POPULATION. WE NEED ALL TYPES OF
DENTAL PROVIDERS IN THE MANY
DENTAL DESERTS IN CALIFORNIA. WE
SUPPORT AMENDING THE STATUTE TO
GRANDFATHER IN THE WRAPS WITH
BRICK AND MORTAR PRACTICES IN
DESERT AREAS. IF THE IF THE
DIPSA AREA DESIGNATION IS
REMOVED, THIS FIX WILL ALLOW
WRAPS TO CONTINUE TO SEE THEIR
PATIENTS IN THEIR PRACTICES AND
REMOVES A BARRIER TO WRAPS.
INVESTING IN THESE AREAS. WE
REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR SENATE
BILL 1451. I'M AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF
PAUSE TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM THAT
WILL LAST FIVE SECONDS. BUT ONCE
WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE IT. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
BERMAN HERE. FLORA ALANIS BANES,
JUAN CARILLO CHEN. DIXON,
GRAYSON. IRWIN JACKSON LOW.
LOWENTHAL. MCKENNA HIÆN.
PELLERIN SANCHEZ. SORIA ZIPPER.
WE HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT. PLEASE
CONTINUE. TWO MINUTES. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR BERMAN,
THE COMMITTEE, SENATOR ASHBY,
I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TODAY.
MY NAME IS SORANI BAUER-KAHAN.
I'M A NURSE PRACTITIONER. I'VE
BEEN PRACTICING IN A VERY RURAL
COMMUNITY OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AT THE RUSSIAN RIVER HEALTH
CLINIC FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS, IT
IS, AS I TELL PEOPLE, MY SOLE
JOB, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SEVERAL
OTHER JOBS TO PAY MY BILLS, I'D
LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK THE
STAFF FOR THE ANALYSIS OF SENATE
BILL 1451. AMAZING JOB. VERY,
VERY WELL DONE. I'D LIKE TO JUST
SHARE THAT WITH ANYBODY WHO HAS
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BILL, I
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FIX
THE ISSUES THAT SENATOR ASHBY
HAS INDICATED IN THIS BILL,
BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING INTO
MAJOR BARRIERS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WITH MANY OF OUR
PHYSICIAN COLLEAGUES ESSENTIALLY
REFUSING TO ATTEST FOR NURSE
PRACTITIONERS TO BECOME 103
LICENSED BECAUSE THEY'RE
CONFUSED AND FRANKLY WORRIED
ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEIR
PRACTICE, THINKING THAT THEY'LL
BE BROUGHT IN FOR A COURT CASE
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THIS
PARTICULAR NURSE PRACTITIONER.
SO JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SOME OF
THE MANY THAT I HAVE BEEN
HELPING NURSE PRACTITIONERS DEAL
WITH FOR THE PAST FOUR AND A
HALF YEARS SINCE THIS BILL HAS
BEEN APPROVED IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THE BERN HAS BEEN
WORKING ON IMPLEMENTATION. I
WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE
THAT HAS COME OUT OF THE WORK
THAT THE NTP ADVISORY COMMITTEE
HAS CREATED, AND I FEEL THAT
THIS BILL WILL CLARIFY MANY OF
THESE CONFUSING STATEMENTS THAT
HAVE COME OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE
WORK. MPS ACROSS THE STATE WANT
TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS IN
CALIFORNIA, AND MANY OF THEM ARE
PREVENTED FROM DOING THAT VERY
THING BECAUSE OF THE BARRIERS
THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CLARIFY
WITH THIS PARTICULAR BILL. SO MY
GOAL IS TO BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS
IF THERE ARE ANY. AND ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT IN PASSING THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
YOU WANT TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL? ANY ADD ONS AND
SUPPORT? JENNIFER TANNEHILL WITH
THE AARON REED AND ASSOCIATES ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA DENTAL
HYGIENISTS ASSOCIATION, TOTALLY
SUPPORT THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, STEPHANIE
GORDILLO. I'M AN ÁP AND OWNER OF
SMILE ESSENTIALS, BRICK AND
MORTAR DENTAL HYGIENE PRACTICE
IN HAYWARD AND ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MORNING, MATT LAZAR WITH SEIU IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY
NAME IS SOLOMON STOOP. I
REPRESENT THE LIZZIE INITIATIVE
FOR PET PROTECTION, AND I NOT
ONLY STRONGLY, BUT VERY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU,
SENATOR ASHBY, AND THANK YOU TO
ALL THE HARDWORKING MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF. AND
EVERYBODY IS WONDERFUL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE'RE JUST GOING TO END
THE HEARING WITH THAT. AND GOOD
NIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. SARAH BRIDGE, ON BEHALF
OF THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
HEALTH CARE DISTRICTS AND
LEADING AGE CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MISTER CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MARY
MCCUNE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
DENTAL ASSOCIATION WANTED TO
REALLY THANK CHAIR ASHBY AND
COMMITTEE STAFF WITH THE
AMENDMENTS AND BALANCING THE
PERCEIVED NEEDS OF THE HYGIENIST
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF CONNECTING
THE COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL CARE.
CDA IS NOW IN A NEUTRAL
POSITION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? COME ON UP. YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES EACH FOR THE FIRST
TWO OF YOU THROUGH THE GATE.
THERE IT IS. GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS GEORGE SOROS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE SB
1451 BY SENATOR ASHBY UNLESS
AMENDED. FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO
THANK THE SENATOR AND HER STAFF
FOR THE COLLABORATION ON THIS
BILL. THUS FAR. WE UNDERSTAND
THE VARIOUS PROVISIONS IN THIS
BILL. MAKE IT COMPLEX, BUT WE
LOOK FORWARD TO RESOLVING OUR
CONCERNS IN THE COMING WEEKS.
CMA HAS TWO PRIMARY CONCERNS
REMAINING WITH THIS BILL. THIS
BILL ELIMINATES THE REQUIREMENT
THAT A NURSE PRACTITIONER MUST
COMPLETE A VARIATION OF A THREE
YEAR TRAINING REQUIREMENT IN ONE
OF SIX DIFFERENT MEDICAL
SPECIALTY CATEGORIES. WE BELIEVE
THIS REQUIREMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO
GUARANTEE CLINICAL PROFICIENCY
FOR AN INDEPENDENTLY PRACTICING
NURSE PRACTITIONER. SECOND, WE
HAVE CONCERNS RELATED TO
INDEPENDENTLY PRACTICING NURSE
PRACTITIONERS FROM OTHER STATES
BEING APPROVED FOR INDEPENDENT
PRACTICE IN CALIFORNIA. WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE REMOVAL
OF THIS FROM THE BILL. LANGUAGE
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION
OF OUR CONCERNS AND REQUESTS.
OUR AMENDMENTS ARE ACCEPTED TO
ENSURE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
PATIENT SAFETY. I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. YEAH. GOOD MORNING,
MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS, MONICA
MILLER, REPRESENTING THE
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF NURSE
PRACTITIONERS. AND WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL, UNLESS AMENDED. AND
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR ALL OF HER
AND HER STAFF'S WORK ON
CORRECTING THE LEGACY ISSUE ON
BEHALF OF THE NURSE
PRACTITIONERS. WE THINK THAT
THAT'S SO CRITICAL, AND WE
REALLY WISH IT HAD HAPPENED,
WITH THE INITIAL LEGISLATION, AB
890, BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY
CONTINUING TO CORRECT THAT SOME
OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE AND WE
CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE
AMENDMENTS THAT SHE'S PUT
FORWARD AS OF JUNE 19TH.
HOWEVER, SOME OF OUR REMAINING
CONCERNS ARE AROUND THE ISSUES
RELATED TO WHEN A NURSE
PRACTITIONER IDENTIFIES
THEMSELVES AS A FAMILY PRACTICE
BOARD CERTIFIED, IN IDENTIFYING
THEMSELVES WITH THAT TITLE. IT'S
ON. IT'S CONSIDERED A
MISDEMEANOR, AND A LOT OF THE
NURSE PRACTITIONERS HAVE REACHED
OUT TO THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION
OF NPS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT
PRACTICING IN CALIFORNIA. A LOT
OF OUR, NURSE PRACTITIONERS THAT
HOPE TO GO ON TO PRACTICE
INDEPENDENTLY WITH THE 103 AND
104 PERMIT AS IT IS, HOPE TO
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS
CLARIFIED. THEY ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE MISDEMEANOR PORTION OF
THAT. AND REALLY WE WANT TO KEEP
PROVIDERS IN CALIFORNIA. WE
THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THERE'S
SUCH A CRITICAL PROVIDER
SHORTAGE. AND SO WE HOPE TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
SENATOR ON THIS AND, AND SOME
OTHER ISSUES AS, AGAIN, WE
REVIEW THE AMENDMENTS THAT SHE'S
PUT FORWARD, AND REALLY WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR FOR HER TIME
AND APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
ATTENTION TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES YOU WANT TO
ADD ON IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? JUST PROVIDE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION. YOU'RE WITH ANY
PRAISE FOR THE STAFF AND
POSITION ON THE BILL. GOOD
MORNING. YES, PRAISE TO THE
STAFF AND EVERYBODY ON THIS
COMMITTEE. TERRY THORFINNSSON
WITH THE OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
OPPOSITION. I'D LIKE TO THANK
SENATOR ASHBY FOR HER
WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US ON
OUR CONCERNS RELATED TO TITLE
PROTECTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS, DON SHINSKY, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA SOCIETY OF
DERMATOLOGY AND DERMATOLOGIC
SURGERY, WE'RE IN AN OPPOSED,
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
YOU, GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. TYLER. MINDY, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION WITH THE MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS, WE'VE REMOVED OUR
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS, MATT BACK
REPRESENTING THE OSTEOPATHIC
PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS OF
CALIFORNIA. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU ON THAT ISSUE
OF OSTEOPATH. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION OR WIENER NEUTRALITY?
SEEING NONE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
COLLEAGUES? ASSEMBLYMEMBERS
ZUBIATE. SO I WANT TO
CONGRATULATE THE AUTHOR AND
TAKING ON SUCH A HUGE BILL, I'VE
GOT TO ADMIT THAT I CALLED OUR
CHAIR LAST WEEK BECAUSE I WAS,
SO BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH IN
IT AND BECAUSE THERE WERE ISSUES
FOR DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS THAT
WERE CUTTING IN DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS FOR ME. AND I THOUGHT
THAT IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK TO
SORT OF DO THESE KIND OF OMNIBUS
BILLS WHERE YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON
DIFFERENT THINGS, WHERE YOU
KNOW, I MAY AGREE WITH ONE
PROFESSION IN ONE SET OF AREAS
WITH AND OTHERS ON OTHERS, I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY
BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED
AT HOW MUCH PROGRESS YOU'VE MADE
IN THE LAST WEEK, WHICH IS A
VERY IMPRESSIVE THING. BUT I'M
HOPEFUL WE DON'T HAVE THESE
KINDS OF BILLS THAT ARE SO BROAD
BECAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY
DIFFICULT TO SORT OF HAVE TO
MAKE A CHOICE WHERE YOU'VE GOT
IT. YOU KNOW, 90% OF IT. RIGHT?
BUT YOU'VE GOT ONE PROFESSION
WHERE YOU AGREED WITH THAT OTHER
PROFESSION. SO THAT WAS REALLY
IT'S REALLY SORT OF THE QUESTION
OF SORT OF THAT DILEMMA THAT IT
PUTS US IN. I THINK, BUT I
THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN A
HEROIC WAY WITH SOME OF THE
AREAS THAT I HAD STRONG CONCERNS
ABOUT. AND, AND JUST WITH THAT
COMMENT, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND
ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH SOME OF THE
OPPONENTS. AND GIVEN WHAT YOU'VE
DONE IN THE LAST WEEK, I
ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF OPTIMISM
THAT YOU MAY ACTUALLY END UP
GETTING TO A PLACE WITHOUT
WITHOUT OPPOSITION. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
CHAIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
YEAH I JUST I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS. ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW
THIS IS IF ANYBODY'S WATCHING.
WELCOME. WELCOME TO OUR WORLD OF
SERVING ON BPD. THIS IS, YOU
COULD NOT PAY ME ENOUGH TO DO
THIS WOMAN'S JOB RIGHT HERE. ALL
CREDIT IS TO HER. AND I THINK
MOST OF YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH
TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE ALL
GROUPS THAT I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT.
I'M TRYING VERY HARD TO GET EACH
OF THEM AS CLOSE AS I CAN, BUT
SOMETIMES THEIR ISSUES ARE AT
ODDS WITH EACH OTHER, SO IT IS
DEFINITELY A BALANCING ACT. I
APPRECIATE YOU WALKING THROUGH
THE JOURNEY WITH US. YOU KNOW ME
. YOU KNOW THIS COMMITTEE STAFF
WILL KEEP WORKING ON IT AS LONG
AS THERE ARE, DAYS LEFT ON THE
CALENDAR AND BREATH LEFT IN MY
LUNGS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
ON IT. I URGE AN AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CHAIR
ASHBY. I HAVE NO DOUBT THIS
HORNET'S NEST WAS EXACTLY WHAT
YOU WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO
AUTHORING WHEN YOU BECAME CHAIR
OF SENATE BPD, I WANT TO FIRST
RECOGNIZE THAT WHILE THERE ARE
MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS
BILL, ALL OF IT IS THE RESULT OF
HARD WORK BY YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF, TO ADDRESS MANY
OUTSTANDING POLICY ISSUES THAT
HAVE COME BEFORE OUR COMMITTEES
FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND AS WE'VE
HEARD TODAY, GROUPS WHO LOVE ONE
PROVISION OF THE BILL MAY OPPOSE
ANOTHER AND VICE VERSA. AND I
KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TO
FIND AS MUCH CONSENSUS AS YOU
CAN AND AS YOU THINK IS
APPROPRIATE. AND WITH THAT, I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY. AND I THANK YOU AND YOUR
TEAM AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS
MEASURE. MADAM, WE NEED A MOTION
AND A SECOND. ANY MOTIONS? GOT A
MOTION? GOT A SECOND. IT TURNS
OUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHO
DOES THE MOTION IN SECOND. I
JUST LEARNED THAT THE OTHER DAY.
OH, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL
THE VOTE ON SB 1451. ASHBY. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN A BERMAN I FLORA FLORA I
ALANIS BAINS. BAINS. NO. JUAN
CARRILLO. JUAN CARRILLO I CHEN.
DIXON. GRAYSON IRWIN. IRWIN I
JACKSON. LOW, LOW I. LOWENTHAL
MCKENNA. HIÆN WHEN I PELLERIN.
PELLERIN I SANCHEZ. SORIA. SORIA
I ZAPPA. THE BURR I. THAT BILL
HAS NINE VOTES. WE'LL LEAVE IT
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO JUST GO IN NUMERICAL
ORDER? SURE. NEXT IS 1452
ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTURE. SURE. I DO WANT TO
THANK ALL THOSE WITNESSES FOR
BEING HERE. APPRECIATE THEM
COMING AND ABSOLUTELY. AND
TESTIFYING. ALL RIGHT. LET'S
MOVE ON TO 1452. THIS IS,
ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTURE. AND WE HAVE A
MOTION ALREADY. WE'LL GET A
SECOND LATER. ALL RIGHT. LET'S
DO IT, THIS IS AGAIN, A SUNSET
REVIEW REPORT. AND THE BILL
SPECIFICALLY MAKES TECHNICAL
CHANGES, INCLUDING EXTENDING THE
ARCHITECT'S BOARD ADMINISTRATIVE
AUTHORITY OVER THE PRACTICE ACT
TO 2029, REQUIRING AN APPLICANT
FOR EXAMINATION OR LICENSURE AS
A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO HAS A
VALID EMAIL ADDRESS TO REPORT TO
THE BOARD THAT EMAIL ADDRESS AT
THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION
HELPS WITH COMMUNICATION,
REQUIRING AN EXISTING LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECT LICENSEE WHO HAS A
VALID EMAIL ADDRESS TO REPORT TO
THE BOARD THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS
UPON RENEWAL AS WELL, AND
PROHIBITING THE APPLICANT AND
LICENSEE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM
DISCLOSURE. THIS SUNSET BILL
ENJOYS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, HAS
RECEIVED NO. NO VOTES HERE
SUPPORTING IS LAURA ZUNIGA, THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE BOARD.
SHE. I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WANTS
TO MAKE COMMENTS OR JUST BE
AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. UP TO
YOU ALL IF YOU WANT, YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES. GOOD MORNING, LAURA
ZUNIGA WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ARCHITECTS BOARD. I JUST WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR, HER STAFF AND
THIS COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
WORK ON OUR SUNSET REVIEW. WE
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL? THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIR, JASON EICHORN,
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL, THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, CASELLA AS
THE NAME IMPLIES, CASELLA
REPRESENTS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS
IN CALIFORNIA. JUST WANTED TO
BRIEFLY THANK SENATOR ASHBY
YOURSELF AND OBVIOUSLY THE CHAIR
OF THE STAFF OF BOTH COMMITTEES
FOR THE WORK ON THIS, SUNSET
EXTENSION. IT ALSO EXTENDS THE
SUNSET FOR THE LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTS TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
AND, IMPORTANTLY, PROPOSES A
PATH FORWARD TO KIND OF LOOK AT
THE COMPOSITION OF CAB AND LATKE
GOING FORWARD. AND JUST BRIEFLY
ON THAT. WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF
THE EFFORT TO GET MORE DATA AND
INFORMATION. REGULATION OF THE
PROFESSION IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE
ARE EXAMPLES OF, FOR INSTANCE,
POOR PLAYGROUND DESIGN THAT HAS
LED TO PARALYSIS OF PEOPLE USING
IT AND INCLUDING CHILDREN.
IMPROPER PLACEMENT OF PLANTS
THAT ARE TOXIC COULD BE
DANGEROUS. AND MORE BROADLY,
THIS PROFESSION IN MANY CASES,
THE CONSUMER IS ACTUALLY THE
COMMUNITY AT LARGE. OUR PROJECTS
ARE COMMUNITY SCALE. WE MANAGE
STORMWATER FLOWS TO PREVENT
DAMAGE TO PROPERTY. WE MANAGE
WILDFIRE RESILIENCE, COASTAL SEA
LEVEL RISE, ALL OF IT. SO AT ANY
RATE, WE APPRECIATE THE
CONTINUED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
PROFESSIONAL COMPETENCY READY TO
REGULATE THE PROFESSION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADD ONS IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
SEEING NONE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL, SEEING NONE. ANY ADD ONS
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. BRING
IT BACK TO COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. GOD, THE SECOND, I
JUST WANT TO CONFIRM YOU'RE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIR ASHBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I LOVE THAT CLOSE. THANK
YOU. SENATOR ASHBY. Ã CHAIR
ASHBY, THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY
SUNSET BILLS THAT WE WILL BE
HEARING TODAY. AND I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT IT. CONTINUED OVERSIGHT
AND REGULATION OF ARCHITECTS IS
VITALLY IMPORTANT GIVEN THE
POTENTIAL FOR HARM. LIKE WE
HEARD ABOUT TO THE PUBLIC'S
HEALTH AND SAFETY. I'D LIKE TO
THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR
YOUR COLLABORATION, AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK
TOGETHER. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON SB 1452.
ASHBY. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, TO THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY. BERMAN A BERMAN I
FLORA LARA. AYE. ALANIS BAINES.
BAINES I JUAN CARRILLO, JUAN
CARRILLO I CHEN DIXON. GRAYSON.
IRWIN, IRWIN I JACKSON. LOWE,
LOW I LOWENTHAL, MCKENNA. HIÆN
WEN I PELLERIN. PELLERIN, I
SANCHEZ. SORIA. SORIA I ZEBRA.
ZEBRA I. GREAT. THAT BUILDS OUT.
WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
COLLEAGUES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BILL? SURE.
HOW ABOUT 1454? THIS IS THE GET.
IS ANY GOOD? ALL RIGHT. BUREAU
OF SECURITY AND INVESTIGATION
SERVICES. CHAIRMAN. THIS BILL IS
ALSO A SUNSET EXTENSION BILL. IT
ADDRESSES ISSUES DISCUSSED
DURING THE PROGRAM SUNSET REVIEW
HEARING, WHICH YOU ALL
PARTICIPATED IN. SPECIFICALLY,
THE BILL WOULD EXTEND THE
BUREAU'S ADMINISTRATIVE
AUTHORITY OVER THE SIX PRACTICE
ACTS UNDER ITS PURVIEW BY FOUR
YEARS TO 2029. THESE INCLUDE THE
ACTS REGULATING LOCKSMITHS,
COLLATERAL RECOVERY ACT, THE
PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS ACT,
PROPRIETARY SECURITY SERVICES
ACT, PRIVATE SECURITY SERVICES
ACT, AND THE ALARM COMPANY ACT.
HERE WITH ME IS LEN JENSEN, THE
BUREAU CHIEF FOR THE BUREAU OF
SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE
SERVICES, FOR TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE THEM. AND
CHARLES WRIGHT, A CONSULTANT FOR
THE SAN MANUEL BAND OF MISSION
INDIANS, AS A PRIMARY WITNESS IN
SUPPORT. GREAT. YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH. HI. MY NAME IS
LYNN JENSEN. I'M THE CHIEF OF
THE BUREAU OF SECURITY AND
INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES, AND I AM
HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE
BILL. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS, CHARLES WRIGHT, ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN MANUEL BAND OF
MISSION INDIANS, SB 1454 WOULD
CLARIFY CALIFORNIA TRIBES
ABILITY TO OBTAIN PRIVATE
SECURITY RELATED REGISTRATIONS
AND LICENSES FOR OFF RESERVATION
ACTIVITIES. THE SAME AS ANY
OTHER NON-TRIBAL ENTITY. THE
BUREAU OF SECURITY AND
INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES REGULATES
SECURITY PERSONNEL THROUGH
PROPRIETARY SECURITY SERVICES
ACT AND THE PRIVATE SECURITY
ACT. CURRENTLY, NEITHER ACT
CONTEMPLATES NOR CONSIDERS
TRIBAL ENTITIES. THE APPLICATION
PROCESS FOR PROPRIETARY PRIVATE
SECURITY EMPLOYERS, PRIVATE
PATROL OPERATORS, AND BATON AND
FIREARMS TRAINING FACILITIES ARE
STRUCTURED TO ACCOMMODATE
NATURAL PERSONS AND BUSINESS
ENTITIES. ONLY ELIGIBLE
APPLICANTS INCLUDE INDIVIDUALS,
FIRMS, COMPANIES, PARTNERSHIPS,
CORPORATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND
ASSOCIATIONS, BUT NOT TRIBES,
AND THE EXEMPTIONS FOR
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SUCH AS
CITIES AND COUNTIES DO NOT
INCLUDE TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS
EITHER. BECAUSE OF THIS
OMISSION, BCIS IS UNABLE TO
APPROPRIATELY ISSUE A
REGISTRATION OR LICENSE TO
TRIBAL ENTITIES FOR SECURITY
RELATED ACTIVITY, OFF
RESERVATION OR TRUST LANDS. THIS
OMISSION HAS CREATED ISSUES MANY
TRIBES ARE FORCED TO CONDUCT
SOME OPERATIONS OFF TRIBAL LAND
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM
ON THEIR RESERVATION AND TRUST
LAND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY
CANNOT OBTAIN APPROPRIATE
SECURITY LICENSING FROM THE
STATE BECAUSE THERE IS LITERALLY
NO BOX FOR THEM TO CHECK ON THE
RELEVANT APPLICATIONS. TRIBES
ARE SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND
HAVE RIGHTS OF SELF-GOVERNANCE
THAT THE CURRENT APPLICANT
CATEGORIES DO NOT HAVE. THE
CURRENT APPLICANT CATEGORIES DO
NOT CAPTURE THE GOVERNMENTAL
NATURE OF TRIBES OR THEIR RIGHT
OF SELF-GOVERNANCE. SIMPLY PUT,
TRIBES DO NOT FIT INTO ANY OF
THE CURRENT APPLICATION BOXES.
THIS BILL WOULD CLARIFY THAT
TRIBES MAY OBTAIN LICENSING
APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR OFF
RESERVATION ACTIVITY. LIKE OTHER
NON TRIBAL ENTITIES, WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 1454. THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
? MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE,
CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR PAULA TREAT
ON BEHALF OF THE COLUSA, TEJON
AND PECHANGA RESERVATIONS IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, TRENT SMITH, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ALARM
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL? SEEING
NONE, WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A
COUPLE SECONDS. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES, ANY PRIMARY WITNESS
IN OPPOSITION OR ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION? PRIMARY WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION. COME ON UP. COME ON
UP TO THE DAIS. YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. TWO MINUTES EACH,
WHEREVER YOU WANT. YEAH THERE'S
ROOM. PLEASE. PRESS THE WHITE
BUTTON IN FRONT OF YOU THERE.
NOPE. NOT THIS ONE. THERE YOU
GO. HI. I FEEL LIKE A LITTLE KID
AT THE THANKSGIVING TABLE HERE.
MY NAME IS FRANK KOHLER. I'M A
PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF LICENSED
INVESTIGATORS AND THE CURRENT
LEGISLATIVE CHAIR OF THE
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS CHAIR. I JUST
WANT TO SAY THAT, KELLY DOES
SUPPORT PROVISIONS THAT ENHANCE
THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ACT,
BUT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE
THE INSERTION OF SEX SECTION, IT
IS 75, 24, I BELIEVE, AND IT AS
BEING OVERLY BROAD AND IN SOME
CASES UNENFORCEABLE. LONG TERM
CLIENT RELATIONSHIPS,
SPECIFICALLY CIVIL AND CRIMINAL
ATTORNEYS, INSURANCE COMPANIES
AND BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS. ARE
PROBLEMATIC FOR US BECAUSE WE
HAVE ONGOING CASES WITH THEM.
SOME CRIMINAL CASES ARE,
APPOINTED BY THE COURT OR
APPOINTED BY A COURT APPOINTED
PANEL. AND THAT IS THERE'S NO
CONTRACTS ALLOWED WITH THAT,
WITH THOSE KIND OF CASES, CASES
INVOLVING ATTORNEYS AND
INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE ALSO
PROHIBITED FROM PROVIDING
REPORTS FOR THE BUREAU TO REVIEW
IN CASE THERE'S A COMPLAINT. SO
THAT WOULD BE UNENFORCEABLE.
IT'S WORK PRODUCT. SO I ASK FOR,
YOUR VOTE TO OPPOSE THE
INSERTION OF SECTION 7524. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME
IS FRANK HUNTINGTON. I'M PROUD
TO BE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF
CALI, THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF LICENSED INVESTIGATORS. WE
ARE THE LARGEST PRIVATE
INVESTIGATOR ASSOCIATION IN THE
WORLD, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BUREAU,
WITH THE CHIEF ANDRUS, WHICH WE
ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF. AND WE
OVERALL SUPPORT SB 1454. THANK
YOU, SENATOR ASHBY. HOWEVER,
THIS ONE, SECTION 7524 WAS JUST
INSERTED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I
HAD ONE BOARD MEMBER WHEN HE
HEARD ABOUT IT, SAID IT'S LIKE
TAKING A SLEDGEHAMMER TO A GRAIN
OF RICE, WE ABSOLUTELY MATTER OF
FACT, I CAN SAY THAT CALI AND
OUR PROFESSION ARE MORE UPSET AT
ILLEGITIMATE INVESTIGATORS AND
PEOPLE THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE CONSUMER THAN PERHAPS EVEN
THE BUREAU. CALI PROVIDES
TRAINING TWICE A YEAR TO NEWLY
LICENSED INVESTIGATORS. AND A
GOOD PART OF THAT TRAINING THAT
ACTUALLY, MISS KEELER PUTS ON IS
ETHICS, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE
BUREAU TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT.
WE WANT TO HAVE CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS, WE JUST THINK THAT
7520 FOR THAT ONE PARTICULAR
SECTION IS WAY OVERLY BROAD. AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE SENATOR AND HER STAFF TO
CLEAN THAT UP TO EVERYBODY'S
SATISFACTION. HOPEFULLY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, SEEING
NONE BRING IT BACK TO COLLEAGUES
FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. AYE.
YES, SIR. SOME MEMBER LOWE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR,
AND I THINK, JUST AS A
STATEMENT, THE COMMITTEE WOULD
TYPICALLY GIVE GREAT DEFERENCE
TO THE RESPECTIVE CHAIRS OF THE
SENATE AND ASSEMBLY, AND WORKING
THROUGH MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT
ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO SUNSET
AND A NUMBER OF SUBSTANTIVE
ISSUES, BUT PERHAPS, THOSE, I
DON'T KNOW IF THE APPROPRIATE
STAFF PERSONS OR MAYBE THE
AUTHOR ARE PRESENTING BEFORE US
MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
ISSUE AT HAND IN OPPOSITION. BUT
ALSO PERHAPS A WILLINGNESS TO
FURTHER WORK ON THIS. SHOULD THE
SUNSET BILL MOVE FORWARD AS
WELL. SURE. A COUPLE THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, THESE
BNP BILLS ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS
ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FINISH
LINE. AND AS YOU HEARD BOTH OF
THE LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
HERE, PROBABLY PRETTY HAPPY WITH
MOST OF THE BILL AND HAVE A
COUPLE CONCERNS WITH SOME
PIECES. THE PIECE THAT THEY'RE
REFERRING TO, WHICH WE CAN
CERTAINLY HAVE THE BUREAU CHIEF
ADDRESS MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF
YOU WANT SOME DETAIL, IS REALLY
ABOUT HOW YOU NAVIGATE A
RELATIONSHIP THAT WENT SOUTH.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS ON
THE FRONT END TO HAVE SOME FORM
OF A SCOPE OF WORK, A CONTRACT
TO THEN LEAN BACK ON, NOT
UNUSUAL FOR ALL OF OUR VARIOUS
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS. FOR US
TO HELP PREVENT HAVING TO
MITIGATE THINGS ON THE BACK END
BY MAKING THEM CLEAR ON THE
FRONT END THAT SAID, IS THERE
ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, YES.
THANK YOU. CHAIR. WE HAVE
DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE WITH THE
PIS NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE
YEARS. WE HAVE SUGGESTED THAT
THEY RUN THEIR OWN BILL ON THIS.
AND WHEN THEY, SEVERAL YEARS
WENT PAST AND THEY DID NOT DO
IT, WE STEPPED FORWARD. AND WE
ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHOR AND GIVE TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
MAY MAY I, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP,
THEN, TO AS I HEARD ABOUT THE
WILLINGNESS AND ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT THE SUNSET IS SUBSTANTIVE
AND MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT OF COURSE, THE WILLINGNESS
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE POTENTIAL
CONCERN, UNDERSTANDING THE
HISTORICAL CONTEXT FROM THE
BUREAU ITSELF AND ASKING
LICENSED INVESTIGATORS TO RUN
THEIR OWN BILL. BUT GIVEN THAT
THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS IS IN THE
FORMATION OF THE SUNSET BILL,
THE AUTHOR WILLING TO
CONTINUALLY WORK WITH, YES, OF
COURSE WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING.
BUT I THINK HER POINT WAS NOT
THAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO THEIR
OWN BILL. NOW, I THINK HER POINT
WAS FOR MANY YEARS THEY HAD
SUGGESTED THAT THEY DO THEIR OWN
BELT AND IN THE ABSENCE OF THEM
DOING THEIR OWN BILL, IT HAS
BEEN ADDED TO THE SUNSET BILL
BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A ROSE TO
THE TOP FOR THE BUREAU AS A
PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT NEEDED TO
BE ADDRESSED. BUT WORKING ON THE
DETAILS OF HOW THAT UNFOLDS IS
SOMETHING WE'LL ABSOLUTELY
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THESE
INDIVIDUALS ON. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, SENATOR. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? CHAIR,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE URGENT.
I VOTE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
APPRECIATE IT. I AM I'M STILL
DEBATING INTERNALLY WHETHER OR
NOT A GRAIN OF RICE COULD HANDLE
A POUND FROM A SLEDGEHAMMER. I
THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOW DRY THAT
GRAIN OF RICE IS, IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE
SUPPORTING THE WORK OF THE
BUREAU AND ENSURE THAT THE
SECURITY AND INVESTIGATION
PROFESSIONS ARE WELL REGULATED.
WELL, I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW
OUTSTANDING ITEMS TO TWEAK
BEFORE THIS REACHES THE
GOVERNOR'S DESK. WAS DISCUSSED.
I AM CONFIDENT THAT OUR JOINT
COMMITTEE STAFFS WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH AFFECTED
STAKEHOLDERS TO TWEAK LANGUAGE
AS AND IF NECESSARY, AND I'M
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DO WE
HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND? WE DO
, WE DO. THAT'S FANTASTIC. CAN I
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON SB 1454?
ASHBY. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN. BERMAN.
I FLORA LARA I ALANIS BAINES.
BAINES I JUAN. CARRILLO. JUAN
CARRILLO I CHEN. DIXON GRAYSON.
IRWIN. IRWIN I JACKSON. LOW.
LOWE I LOWENTHAL. MCKENNA. HIÆN
WEN I PELLERIN. PELLERIN, I
SANCHEZ. SORIA. SORIA I ZIPPER.
ZIPPER I. THAT BILL IS OUT.
WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
COLLEAGUES. LET'S KEEP IT
ROLLING. ALL RIGHT. 1455, THIS
IS THE CONTRACTORS. STATE
LICENSE BOARD. GOT A MOTION IN A
SECOND. ALSO, A SUNSET EXTENSION
BILL. THIS BILL MAKES MULTIPLE
CHANGES TO EXISTING LAW,
INCLUDING EXTENDING THE
OPERATIONS OF THE LICENSE BOARD
AND ITS AUTHORITY TO APPOINT A
REGISTRAR OF CONTRACTORS BY FOUR
YEARS, AGAIN TO 2029. CHANGING
THE EXAM FEE SCHEDULE TO ALLOW
LICENSE APPLICANTS TO PAY THE
EXAM PROVIDER DIRECTLY.
ESTABLISHING A ROUTE FOR
FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES IN
CALIFORNIA TO BECOME LICENSED
CONTRACTORS. I SHOULD, BY THE
WAY, JUST DO A QUICK SHOUT OUT
HERE THAT THERE IS AN AMAZING
SENATE STAFFER NAMED FAUNA WHO
WORKED VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH
ALL OF THESE TRIBAL ISSUES AND
HAS SPENT MANY, MANY HOURS
MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDED THESE
COMPONENTS TO THESE SUNSET
PROVISIONS. SHE'S A SUPERSTAR.
SHE HAS SHE HAS SOLELY HANDLED
THAT ISSUE. THIS BILL ALSO
AUTHORIZES THE CONTRACT LICENSE
BOARD TO RECOUP ENFORCEMENT
EXPENSES WHEN IT MUST USE AN
INDUSTRY EXPERT TO REVIEW AND
ASSESS CONSUMER COMPLAINTS. IT
CLARIFIES THAT AN AWARDING
AUTHORITY FOR A PUBLIC CONTRACT
MUST ABIDE BY THE CURRENT
CLASSIFICATION. UNDER THE
CONTRACTOR STATE LICENSE LAW, IT
PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEAR
DELAY FOR THE REQUIREMENT THAT
ALL CONTRACTORS, REGARDLESS OF
EMPLOYEE STATUS, OBTAIN WORKERS
COMPENSATION COVERAGE AND CREATE
CRITERIA, WHICH ALLOWS LICENSEES
WITH NO EMPLOYEES TO BE EXEMPT
FROM THE WORKERS COMPENSATION
REQUIREMENT. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE
HERE. THE CHANGES IN THIS BILL
AIM TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL
OPERATIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR'S
LICENSE BOARD AND ENSURE A
HEALTHY AND EFFICIENT CONTRACTOR
WORKFORCE IN CALIFORNIA. WITH US
TODAY IS THE REGISTRAR OF
CONTRACTOR STATE LICENSE BOARDS.
DAVID FOTI. I SAY IT RIGHT, GET
IT WRONG REAL CLOSE. DAVID PHÐ
OKAY, SORRY. I'M SO SORRY I NOT
SURE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, WES
SCRIBNER WITH THE YUROK TRIBE
DANCER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BOTH
OF THEM. GREAT. YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH IF YOU WANT THEM.
IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO
TAKE THEM AGAIN. DAVID PHÐ,
REGISTRAR FOR THE CONTRACTORS
BOARD, JUST IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL, TESTIFYING TODAY ON
BEHALF OF OUR 13 BOARD MEMBERS
WHO ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE
CONSUMER PROTECTION,
ENHANCEMENT. THIS BILL WOULD,
WOULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SHOUT
OUT OUR THANKS TO SENATOR ASHBY
AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I'D BE
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, MY NAME IS WES
SCRIBNER. I'M A OPERATE THE
WHOLLY OWNED CORPORATION FOR THE
YUROK TRIBE, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS
THESE CONTRACTING ISSUES THAT
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR THE
LAST THREE YEARS OR SO. AND
ACTUALLY, WITH THE STATE LICENSE
BOARD OFFICE AS WELL, WE'RE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE SB 1455.
AND WE APPRECIATE SENATOR
ASHBERY'S WORK AND THE REST OF
THE STAFF ON THIS, IT'S AN
IMPORTANT BILL THAT ALLOW
FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES TO
OBTAIN A CONTRACTOR LICENSE
WITHOUT UNNECESSARY BARRIERS. SO
CURRENT REGULATIONS EXCLUDE THE
TRIBES FROM STATE WORK CONTRACTS
, INCLUDING PRIVATE WORK AND
WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS LIKE
NON-PROFITS WITHIN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND IT REALLY
HINDERS OUR OUR ABILITY TO WORK
ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND
DEVELOPMENT IN CALIFORNIA BY
EXEMPTING THE TRIBES FROM THE
REQUIREMENT TO BE REGISTERED
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SECRETARY LICENSE OR JUST FOR
LICENSE, PURPOSES, SB 1455
REMOVES THE BARRIER,
ACKNOWLEDGING THE UNIQUE LEGAL
STATUS OF TRIBES, AND SUPPORTS
THEIR ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY
AND GROWTH. SO SB 1455 ENABLES
THE YUROK TRIBE AND OTHER TRIBES
ACROSS CALIFORNIA TO ENGAGE MORE
EFFECTIVELY IN PUBLIC WORKS
PROJECTS AND PRIVATE PROJECTS
WITHIN CALIFORNIA, AND THIS BILL
IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS
RECOGNIZING AND INTEGRATING THE
CONTRIBUTIONS OF THESE
CALIFORNIA TRIBES INTO THE
STATE'S ECONOMY. SO WITH THAT,
THE YUROK TRIBE, STRONGLY
SUPPORTS THIS BILL AND URGE YOUR
AYE VOTE YES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL, MR. CHAIR? MR. VICE CHAIR
PAULA REID, ON BEHALF OF
PECHANGA, TEJON AND THE COLUSA
TRIBES, THANKING BOTH SENATOR
ASHBY, THE STAFF ON THIS
COMMITTEE, FANA AND THE AMAZING
STAFF AND SENATE BNP, PLEASE
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND MEMBERS. KRISTEN OLSON,
KATE, REPRESENTING CAL TROUT IN
SUPPORT, AS WELL AS THE YUROK
TRIBE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE, ROB, CARRY ON WITH
THE OPERATING ENGINEERS. LOCAL
THREE. WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL AND WE THANK YOU,
SENATOR ASHBY. AND DAVID PHÐ,
FOR YOUR YOUR GUYS'S WORK ON
THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, RICHARD MARCUSSEN, FOR
THE WESTERN ELECTRICAL
CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION AND THE
PLUMBING, HEATING, COOLING
CONTRACTORS OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. JAMES TH¤U, ACTOR
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
COUNCIL OF LABORERS AND STRONG
SUPPORT AS WELL. THANKS THANK
YOU. ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL? SEEING
NONE. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO ADD ON
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL,
SEEING NONE, BRING IT BACK TO
COLLEAGUES FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. WE ALREADY HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND SEEING NONE.
CHAIR ASHBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE AND THANK MY WITNESSES
FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU.
CHAIR ASHBY. THANK YOU TO YOUR
WITNESSES. THANK YOU TO YOUR
FANTASTIC STAFF, WHO LED THIS
EFFORT. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
BILL TODAY TO ENSURE CONTINUED
OVERSIGHT OVER THE CONSTRUCTION
INDUSTRY. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON SB 1455.
ASHBY. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN. AYE.
BERMAN. AYE FLORA. LARA. AYE.
ALANIS. BAINES BAINES. AYE.
JUAN. CARRILLO. JUAN. CARRILLO.
AYE CHEN. DIXON. GRAYSON IRWIN.
IRWIN. AYE. JACKSON LOW. LOWE.
AYE. LOWENTHAL MCKENNA. HIÆN.
HIÆN. AYE. PELLERIN PELLERIN.
AYE. SANCHEZ. SORIA SORIA. AYE.
CYBER. CYBER. AYE THAT BILLS
OUT. WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN
FOR ABSENT COLLEAGUES. WE ARE
MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. ALL
RIGHT. HOW ABOUT 1456?
BEAUTIFUL. BILL. LET'S DO IT.
ATHLETIC COMMISSION SUNSET BILL,
LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF
FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP
ON THIS ONE. CHAIRMAN. IT'S A
GREAT BILL AND A GREAT
ORGANIZATION TO GET TO WORK
WITH. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO MEET
ANDY IN A MINUTE. AND HE'S
REALLY FUN. 1456 IS IMPERATIVE
TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMISSION
CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TO PROTECT
THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE
OF CALIFORNIA'S BOXERS AND MIXED
MARTIAL ARTS ATHLETES. THIS BILL
EXTENDS THE COMMISSION FOR FOUR
YEARS. IT AUTHORIZES THE
COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH A
PROCESS FOR APPROVING
COMPETITORS WHO TEST POSITIVE
FOR HEPATITIS C. IT REQUIRES AN
ON SITE AMBULANCE TO TRANSPORT A
COMPETITOR TO THE HOSPITAL. IF
THE RINGSIDE PHYSICIAN ORDERS IT
TO BE SO AND IT INCREASES THE
BOXING PENSION PLAN, TICKET
ASSESSMENT, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
WITH ME IS OUR FRIEND ANDY
FOSTER, THE COMMISSION'S
EXECUTIVE OFFICER. YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE COMMISSION
OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTS THIS BILL. I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, PUTTING
THE AMBULANCE PROVISION IN
BECAUSE OF THE THINGS ON OUR
LIST. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONE THAT WE ASKED FOR,
I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF.
CERTAINLY, TALKED WITH VINCENT,
MANY TIMES ON THE FLUCTUATING
REVENUES. THE THINGS CONTINUE TO
TALK ABOUT. BUT IT'S GOOD TO
CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION.
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK OF THE SENATE STAFF, THE
AUTHOR, AND, WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHEN WALKED IN
WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
BOXING AND MMA. SO IT'S
COINCIDENCE, COINCIDENCE,
COINCIDENCE. ANY DO WE HAVE A
MOTION IN A SECOND YET? NO. ANY
MOTIONS OR SECONDS? GREAT. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL? SEEING NONE. ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL, ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL ANYONE WANTS TO ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL? BRING IT
BACK TO COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. SEEING NONE, CHAIR
ASHBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
APPRECIATE YOU ALL URGING. I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR
, AND THANKS TO THE COMMISSION
FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND
ON THIS ISSUE. AND I KNOW WE ON
THE RIGHT ONE. I GUESS THERE ARE
STILL SOME OUTSTANDING ITEMS
OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. THE
CHANGES SO FAR. IS THAT RIGHT?
I'M READING THE RIGHT TALKING
POINTS. SURE VERY GRATEFUL FOR
THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. SO
FAR. HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL,
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
VOTE ON SB 1456. ASHBY. THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN I BERMAN I FLORA LARA I
ALANIS BAINES. BAYNES I JUAN
CARRILLO. JUAN CARRILLO I CHEN.
CHEN I DIXON. GRAYSON. IRWIN.
IRWIN I JACKSON. LOW. LOWE I
LOWENTHAL. MCKENNA. HIÆN WEN I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ.
SORIA. SORIA I ZIPPER. ZIPPER I.
THAT BILL IS OUT. WE'LL LEAVE IT
OPEN FOR ABSENT COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LAST UP FOR
ASHBY AND THEN WE HAVE BOG ALSO.
OH, YES. ALL RIGHT. LAST OF MY
CREW. THIS IS SB 1498, WHICH
PROVIDES NECESSARY ENFORCEMENT
TOOLS TO ADDRESS THE ILLEGAL
MARKETING OF CANNABIS AND HEMP
PRODUCTS, BOTH FROM LICENSED AND
ILLICIT BUSINESSES THAT ARE
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. THROUGH
MY WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS, I
RECENTLY AMENDED THIS BILL TO
EXPAND THE ENFORCEMENT ON
ADVERTISING TO INDUSTRIAL HEMP
AND ILLICIT ILLICIT BUSINESSES.
AS WELL. CURRENT LAW SPECIFIES
RULES THAT LICENSEES MUST ADHERE
TO FOR THE ADVERTISING OF
CANNABIS AND INDUSTRIAL HEMP,
INCLUDING PROHIBITING
ADVERTISING THAT IS ATTRACTIVE
TO CHILDREN. WHILE ILLEGAL, SOME
CANNABIS AND HEMP OPERATORS
WILLFULLY VIOLATE THESE
PROHIBITIONS BY CONTINUING TO
ADVERTISE CONTENT THAT IS
ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. THIS
LEAVES THE PROMISE OF PROP 64
UNMET, WHICH IS TO PROTECT YOUTH
FROM EXPOSURE TO CANNABIS
ADVERTISING SB 1498 ALLOWS
ENFORCEMENT FROM THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL, A DISTRICT ATTORNEY, A
COUNTY COUNSEL, OR A CITY
ATTORNEY. WHEN A CANNABIS OR
HEMP LICENSEE OR AN ILLICIT
BUSINESS IS IN VIOLATION OF
CURRENT ADVERTISING LAWS
DESIGNED TO PROTECT OUR KIDDOS,
SB 1498 IS A BILL THAT SEEKS TO
KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE AND
ENSURE THAT THE PROMISES OF PROP
64 ARE IMPLEMENTED AS INTENDED,
AND YOU HAVE A WITNESS WITH ME
HERE. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE
ANSWERING TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR
SPEAKING, BUT YOUR CALL. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI EVERYONE,
I'M PAMELA LANGENSTEIN. I'M AN
EPIDEMIOLOGIST WITH THE PUBLIC
HEALTH INSTITUTE, AND I'M HERE
TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. BUT I'D ALSO JUST
LIKE TO BRIEFLY ADD A NOTE OF
THANKS TO SENATOR ASHBY FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD. AND
ALSO STATE THAT THE PUBLIC
HEALTH INSTITUTE IS IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. WONDERFUL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
SEEING NONE, ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION, SEEING
NONE. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
WANT TO ADD ON AS TWEENERS OR
OPPOSITION? NO OPPOSITION,
ACTUALLY NO POSITION. BUT I DO
WANT TO COMMEND THE AUTHOR FOR
THE AMENDMENTS SHE ADDRESSED THE
STAKEHOLDERS. WE HAD ASKED THAT
SHE ADD UNLICENSED AND
INTOXICATING HEMP, AND IT'S BEEN
A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOUR
STAFF, AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR DOING THAT, WHICH IS WHERE
WE THINK THE PROBLEM LIES. SO
THANKS AGAIN. THANK YOU. ANY
ADDITIONAL FOLKS OF ANY
CHRISTIAN UFC? WESTERN STATES
COUNCIL ALSO HAVE NOT TAKEN AN
OFFICIAL POSITION, BUT REALLY
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
AUTHOR AND HER AMAZING STAFF ON
INCLUDING ILLICIT AND ALSO HEMP.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK
YOU JARED. KYLA WITH UNITED
CANNABIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON INCLUDING
WHAT I THINK IS THE LARGER
PROBLEM, WHICH IS THE ILLICIT
INDUSTRY. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A
NEUTRAL POSITION, BUT APPRECIATE
WHERE WE ARE. THANK YOU, THANK
YOU. BRING IT BACK TO
COLLEAGUES. QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION, I
BELIEVE, FROM THE VICE CHAIR. WE
HAVE A SECOND FROM ANY SECONDS.
SECOND FROM MEMBER ERWIN.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. DOCTOR
BAINES, YES I LOVE THIS BILL.
GREAT GREAT TOPIC, SUPER
IMPORTANT TO PROTECT OUR
CHILDREN RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF
PRODUCTS THAT ARE HITTING,
ESPECIALLY EDIBLES THAT ARE NOT
SPECIFICALLY MARKED. AND IF THEY
GET INTO THE WRONG HANDS, THEY
CAN REALLY CAUSE SOME DAMAGE
HEALTH WISE. SO THANK YOU SO
MUCH, AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE
ADDED ON AS THE COAUTHOR FOR
THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. FANTASTIC. ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING
NONE. CHAIR ASHBY, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? I APPRECIATE ALL
OF YOUR TIME TODAY COLLEAGUES.
TRULY URGENT, I VOTE. THANK YOU.
CHAIR ASHBY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON ALL OF THESE
BILLS. THE SUNSET BILLS, AND
OBVIOUSLY THE OMNIBUS BILL, AND
FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING
CANNABIS PRODUCTS, BOTH LEGAL
AND ILLICIT, ARE NOT MARKETED
TOWARDS CHILDREN. I ALSO WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS AND CRAFTING THIS
LANGUAGE. AND A MORE THAN HAPPY
TO VOTE FOR THE BILL TODAY,
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
VOTE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO EMPHASIZE
TODAY ON THAT. I'M MORE THAN
HAPPY TO VOTE FOR IT LATER. TO
ON SB 1498. ASHBY. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY. BERMAN. AYE. BERMAN.
AYE FLORA. LARA. AYE. ALANIS.
ALANIS AYE. BAINES. BAINES. AYE.
JUAN. CARRILLO JUAN. CARRILLO.
AYE. CHEN. CHEN AYE. DIXON.
GRAYSON. GRAYSON. AYE. IRWIN.
IRWIN. AYE JACKSON. LOW. LOW
AYE. LOWENTHAL. MCKINNEY. HIÆN
WHEN. AYE. PELLERIN. PELLERIN.
AYE SANCHEZ. SORIA SORIA. AYE.
ZEBRA. ZEBRA. AYE THAT BILL IS
OUT. WE DID IT! YOU MADE IT
THROUGH ALL OF THEM. THANKS YOU
GUYS SO MUCH. WELL DONE, WELL
DONE. TAKE THE REST OF THE WEEK
OFF. NOTHING ELSE GOING ON,
NOTHING ELSE GOING ON. SO WE'RE
JUST WAITING FOR ONE MORE
AUTHOR. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE
CAN RUN THROUGH LOTS OF OTHER
BILLS. SO SOME OF THEM, WE'RE
GOING TO NEED MOTIONS AND
SECONDS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE
A FULL COMMITTEE, BUT, MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE PLEASE START
FROM THE TOP, YEAH. LET'S START
WITH CONSENT. THAT'S ALWAYS A
GOOD ONE. CAN I GET A MOTION IN
A SECOND ON CONSENT? GOT A
MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL A VOTE ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR FILE. ITEM
FIVE SB 1233 WILK. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS BILL ITEM 13, SB
1526, SENATE COMMITTEE ON
BUSINESS, PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS, AS AMENDED, TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BILL ITEM 15, SB 1478 NGUYEN.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN. BERMAN, I FLORA. FLORA I
ALANIS. ALANIS I BAINES. BAINES
I, JUAN. CARRILLO, JUAN.
CARRILLO I CHEN. CHEN I DIXON.
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I, IRWIN. IRWIN
I JACKSON. LO LOW I LOWENTHAL,
MCKENNA. HUAN WEN I PELLERIN.
PELLERIN I SANCHEZ. SORIA SORIA
I ZIPPER. ZIPPER I CONSENT
CALENDARS OUT.
CAN I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND
FOR SB 639? LIMÓN GOT A MOTION
AND A SECOND. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
ON SB 639 LIMÓN, THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN I, BERMAN I FLORA LARA I
ALANIS. ALANIS I BAINES. BAINES
I JUAN CARRILLO, JUAN. CARRILLO
I CHEN. CHEN I DIXON. GRAYSON
GRAYSON I IRWIN. IRWIN I
JACKSON. LO LO I LOWENTHAL,
MCKINNEY. QUINN. WHEN I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ I SORIA. SORIA I ZUBER.
ZUBER I DIXON. DIXON. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO VOTE ON PERFECT? DIXON I
. THAT BILL IS OUT. DO NOT
BELIEVE THAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER
SANCHEZ. THAT BILLS OUT. CAN I
GET A MOTION IN A SECOND ON
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, SB 1042.
ROTH GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON SB 1042.
ROTH. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN. BERMAN.
I FLORA LARA I ALANIS. ALANIS I
BAINES. BAINES I JUAN. CARRILLO
JUAN. CARRILLO I CHEN. CHEN I
DIXON. DIXON. NOT VOTING GRAYSON
. GRAYSON. I IRWIN. IRWIN I
JACKSON. LO LO I. LOWENTHAL.
MCKINNEY. NGUYEN NGUYEN I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. NOT VOTING. SORIA SORIA
I ZIPPER. ZIPPER I THAT BILL IS
OUT. CAN I GET A MOTION AND A
SECOND ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
THREE 1059. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY. TAKE YOUR TIME. WHEN
YOU'RE READY, PLEASE CALL THE
VOTE. ON SB 1059, BRADFORD, THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN I BERMAN I FLORA. FLORA I
ALANIS ALANIS I BAINES. BAINES I
JUAN CARRILLO, JUAN. CARRILLO I
CHEN CHEN I DIXON. DIXON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON. I IRWIN.
IRWIN. I JACKSON. JACKSON I LO
LO I LOWENTHAL. MCKENNA. HIÆN.
HIÆN I PELLERIN. PELLERIN I
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I SORIA. SORIA
I ZIPPER. ZIPPER I THAT BILL IS
OUT. CAN I GET A MOTION? AND
SECOND ON SB TEN 1064 LAYERED I
LOVE THE ENTHUSIASM. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE
WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. ON SB
1064 LAYERED, THE MOTION IS DUE.
PASS TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN I BERMAN
I FLORA FLORA I ALANIS ALANIS I
BAINES BAINES I HUANG. CARRILLO,
JUAN. CARRILLO I CHEN CHEN I
DIXON. DIXON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON,
I, IRWIN. IRWIN. I JACKSON.
JACKSON I LO LO. 11-3 MCKENNA.
MCKENNA. I HIÆN. HIÆN I PELLERIN
. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ
ISAURIA. SORIA I. ZIPPER ZUBER.
I THAT BILL IS OUT. ON 14. YEAH.
CAN I GET A MOTION? AND SECOND
ON SB 1449 NEWMAN GOT A MOTION
IN A SECOND. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I LOVE IT. TAG TEAM OVER
THERE. IT'S PERFECT, MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE, PLEASE CALL
THE VOTE ON SB 1449. NEWMAN. THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN I BERMAN I FLORA LARA I
ALANIS. ALANIS I BAINES. BAINES
I JUAN CARRILLO, JUAN. CARRILLO
I CHEN CHEN I DIXON. PARDON.
DIXON. DIXON. I GRAYSON. GRAYSON
I IRWIN. IRWIN. I JACKSON.
JACKSON. I LO LO I LOWENTHAL.
MCKENNA. MCKENNA I HIÆN. HIÆN. I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. ASESORÍA SORIA I
ZIPPER. ZIPPER. I THAT BILL IS
OUT AND I THINK MAYBE 14. OH.
OKAY. OKAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST GO
DOWN THE ORDER? ON SB 1451,
ASHBY, THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ALANIS 1451,
ALANIS NOT VOTING. CHEN CHEN NOT
VOTING. DIXON DIXON. NOT VOTING.
GRAYSON. GRAYSON. I JACKSON.
JACKSON I LOWENTHAL. MCNAIR.
MCKINNON I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. NOT
VOTING. THAT BILL IS OUT. MOVING
ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. SB
1452. ON SB 1452, ASHBY, ALANIS.
ALANIS I, CHEN, CHEN I, DIXON.
DIXON I, GRAYSON. GRAYSON I,
JACKSON. JACKSON I, MCKENNA.
MCKENNA. I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. I.
BILL IS OUT. MOVING ON TO FILE
NUMBER NINE SB 1454. ASHBY ON SB
1454. ASHBY. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. SORRY, ALANIS
ALANIS I CHEN CHEN I DIXON.
DIXON. NOT VOTING. GRAYSON.
GRAYSON. I JACKSON. JACKSON.
JACKSON I LOWENTHAL. MCKENNA.
MCKINNON. I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ.
NOT VOTING. THAT BILL IS OUT.
MOVING ON TO FILE NUMBER TEN SB
1455. ASHBY SB 1455 ASHBY,
ALANIS. ALANIS I CHEN CHEN I
DIXON. DIXON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON
I, JACKSON. JACKSON I,
LOWENTHAL. MCKINNEY MCKENNA I
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I. BILL IS OUT.
MOVING ON TO FILE NUMBER 11 SB
1456 ON SB 1456. ASHBY ALANIS
ALANIS I, DIXON. DIXON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I JACKSON.
JACKSON I MCKENNA. MCKENNA I
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. I THAT BILL IS
OUT. MOVING ON TO FILE NUMBER 12
SB 1498. ASHBY ON SB 1498. ASHBY
DIXON. DIXON I JACKSON. JACKSON
I MCKENNA. MCKENNA I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. I A BILL IS OUT. MOVING
ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER 14 SB
1459. NGUYEN I'M MAKE A MOTION.
ON SB 1459 NGUYEN. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN A BERMAN I FLORA I FLORA
I ALANIS ALANIS I BAYNES. BAYNES
ON SB 1459 NGUYEN. ITEM 1414
EXCUSE ME BAYNES I JUAN CARRILLO
JUAN CARRILLO I CHEN CHEN I
DIXON. DIXON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON
I IRWIN. IRWIN. I JACKSON.
JACKSON. I LO LO I LOWENTHAL.
MCKENNA. MCKENNA. I JUAN. HIÆN.
I PELLERIN. PELLERIN. I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. ASESORÍA ZIPPER.
ZIPPER. I. THAT BILLS OUT. WHERE
IS SHE?
SO WE'RE GOING TO START FROM THE
TOP AGAIN FOR FOLKS WHO JUST
JOINED, WE'RE JUST GOING TO.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO RUN DOWN.
YEAH, THINGS GET COMPLICATED ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR, DIXON.
DIXON, I. JACKSON JACKSON, I
LOWENTHAL, MCKENNA. MCKENNA I
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I. ON SB 639
LIMÓN JACKSON. JACKSON I
MCKENNA. MCKENNA. I. ON SB 1042.
ROTH. MCKENNA MCKENNA. I ON SB
1059, BRADFORD MCKENNA. MCKENNA
I.
SENATOR AQUEBOGUE IT IS AN HONOR
AND A PRIVILEGE. IF YOU'D LIKE
TO PRESENT, SB 1468. HAVE A
MOTION IN A SECOND.
RIGHT. SO, GOOD MORNING, MISTER
CHAIR. MEMBERS, LET ME START BY
THANKING COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
WORKING WITH MY OFFICE TO
IMPROVE THE BILL. I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AS AMENDED.
SENATE BILL 1468 WILL EDUCATE
AND ENCOURAGE PROVIDERS TO MAKE
USE OF THE 2023 DRUG ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY RULE THAT ALLOWS
PRACTITIONERS TO DISPENSE A
THREE DAY SUPPLY OF NARCOTIC
MEDICATION TO START
DETOXIFICATION OR MAINTENANCE
TREATMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO USE
OPIOIDS. THOSE BOARDS, OVERSEEN
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER
AFFAIRS, WILL NOTIFY THEIR
LICENSED PRACTITIONERS ABOUT THE
DEA THREE DAY RULE AND PROVIDE
HELPFUL INFORMATION ON HOW TO
PRESCRIBE THIS MEDICATION.
OPIOID WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS CAN
BE INTENSELY UNCOMFORTABLE AND
IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, THERE CAN
BE LIFE THREATENING
COMPLICATIONS. ASSURING THAT A
LICENSED PRACTITIONERS ARE AWARE
OF THIS CHANGE WILL HELP
PATIENTS STRUGGLING WITH OPIOID
USE DISORDER, GIVING THEM A
BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCESS.
JOINING ME TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF
OF SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA IS
NATASHA MINSKER. WELCOME. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD MORNING,
SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA,
NATASHA MINSKER AND STRONG
SUPPORT. CALIFORNIA IS
STRUGGLING WITH A CRISIS OF
OVERDOSE DEATHS. THE GOOD NEWS
IS THAT MEDICATION ASSISTED
TREATMENT ACTUALLY WORKS TO
ADDRESS OPIATE SUBSTANCE USE,
INCLUDING FENTANYL. SB 1468 IS A
SMART SOLUTION THAT WILL SAVE
LIVES. WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE AN
I VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL? ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? SEEING NONE, BRING IT BACK
TO COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. WE ALREADY HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND SEEING NO
QUESTIONS, SEEING NO COMMENTS.
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? CERTAINLY, SIR. SB 1468
HAS NO REGISTERED OPPOSITION AND
RECEIVED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN
THE SENATE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. GREAT. THANK
YOU. SENATOR OCHOA BOGH WITH THE
AMENDMENT. I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THIS BILL TODAY IN HOPES THAT
MORE PATIENTS WILL RECEIVE LIFE
CHANGING TREATMENT FOR OPIOID
USE DISORDER. AND MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE
ON SB 1468. OCHOA BOGH. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN I, BERMAN
I, FLORA LARA I ALANIS. ALANIS I
BAINES. BAINES I, JUAN CARRILLO,
JUAN. CARRILLO I CHEN, CHEN I
DIXON. DIXON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON
I, IRWIN. IRWIN I JACKSON.
JACKSON I LO LO I LOWENTHAL.
MCKENNA. MCKENNA I JUAN HIÆN I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ ASESORÍA. ZIPPER. ZIPPER
I. THAT BILL IS OUT. WE'LL LEAVE
IT OPEN FOR ABSENT COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE ARE
DONE WITH BILL PRESENTATIONS. WE
HAVE A COUPLE OF COLLEAGUES WHO
ARE NEED TO ADD ON TO VOTES. I
KNOW ONE IS ON THEIR WAY, IF YOU
MISSED ANY VOTES, YOU'VE GOT
FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE GOING TO
KEEP THE HEARING OPEN UNTIL
1130. YOU HAVE UNTIL 1130 TO
COME AND VOTE ON BILLS AND ADD
ON, AND WE'LL RUN IT FROM THE
TOP. FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE MISSED
EARLIER, GIVE US ONE MINUTE JUST
TO GET A LITTLE ORGANIZED. WE'LL
RUN IT BACK. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY
WAS VERY. OH, YEAH, ON 1042,
JUST IN CASE. ON SB 1042, ROTH,
JACKSON. JACKSON. I.
ON SB 1459, NGUYEN SORIA. SORIA
I. ON SB 1468. OCHOA SORIA.
SORIA. I THANK YOU.
YEAH. PLEASE DO. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE TAKE IT FROM
THE TOP ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
LOWENTHAL I. LOWENTHAL, I. ON SB
639. LIMÓN LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL
I. ON SB 1042, ROTH. LOWENTHAL.
LOWENTHAL I. ON SB 1059,
BRADFORD LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL I.
ON SB 1064, LAIRD LOWENTHAL.
LOWENTHAL I. ON SB 1449, NEUMANN
LOWENTHAL LOWENTHAL I. ON SB
1451, ASHBY LOWENTHAL I.
LOWENTHAL I ON SB 1452, ASHBY
LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL I ON SB
1454. ASHBY LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL
I. ON SB 1455, ASHBY LOWENTHAL.
LOWENTHAL I. ON SB 1456, ASHBY
LOWENTHAL, LOWENTHAL I. ON SB
1498, ASHBY LOWENTHAL LOWENTHAL
I ON SB 1459. NGUYEN LOWENTHAL
LOWENTHAL I. ON SB 1468. OCHOA
LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL I.
THIS HEARING IS ADJOURNED. I
GOTTA GO PRESENT A BILL.
LOWENTHAL IS GOING TO BEAT ME.