MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE
HEARING OF JUNE 26TH. WE'RE
GOING TO START WITH SOME
HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, FIRST, I'D
LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT,
FOR THIS AND FUTURE HEARINGS,
TESTIMONY WILL BE IN PERSON AS
WE NO LONGER USE A MODERATED
TELEPHONE SERVICE. WE ALSO
ACCEPT WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH
THE POSITION LETTER PORTAL ON
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. AND I
ALSO WOULD LIKE TO GO TO SOME
GROUND RULES FOR APPROPRIATE
CONDUCT. THE ASSEMBLY HAS
EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF
DISRUPTIONS TO COMMITTEE AND
FLOOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS. CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS, DISTURBS, OR OTHERWISE
IMPEDES THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF
THE HEARING IS PROHIBITED. SUCH
CONDUCT MAY INCLUDE TALKING OR
MAKING LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE. UTTERING LOUD.
THREATENING OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE.
SPEAKING LONGER THAN THE
ALLOTTED TIME. EXTENDED
DISCUSSION OF MATTERS NOT
RELATED TO THE SUBJECT OF THE
HEARING OR THE BILL. ANY OTHER
DISRUPTIVE ACTS ARE ALSO GOING
TO BE CONSIDERED AND TO ADDRESS
THE DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT, I WILL
TAKE THE FOLLOWING STEPS. IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
PROCESS, I WILL DIRECT THEM TO
STOP AND WARN THEM THAT
CONTINUED DISRUPTION MAY RESULT
IN REMOVAL FROM THE CAPITAL
BUILDING. I WILL ALSO DOCUMENT
ON THE RECORD THE INDIVIDUAL
INVOLVED AND THE NATURE OF THE
DISRUPTION. CONDUCT. I MAY
TEMPORARILY RECESS THE HEARING.
IF THE CONDUCT DOES NOT STOP, I
WILL REQUEST THE ASSISTANCE OF
THE SERGEANTS IN ESCORTING
INDIVIDUAL FROM THE CAPITOL
BUILDING, WE HAVE 15 ITEMS ON
THE AGENDA. ONE OF THESE ITEMS
IS A PROPOSED CONSENT ITEM, ITEM
NUMBER 15, SB 1514, BY SENATE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE. WE
WILL HEAR OTHER BILLS IN THE
ORDER SHOWN ON OUR AGENDA UNLESS
OTHERWISE NOTED, WE WILL TAKE UP
THE TWO PARAMETER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT AND UP TO TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. THESE
WITNESSES WILL EACH HAVE THREE
MINUTES TO PROVIDE THEIR
TESTIMONY. ALL SUBSEQUENT
WITNESSES SHOULD SAY THEIR NAME,
THEIR ORGANIZATION, AND THEIR
POSITION ON THE BILL. WE DON'T
HAVE A QUORUM YET, SO WE'LL BE,
CONDUCTING THIS AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. AND I SEE, SENATOR
BLACK SPEAR, ITEM NUMBER ONE ON
THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE, WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. CHAIR.
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES, I'M
PLEASED TO PRESENT TODAY SB
SEVEN, WHICH WILL MAKE MINOR
CHANGES TO THE MINIMUM STANDARDS
FOR THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS
ALLOCATION OR ARENA DEVELOPMENT
PROCESS. THESE CHANGES ARE BASED
ON FINDINGS FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT. HCD FOR THE ARENA
EVALUATION. CALIFORNIA IS FACING
AN UNPRECEDENTED HOUSING
SHORTAGE DUE TO DECADES OF
UNDERPRODUCTION OF HOUSING.
ACCORDING TO HCD. CALIFORNIA
NEEDS TO BUILD 1.2 MILLION
AFFORDABLE HOMES OVER THE NEXT
DECADE TO MEET ITS HOUSING
NEEDS. THE MOST EXTREME IMPACT
OF THIS SHORTAGE HAS BEEN THE
GROWTH OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE
STATE. BETWEEN 2010 AND 2023,
HOMELESSNESS INCREASED
APPROXIMATELY 47. CURRENTLY,
MORE THAN 180,000 PEOPLE ARE
UNHOUSED, AND IN NEED OF
HOUSING. SB SEVEN, AMONG OTHER
THINGS, WILL REQUIRE COUNCILS OF
GOVERNMENT OR COGS TO
SPECIFICALLY SOLICIT
PARTICIPATION FROM PEOPLE WITH
SPECIAL HOUSING NEEDS, INCLUDING
PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE RINA
METHODOLOGY. ADDITIONALLY, SB
SEVEN WILL SIMPLIFY STEPS IN THE
PROCESS AND ALIGN STATUTE CLOSER
TO HOW IT IS CURRENTLY BEING
APPLIED. OVERALL, THESE CHANGES
WILL STRENGTHEN THE RENA PROCESS
AND CLARIFY EXISTING STATUTE. MY
WITNESS FROM THE INNER CITY LAW
CENTER IS SICK AND WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY. AND WITH
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU SENATOR
. ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS
TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT FOR THE
RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, ARE THERE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? NONE. PARAMETER
WITNESSES. I WANT TO BE ADDED ON
THE RECORD IN OPPOSITION. SEEING
NONE, I TAKE IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS AT ALL.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
EITHER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. SENATOR, THANK
YOU FOR PRESENTING YOUR BILL
TODAY. I ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED
IN THE 66TH CYCLE. RENA PROCESS.
AND WE DID HAVE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS. AND HOW THAT THOSE
NUMBERS WERE ALLOCATED. I
BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE
MORE TRANSPARENCY AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY. WE
DON'T HAVE QUORUM YET. ONCE WE
DO, WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION. BUT
MY SUPPORT FOR THE BILL IS THERE
FOR YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I ALSO
HAVE ITEM NUMBER SIX. IF YOU
WANTED ME TO DO THAT ONE.
CONTINUE. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY
ELSE HERE. YES. OKAY AND LET ME
JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND CHAIR
REQUEST THAT IF EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMPOST COMPOSITION IS IN
COMPOST COALITION IS IN THE ROOM
TO INVITE HIM TO COME FORWARD.
NEIL EDGAR, IF HE DOES COME, HE
CAN COME FORWARD HERE. THANK
YOU. PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES,
THIS IS SB 1045. AND WHAT IT
DOES IS IT REQUIRES THE OFFICE
OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH,
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS OPR, TO
DEVELOP A MODEL ORDINANCE FOR
SITING COMPOST FACILITIES AND
REQUIRING LOCALS TO CONSIDER
THIS ADVISORY, DEVELOPING THIS
MUCH NEEDED ORGANIC WASTE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRITICAL TO
HAVING US MEET OUR SB 1383
TARGETS, WHICH WE ARE FAR FROM
ACHIEVING. IN ORDER TO MEET
THESE TARGETS, CAL RECYCLE
ESTIMATES THAT THE STATE NEEDS
APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 100 NEW OR
EXPANDED ORGANIC WASTE RECYCLING
FACILITIES RIGHT NOW, ONE
OBSTACLE TO GETTING THESE
FACILITIES UP AND RUNNING IS THE
TIME CONSUMING AND COMPLICATED
PROCESS TO GET THEM SITED. THIS
IS SIMILAR TO HOMELESS SERVING
HOUSING. ALSO VERY DIFFICULT TO
GET SITED. TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE, A TECHNICAL ADVISORY
DEVELOPED BY OPR ON BEST
PRACTICES FOR FACILITATING THE
SITING OF COMPOST FACILITIES AND
REQUIRING LOCALS TO CONSIDER THE
ADVISORY, WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
AGAIN MY SPONSOR, NEIL EDGAR,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMPOST COALITION, TO
COME FORWARD. NOT SEEING THE
PREMIER. OH, HE IS RIGHT. I WILL
GET A COUPLE OF MINUTES. YEAH
THANK YOU FOR THE HELP. I DON'T
KNOW IF HE EXPECTED THIS TO COME
UP RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE IT'S
NUMBER SIX. YEAH WE UNDERSTAND.
AND WE JUMPED THE LINE. WE'LL
WAIT RIGHT.
I THINK IT'S COMING. YES THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OH,
ABSOLUTELY NOT A PROBLEM.
PLEASE, WHEN YOU'RE READY, SIR.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD
MORNING. MEMBERS, I'M NEIL
EDGAR. I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMPOST COALITION. OUR MEMBERS
ARE PREDOMINANTLY SERVICE
PROVIDERS FROM MUNICIPALITIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA WHO
PROCESS YARD TRIMMINGS AND,
INCREASINGLY, FOOD MATERIALS TO
MEET THE LOFTY CLIMATE GOALS OF
SB 1383. CALRECYCLE IS PREDICTED
. THE STATE NEEDS TO DOUBLE OUR
EXPECTED OR EXISTING COMPOSTING
CAPACITY SINCE 1980, OR SINCE SB
1383 HAS BEEN PASSED IN 2016,
WE'VE OPENED ABOUT A DOZEN NEW
FACILITIES, ONLY TWO OF WHICH
ARE PERMITTED TO TAKE FOOD
MATERIALS, WHICH REQUIRES A
HIGHER BAR FOR PERMITTING. IN MY
DAY JOB, I PERMIT AND DEVELOP
COMPOSTING FACILITIES, HAVING
PERMITTED 44 FACILITIES AND 23
COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA, I CAN
TELL YOU THE FIRSTHAND
CHALLENGES OF GETTING THEM ON
THE GROUND AND OPERATING. THIS
BILL IS INTENDED TO RESOLVE ONE
OF THE KEY HURDLES WE'RE FACING
AND MOVING FORWARD WITH CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE BY PROVIDING
MODEL ZONING, ORDINANCE,
LANGUAGE, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE
EVERY INCENTIVE TO PLAN FOR AND
PERMIT ORGANIC WASTE FACILITIES
IN THE INTEREST OF MEETING SB
1383 REQUIREMENTS. I JUST DON'T
BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE TOOLS TO
RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT DELAY
NUMEROUS PROJECTS. THIS BILL
WILL HELP PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE
TOOLS. AGAIN, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS
SPENT 12 YEARS TO COMPLETE TWO
ZONED TEXT AMENDMENTS IN VENTURA
COUNTY TO EXPAND AN EXISTING
FACILITY, LARGELY BECAUSE THE
ZONING ORDINANCE DID NOT
EXPLICITLY ALLOW COMMERCIAL
COMPOSTING OPERATIONS ON
AGRICULTURALLY ZONED LAND.
CLOSING THE LOOP ON ORGANIC
MATERIALS WILL REQUIRE IN PART,
THAT COMPOST BE RETURNED TO THAT
VERY AGRICULTURAL LAND, AND
LOCAL SOLUTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO
LIMITING TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS.
I THANK YOU, AND I THANK SENATOR
BLAKESBERG FOR BRINGING SB 1045
FORWARD. THANK YOU SIR. ANY
OTHER THAT WANT TO BE ADDED ON
THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME, ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
ON THE BILL. ETHAN NAGLER I'M
GONNA HAVE THE CITY OF RANCHO
CUCAMONGA IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING LINSEY GULLAHORN WITH
CAPITAL ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF
THE RESOURCE RECOVERY COALITION
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. CHRIS
GROGAN, ON BEHALF OF REPUBLIC
SERVICES IN SUPPORT JOHN KENNEDY
WITH THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? NO. PROMINENT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SEEING
NONE. TAKE IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PACHECO. NO QUESTIONS. I DON'T
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
PRESENTING YOUR BILL TO
FACILITATE THE APPROPRIATE
SEATING OF COMPOSTING
FACILITIES. I WILL BE VOTING
AYE. ONCE WE GET A QUORUM AND A
MOTION, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING
BOTH OF YOUR BILLS. THANK YOU.
SENATOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE ARE
WAITING FOR OTHERS TO COME OVER
TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE'RE GOING
TO BE TAKING US A PAUSE ON THE
HEARING UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER
AUTHOR TO COME IN TO PRESENT.
THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTER? COULD
I JUMP OUT OF ORDER? WE DON'T
HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
HE DID THAT I DID, AND YOU HAD A
LONG BILL. JOSH, MINE IS A SHORT
BILL. YOURS TOOK A LONG TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN, SB 1111 BY SENATOR
MEAN. SENATOR, WHEN YOU'RE
READY, PLEASE. AND THANK YOU,
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COMMITTEE
MEMBER, BEFORE I START, I JUST
WANT TO NOTE THAT I WILL BE
COMMITTING TO ACCEPT THE
PROPOSED ASSEMBLY ELECTION
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. I WANT TO
THANK THEM AND YOUR STAFF FOR
ASSISTANCE. SB 1111 WOULD
REQUIRE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO
ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON A
CONTRACT MADE BY THAT OFFICIAL'S
GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WHEN THEIR
CHILD HAS A DIRECT FINANCIAL
INTEREST OR OTHER BENEFIT FROM
THE OUTCOME OF THAT PUBLIC
CONTRACT DECISION, GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF POTENTIALLY
HANDING OUT MANY MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN
CONTRACTS AND APPROVING THESE ON
BEHALF OF TAXPAYERS. AS SUCH, WE
MUST HOLD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
TO THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE
STANDARDS IN ORDER TO AVOID
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR
PERCEPTIONS OF IMPROPRIETY WHEN
CONDUCTING THE PEOPLE'S
BUSINESS. IN LATE 2023, NEWS
SURFACED THAT IN ORANGE COUNTY,
SUPERVISOR IN THE AREA I
REPRESENT HAD AWARDED COVID 19
RELIEF FUNDING TO AN
ORGANIZATION LED BY HIS DAUGHTER
WITHOUT DISCLOSING THAT
RELATIONSHIP TO THE PUBLIC. THAT
ORGANIZATION HAD FAILED TO
COMPLETE REQUIRED AUDITS, AND A
NUMBER OF CONCERNS WERE RAISED
IN THE MEDIA. BUT DESPITE THOSE
CONCERNS, THE ORGANIZATION
CONTINUED TO RECEIVE PUBLIC
FUNDS WHILE EXISTING LAW DOES
NOT EXPRESSLY FORBID STATE AND
LOCAL OFFICIALS FROM AWARDING
PUBLIC CONTRACTS TO THEIR ADULT
CHILDREN, IT IS MY VIEW THAT
PUBLIC OFFICIALS SHOULD NOT BE
USING THEIR POSITIONS TO ENRICH
THEMSELVES, DIRECTLY OR
INDIRECTLY, OR THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS, SO SB 1111 WOULD
CLEARLY PROHIBIT PUBLIC
OFFICIALS FROM VOTING ON PUBLIC
CONTRACTS THAT BENEFIT THEIR
ADULT CHILDREN, EXTENDING THE
REMOTE INTEREST DEFINITION TO
ADULT CHILDREN AND PROVIDING
PENALTIES SHOULD PUBLIC
OFFICIALS VIOLATE THIS LAW. I
THINK THIS IS A COMMON SENSE
BILL. I HAVE NO WITNESSES. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU. SENATOR, ANYBODY IN
THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO ADD ON IN
SUPPORT, PLEASE COME FORWARD
SEEING NO ONE. ARE THERE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
NO PRIMARY WITNESSES. THEY WANT
TO GO ON THE RECORD SEEING NO
ONE TAKE IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE, ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PACHECO, ANY QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. I WILL DO
THAT WHEN WE GET A QUORUM AND A
MOTION, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU
AND YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING WITH
THE ELECTIONS COMMITTEE AND THIS
COMMITTEE ON THIS BILL. THE
AMENDMENTS TODAY REFLECT THE
AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED IN
THE ELECTIONS COMMITTEE, WHICH
YOU AGREED TO, WITH THESE
AMENDMENTS, I WILL BE SUPPORTING
YOUR BILL. ONCE AGAIN, WE GET A
QUORUM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIR. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO
BACK TO FILE ORDER. I THOUGHT I
SAW SENATOR BECKER HERE. YES,
THAT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE
AGENDA. SB 721, WHEN YOU ARE
READY. SENATOR SURE. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, THANKS FOR A
CHANCE TO PRESENT SB 721. THIS
IS THE STUDENT HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT ACT, AND I WANT TO
START BY THANKING COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THIS BILL. I WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU. CHAIR. SB 721 WILL HELP
INCENTIVIZE THE CREATION OF MORE
STUDENT HOUSING BY CLARIFYING
THAT JURISDICTIONS CAN RECEIVE
UP TO 25% OF CREDIT IN ANY RINA
INCOME CATEGORY FOR SUITE STYLE
STUDENT HOUSING DURING THE
SEVENTH RINA CYCLE. THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS WILL
PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR SUITE
STYLE HOUSING, REQUIRE UNITS TO
HAVE A RATIO OF BEDS TO
BATHROOMS THAT DOES NOT EXCEED 5
TO 1, AND REQUIRE BASIC ABILITY
STANDARDS TO ENSURE STUDENTS ARE
NOT LIVING IN UNSUITABLE
CONDITIONS. CALIFORNIA IS FACING
EXTREME STUDENT HOUSING CRISIS,
AS YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO A 2020
UCLA STUDY, 1 IN 5 COMMUNITY
COLLEGE STUDENTS, 1 IN 10 CSU
STUDENTS AND 1 IN 20 UC STUDENTS
ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
CURRENTLY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
AND SCHOOLS ARE NOT AS
ENCOURAGED TO CREATE MORE SUITE
STYLE HOUSING, IN PART BECAUSE
JURISDICTIONS CANNOT COUNT THOSE
FOR TOWARDS MEETING THEIR RINA
NUMBERS. WE NEED TO CREATE MORE
DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR MORE
STUDENT HOUSING TO ADDRESS THIS
CRISIS, BY ADDING SUITE STYLE
HOUSING TO THE ANNUAL PROGRESS
REPORT. LOCAL JURISDICTIONS CAN
USE THIS AS A TOOL TO MEET THEIR
EXISTING RINA NEEDS AND PROVIDE
HOUSING FOR CALIFORNIA'S GROWING
STUDENT POPULATION, OUR WITNESS,
FROM YIMBY LAW HAD TO CANCEL. SO
I DON'T WITNESS TODAY, BUT HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU FOR THAT, SENATOR. ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS
TO ADD ON IN SUPPORT, SAY YOUR
NAME, ORGANIZATION AND POSITION
ON THE BILL. CHAIR MEMBERS NICK
ROMO WITH CRUZ STRATEGIES. ON
BEHALF OF STANFORD UNIVERSITY,
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
THIS BILL. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL, CLARIFYING THAT
JURISDICTIONS CAN ADD THIS SUITE
STYLE HOUSING WILL CERTAINLY
ALLEVIATE, THE STUDENT HOUSING
CRISIS IN THE STATE. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION SEEING
NONE. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO
BE BURIED IN OPPOSITION? FOR THE
RECORD, SEEING NONE. TAKE IT
BACK TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER PACHECO.
ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? NO
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, SENATOR
DÂN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. AND, WE
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BRING THIS BILL UP LATE IN THE
PROCESS, BUT AN IMPORTANT ONE.
ONCE WE GOT HKDSE, IN MEMO ON
CHANGES TO RINA THAT THAT
INVOLVED THIS AREA. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING
THE BILL. AND, JUST TO CLARIFY,
AFTER OUR DISCUSSION YESTERDAY
ON THE RATIO OF BEDS TO
BEDROOMS, WE HAVE COME TO AN
AGREEMENT THAT FIVE BEDS, ONE
BEDROOM IS REASONABLE. AND YOU
AGREED TO THAT, WITH THAT CHANGE
AND YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF ALL THE
COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I WILL BE
VOTING AYE. ONCE WE GET A QUORUM
AND A MOTION TO PROCEED. THANK
YOU. SENATOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SEE, SENATOR LAIRD READY? THAT'S
ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA. SB 977.
SENATOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIR. AND MEMBER, IT IS A
PLEASURE TO BE HERE TO PRESENT,
SENATE BILL 977. IT WOULD
ESTABLISH AN INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION FOR SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY FOR THE FIVE,
COUNTY SUPERVISORIAL SEATS I
HAVE WITH ME IN A MINUTE. MY
WITNESS, WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF, SAN
LUIS OBISPO COUNTY, AND THERE
WAS A PARTICULARLY EGREGIOUS
REDISTRICTING IN THE LAST CYCLE.
HE HE WILL TELL YOU MORE
DETAILS, BUT I WILL JUST SAY HE
IS A FOUR TERM SUPERVISOR. AND
WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
REELECTION, HE REPRESENTED THE
ENTIRE COAST IN THE NORTH HALF
OF THE COUNTY. AND HE HAD TWO
THIRDS NEW CONSTITUENTS AND WENT
DEEP INTO AG, LAND. IT WAS
REALLY DESIGNED TO REDISTRICT
HIM OUT. IT WAS A LEAN TO THE
OTHER WAY. POLITICALLY BUT HE
WON REELECTION BY 12 VOTES. AND
SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
DO HERE IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
FOR OTHER COUNTIES
LEGISLATIVELY, WHICH IS HAVE A
COMMISSION, JUST AS WE HAVE IT
FOR OUR DISTRICTS THAT WILL
INDEPENDENTLY TAKE A LOOK AND
DRAW FAIR DISTRICTS, THE ONES
THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED THUS FAR
HAVE BEEN FOR MUCH BIGGER
COUNTIES. AND SO THIS ONE IS
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, JUST TO TRY
TO AMELIORATE ITSELF WITH THE
SIZE OF THE COUNTY AND, IT IS
SUPPORTED BY THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. IT'S ALSO SUPPORTED
BY, AFSCME, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA. IT HAS NO
REGISTERED OPPOSITION. IT PASSED
OFF THE SENATE FLOOR 31 TO 8 AND
IS PASSED OUT OF THE ELECTIONS
COMMITTEE. IN YOUR HOUSE ALREADY
. AND, AND SO I AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME, WHEN YOU HAVE
A QUORUM, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
AN AYE VOTE. BUT LET ME
INTRODUCE MY WITNESS SUPERVISOR,
BRUCE GIBSON. AND EVEN THOUGH
HE'S HERE ON BEHALF OF SAN LUIS
OBISPO COUNTY IN HIS SPARE TIME,
HE IS PRESIDENT OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES FOR THE
STATE. SO, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK
YOU, SENATOR LAIRD, IT'S A
PLEASURE TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.
LET ME ADD TO SENATOR'S COMMENTS
ABOUT MY DOUBLE DIGIT WIN IN THE
MOST RECENT REELECTION. THE
GERRYMANDER WAS, IN FACT, SO
EGREGIOUS THAT IT BROUGHT AN
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF COUNTY
RESIDENTS OUT INTO OUR PUBLIC
CONVERSATION. THESE ARE
RESIDENTS OF ALL POLITICAL
STRIPES, AND THEY WERE
OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSED TO THE
GERRYMANDER. THAT GERRYMANDER
WAS CORRECTED THROUGH COURT
ACTION, BUT LASTING DAMAGE
REMAINS. AND THAT DAMAGE TAKES
TWO FORMS. ONE OF THEM IS
CONFUSION. I CONTINUALLY GET
COMMENTS AS TO WHO IS MY
SUPERVISOR, AND IT REALLY
RELATES TO THE KIND OF THING
THAT HAPPENED IN A MINOR SCALE
IN REDISTRICTING, THE SENATE,
WHERE GAPS AND OVERLAPS
OCCURRED. BUT IN THIS
GERRYMANDER, THERE WERE NEARLY
100,000 RESIDENTS OF SAN LUIS
OBISPO COUNTY WHO WERE SHIFTED
BETWEEN DISTRICTS OF
PRESIDENTIAL YEARS OR MID-TERM
YEARS. AND IT CAUSED MASS
CONFUSION. IT ALSO DAMAGED ALSO
TAKES THE FORM OF A BREACH OF
TRUST, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN
THE LINGERING ANGER THAT A
MAJORITY OF OUR BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS COULD CAUSE THIS
MUCH, DAMAGE TO OUR ELECTORAL
PROCESS. WE'RE SEEING GROWING
SENTIMENT THAT INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING IS CERTAINLY
NECESSARY. EIGHT COUNTIES HAVE
IT ALREADY. SB 977 PROPOSES TO
COME IN CONSISTENT WITH THE
APPROACH THAT THOSE COUNTIES
TOOK, AND COUNTY AND STATE
ELECTION CODE WITH SPECIFIC
AMENDMENTS THAT CUSTOMIZE THIS
TO THE SIZE OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
COUNTY. AND OUR CURRENT
SITUATION, AS I'M SURE YOU,
SHARE MY FEELING THAT FAIR
ELECTIONS ARE THE BEDROCK OF OUR
DEMOCRACY, AND FAIR DISTRICTS
ARE THE BEDROCK OF FAIR
ELECTIONS, OUR OUR COUNTY NEEDS
A CITIZENS REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION IN ORDER TO ENSURE
FAIR DISTRICTS. IT AS IT'S
PRESENTED TODAY, GIVES US THE
TOOLS, THAT WILL BE AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE FREE FROM PARTIZAN
MANIPULATION TRULY REPRESENTS
OUR COUNTY'S VOTERS AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES AND WILL GO A LONG
WAY TO RESTORING TRUST IN OUR
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE. AND WITH THAT, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
THAT WANTS TO BE ADDED ON IN
SUPPORT? FOR THE RECORD, SEEING
NO ONE? WHAT ABOUT ANY PARAMETER
WOULD THIS IN OPPOSITION SEEING
NO ONE? I TAKE THIS BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PACHECO. ANY QUESTIONS? SENATOR?
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
EITHER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
YES. JUST ONE ADDITIONAL FACT
AND THIS, REDISTRICTING PUTS
SOME SAN LUIS OBISPO RESIDENTS
IN THE POSITION THAT THEY WOULD
VOTE FOR SUPERVISOR THREE TIMES
IN FOUR YEARS, AND IT PUT OTHERS
IN A POSITION THAT THEY WOULD
NOT VOTE AT ALL FOR SUPERVISOR
FOR 6 OR 8 YEARS. SO IT'S THAT
CRAZINESS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
CORRECT WITH THIS. AND WHEN YOU
HAVE A QUORUM AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AN EVO. THANK YOU.
SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD TO PROMOTE
MORE INDEPENDENCE IN THE
REDISTRICTING PROCESS. ONCE WE
GET A QUORUM AND EMOTIONAL
VOTING, I THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND I SEE SENATOR CABALLERO, AND
THAT IS ITEM NUMBER NINE, SB
1123. SENATOR, WHEN YOU'RE READY
.
GOOD MORNING, MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT
SB 1123, WHICH BUILDS UPON WORK
THAT I DID LAST YEAR TO
STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR
COMMUNITIES TO BUILD SMALL
SCALE, MORE AFFORDABLE INFILL
HOME OWNERSHIP PROJECTS, WHICH
IS, WHAT THE GOAL OF THIS, THIS
BILL AND PREVIOUS BILLS. I
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S WORK
AND WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S TECHNICAL
AMENDMENTS. THE HIGH COST OF
HOUSING CONSTRUCTION AND
REGULATORY DELAY HAS CONTRIBUTED
TO THE STATE'S AFFORDABILITY
CRISIS BECAUSE SUPPLY SIMPLY HAS
NOT KEPT PACE WITH DEMAND. THIS
CONSTRUCTION GRIDLOCK CONTINUES
TO DRIVE UP HOUSING COSTS AND
DRIVE DOWN CALIFORNIA'S
HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES. THIS
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS HAS BECOME
SO EXTREME THAT HOMES NOW COST
MORE THAN 8.5 TIMES THE AVERAGE
FAMILY SALARY, VERSUS ONLY 2.5
TIMES IN THE EARLY 1970S, JUST
LIKE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY HAS
DRIVEN HOME OWNERSHIP RATES DOWN
FOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, LOCAL
PLANNING RULES HAVE ALSO CREATED
BARRIERS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP. MANY
COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE
HAVE ENACTED POLICIES THAT
RESTRICT DENSER DEVELOPMENT IN
SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS,
WHICH PREVENTS THE CONSTRUCTION
OF SMALLER STARTER HOME WORKING
FAMILIES CAN AFFORD. AND THAT'S
REALLY HOW I GOT INTO WHERE IT
BECAME POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BUY A
HOUSE, WAS BOUGHT A HOME WITH A
ZERO LOT LINE, CONSTRUCTION,
SMALLER, SMALLER YARDS. IT GAVE
ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD UP
SOME EQUITY SO I COULD, WHEN MY
FAMILY GREW, MOVE IF I WANTED
TO. THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME
OWNERSHIP IS NOW OUT OF REACH
FOR MANY CALIFORNIA FAMILIES,
ESPECIALLY FAMILIES OF COLOR. TO
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, LAST YEAR
I INTRODUCED SB 684 TO
STREAMLINE THE SUBDIVISION OF
PARCELS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
SMALL SCALE HOME OWNERSHIP
PROJECTS OF UP TO TEN UNITS.
THIS IS THE EXACT SAME BILL THAT
SPEAKER RIVAS, RAN IN 2020. HIS
BUILD WAS HELD IN ASSEMBLY OF
PROPS, MY BILL, SB 684 WAS
PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND
SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR. OVER THE
COURSE OF THE FALL, I HEARD FROM
STAKEHOLDERS THE NEED TO INCLUDE
TECHNICAL AND CLARIFYING
CHANGES. SO SB 1123 INCORPORATES
THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED TO
IMPROVE IMPLEMENTATION OF SB
684. SPECIFICALLY, THIS BILL
WILL CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF
HABITABLE SQUARE FEET RELATED TO
HOUSING SIZE, ALLOW HOUSING
UNITS TO BE PART OF A TENANCY IN
COMMON TO BE HELD TENANCY IN
COMMON, AND CLARIFY THAT WHEN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CHOOSES TO
PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THEY
DO NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE
PROJECT. TEN UNIT CAP.
ADDITIONALLY, SB 1123
REESTABLISHES, THE SUBDIVISION
AND PROJECT STREAMLINING
BENEFITS FOR SMALL PROJECTS OF
TEN UNITS OR LESS ON VACANT
PARCELS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN,
THIS IS INFILL THE BILL HAS BEEN
EDITED SIGNIFICANTLY SO THAT
INFILL REALLY MEANS INFILL. YOU
CAN'T GO OUT TO OPEN LAND AND DO
THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, THERE
HAS TO BE HOUSING IN THE, IN THE
AREA, IN THE THREE CORNERS OF
THE LOT. I REMAIN COMMITTED TO
UNLOCKING OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD
SMALLER HOMES ON SMALL LOTS, TO
INCREASE HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS
AND SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS
WHICH HAVE A HISTORY OF
EXCLUDING LOW INCOME AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. BUT TO
ENSURE THE APPROPRIATE
GUARDRAILS IN PLACE, I'VE
INCLUDED THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT
MAY IMPOSE THE SAME HEIGHT
STANDARDS ON A PROJECT BEING
BUILT ON A SINGLE FAMILY PARCEL
THAT WOULD, THAT'S CONSISTENT
WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND
THE ASSEMBLY HOUSING COMMITTEE
WORKED WITH ME ON AMENDMENTS TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS OR
GUARDRAILS, INCLUDING A MORE
DETAILED DEFINITION OF WHAT
CONSTITUTES A SINGLE A VACANT
SINGLE FAMILY PARCEL THAT WOULD
BE ELIGIBLE FOR STREAMLINED,
STREAMLINED SUBDIVISIONS. THESE
GUARDRAILS WILL UNLOCK NEW
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT
ENSURE THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH
THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WITH
ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS ERIC
PAYNE FROM THE CENTRAL VALLEY
URBAN INSTITUTE AND FROM FRANCIS
MARTY WITH CALIFORNIA YIMBY.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. I WANT TO
STEP OUT OF THE ROOM
MOMENTARILY. I'M GOING TO HANDLE
THE GAVEL TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PACHECO. YEAH OKAY, PERFECT.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SO
YOU MAY PROCEED. PERFECT. THANK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, SO, MEMBER
DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE
ASSEMBLY, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS FRANCESC
MARTI, AND I REPRESENT
CALIFORNIA YIMBY, AN
ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO
ENSURING ABUNDANT, SECURE AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS. I STAND BEFORE YOU
TODAY TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG
SUPPORT FOR SB 1123, AUTHORED BY
SENATOR CABALLERO. 1123 BUILDS
ON THE PROGRESS MADE BY SB 684,
EXTENDING ITS APPLICABILITY TO
VACANT PARCELS IN SINGLE FAMILY
ZONES, ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOME
OWNERSHIP, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH
OPPORTUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS, HAS
GENERATIONAL IMPACTS. THE LACK
OF SUCH OPPORTUNITIES
PERPETUATES THE LEGACY OF
DISCRIMINATORY HOUSING POLICIES,
AND CONTINUES TO SEGREGATE
NEIGHBORHOODS BY RACE AND CLASS.
CALIFORNIA'S SEVERE HOUSING
SHORTAGE DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECTS LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN 2020,
THE AVERAGE COST OF A HOME WAS
8.5 TIMES A FAMILY'S ANNUAL
SALARY, 8.5 TIMES WITH AFRICAN
AMERICAN AND LATINO
HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THOSE
OF WHITE CALIFORNIANS. SB 1123
ADDRESSES THESE CHALLENGES HEAD
ON BY FACILITATING THE
CONSTRUCTION OF SMALLER, MORE
AFFORDABLE HOMES IN HIGH
OPPORTUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS
BILL IS ABOUT BUILDING
COMMUNITIES. IT'S ABOUT
FOSTERING DIVERSITY, ABOUT
PROMOTING ECONOMIC MOBILITY FOR
ALL CALIFORNIANS. THE CHANGES
PROPOSED IN SB 1123 WILL MAKE
SMALL HOMES FASTER, EASIER, AND
LESS EXPENSIVE TO BUILD.
INCREASING AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR
FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT
BEHIND AND LEFT OUT OF THE
CALIFORNIA DREAM ON. ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA YIMBY, I URGE YOU
TO VOTE AYE ON SB 1123. LET'S
WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A
CALIFORNIA THAT WELCOMES
EVERYBODY WHERE EVERY PERSON HAS
THE CHANCE TO LIVE IN A SAFE,
AFFORDABLE HOME IN A THRIVING
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION, GOOD
MORNING, MEMBERS AND MADAM
CHAIR. THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS
ERIC PAYNE, AND I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CENTRAL VALLEY URBAN INSTITUTE.
WE'RE A REGIONAL NONPROFIT THAT
SERVES THE NEEDS OF LOW INCOME
FAMILIES OF COLOR ACROSS THE
CENTRAL VALLEY, SPANNING FROM
KERN COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO
STOCKTON. AS AN ORGANIZATION LED
BY AND SERVING PEOPLE OF COLOR,
I'M HERE TODAY TO AS A PROUD
CO-SPONSOR OF SB 1123,
CALIFORNIA FACES A HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS THAT HAS
SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT ON
HOMEOWNERSHIP FOR MILLIONS. THIS
ESSENTIAL LEGISLATION ALONE WILL
NOT FIX OUR HOUSING PRODUCTION
CRISIS, BUT IT WILL EXPEDITE
MORE HOMES THAT ARE LOWER COST
AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FIRST
TIME HOME BUYERS. BY ENABLING
PRODUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY
HOMES OR TOWNHOMES ON LOTS THAT
ARE SMALLER AND LESS EXPENSIVE.
CALIFORNIA'S MEDIAN LOT SIZE IS
8300FT², AND RESEARCH HAS FOUND
THAT LAND COSTS MAKE UP MORE
THAN HALF OF THE PRICE OF A HOME
IN PLACES LIKE LA, SAN DIEGO,
SALINAS, SAN JOSE AND SAN
FRANCISCO. THE MATH DRIVING AB
1123 IS SIMPLE A HOME THAT COMES
WITH LESS LAND WILL COST LESS.
MANY FAMILIES WANT AND CAN
AFFORD A LARGE HOME WITH A LARGE
BACKYARD. THESE FAMILIES HAVE
PLENTY OF OPTIONS IN TODAY'S
MARKET, BUT TOO MANY CAN'T BUY A
HOME AT ALL BECAUSE AFFORDABLE
OPTIONS DON'T EXIST. MANY
FAMILIES, AND I WOULD ARGUE MANY
MORE FAMILIES OF COLOR, WOULD
LOVE TO BUY A HOME WITH LESS
LAND IF MADE. THAT CAN MAKE THE
AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP
POSSIBLE FOR THEM. SB 1123 DOES
JUST THAT, MAKING THESE TYPES OF
HOMES MUCH MORE COMMON, CREATING
INCREASED CHOICE FOR DIVERSE
FAMILIES. AND MY ORGANIZATION IS
DEEPLY INVESTED IN THIS TOPIC
BECAUSE WHILE HOME OWNERSHIP IS
THE WAY IN WHICH MOST AMERICANS
BUILD INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH,
ONLY 4 IN 10 BLACK AND LATINO
CALIFORNIANS OWN THEIR OWN HOME,
COMPARED TO THE 6 IN 10 WHITE
CALIFORNIANS. THAT'S ONE OF THE
MAIN REASONS WHY, FOR EVERY
DOLLAR OF WEALTH HELD BY A WHITE
FAMILY, BLACK AND LATINO
FAMILIES HAVE ABOUT $0.16. AND I
JUST KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. HOME
OWNERSHIP IS A BROADLY SHARED
VALUE IN CALIFORNIA AND AB 1123
REPRESENTS ONE IMPORTANT STEP IN
CREATING THE IMPORTANT,
ADMITTEDLY TECHNICAL STEPS
NEEDED TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE LOWER
COST FOR SALE HOUSING AND MAKING
THAT SHARED VALUE A REALITY.
THERE ARE NO SILVER BULLETS WHEN
IT COMES TO ADDRESSING
CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING AND HOME
OWNERSHIP CRISIS, BUT AB 1123
CREATES AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOMES AND
BUILDING WEALTH FOR EVERYDAY
CALIFORNIANS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THIS IMPORTANT
MEASURE, AND I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR POSITION.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
MICHAEL GUNNING, LIGHTHOUSE
PUBLIC. NOW I CAN GO. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
MICHAEL GUNNING, LIGHTHOUSE
PUBLIC AFFAIRS HERE IN SUPPORT
ON BEHALF OF FIELDSTEAD SPURR,
UNITED WAY, LA HABITAT FOR
HUMANITY, CALIFORNIA. BUILD
CASA. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND ARE
THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? DID YOU WANT TO SIT
UP HERE? NO. OKAY HI. ETHAN
NAGLER, ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF
HILLSBORO, WE DON'T HAVE AN
OFFICIAL POSITION. HOWEVER, WE
HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE
INCLUSION OF SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL ZONING PROVISIONS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND BILL
SPONSORS AND APPRECIATE THE
ENGAGEMENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND ARE
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES THAT
WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD IN
OPPOSITION, SEEING NONE, WOULD
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I WISH I COULD SAY THAT
THIS IS A SILVER BULLET FOR
PROVIDING HOMEOWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW FIRST TIME
HOME BUYERS, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT IS A VERY MODEST ATTEMPT TO
TAKE VACANT LAND OR LAND THAT
IS, WELL, VACANT. AND CREATE A
LITTLE BIT OF DENSITY SO THAT
THE HOMES ARE MORE REASONABLY,
REASONABLY PRICED. AND SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU, SENATOR.
AND ONCE WE ESTABLISH QUORUM, WE
WILL TAKE A VOTE. AND ON BEHALF
OF THE CHAIR AND INCLUDING
MYSELF, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, I WILL
BE VOTING. AYE AND ALONG WITH
THE CHAIR, AND THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS, AS AMENDED, TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. WELL,
ONCE WE GET A VOTE, OKAY. I MEAN
, A QUORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK
YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THANK THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. I AM THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR MAKING
THE TRIP. I REALLY APPRECIATE
IT.
NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA IS,
SENATOR WIENER, ARE YOU READY TO
PRESENT SENATE BILL 925? YOU MAY
PROCEED WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER, I GUESS IT'S
JUST YOU AND ME, SO I'M HERE TO
PRESENT SENATE BILL 925, AND I
WANT TO START OUT BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH
US. I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. I DO WANT
TO NOTE AND WANT THE RECORD TO
REFLECT THAT THE CHAIR AND I,
HAVE AGREED TO CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER ON REFINING A COUPLE OF
THE AMENDMENTS, SPECIFICALLY,
NUMBER ONE, THE AMENDMENT TO
SECTION Â ONE H, PERCEIVED
VERSUS ACTUAL RACE FOR
CONSISTENT REPORTING. AND NUMBER
TWO, SECTION F REGARDING THE
PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN TO
ALIGN WITH OTHER REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE'S NO
DISAGREEMENT HERE. WE JUST
AGREED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
REFINING THOSE TWO PROVISIONS.
BUT APART FROM THAT, WE'RE
AGREEING TO ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS, COLLEAGUES, SB 925
IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW SAN
FRANCISCO TO FOSTER A THRIVING
STREET STREET VENDING SCENE,
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
ADDRESSING THE FENCING OF STOLEN
GOODS ON OUR STREETS, A PRACTICE
THAT FUELS RETAIL THEFT AND THAT
BADLY UNDERMINES LEGITIMATE
STREET VENDING. AND YOU WILL
HEAR TODAY ABOUT THE IMPACTS
THAT THESE CRIMINAL OPERATIONS
HAVE ON LEGITIMATE STREET
VENDORS WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO
EARN A LIVING, SPECIFICALLY THE
BILL ALLOWS THE SAN FRANCISCO
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ADOPT A
LIST OF COMMONLY STOLEN GOODS
THAT ARE SOLD ON OUR STREETS AND
TO REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR ANYONE
SELLING THOSE COMMONLY STOLEN
GOODS. IF SOMEONE THEN SELLS
THESE COMMONLY STOLEN GOODS,
WITH ON THE STREET WITHOUT A
PERMIT, POLICE WOULD BE ABLE TO
ENFORCE INITIALLY VIA CITATION
AND AFTER TWO CITATIONS VIA A
POTENTIAL MISDEMEANOR, THE
MISDEMEANOR IS DESIGNED TO AVOID
IMMIGRATION CONSEQUENCES. THE
NEW CRIMINAL OFFENSES IN THE
BILL DO NOT APPLY TO THE VAST
MAJORITY OF STREET VENDORS,
INCLUDING ANYONE SELLING WITH A
PERMIT. ANYONE SELLING EVEN
GOODS ON THE LIST IF THEY HAVE A
PERMIT. AND ANYONE SELLING
PREPARED FOODS WITH OR WITHOUT A
PERMIT, IN 2018, THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED SB 946, ESTABLISHING THE
SAFE SIDEWALK VENDING ACT. I
VOTED FOR THAT BILL, AND I
CONTINUED TO SUPPORT IT. THE
MEASURE DECRIMINALIZED SIDEWALK
VENDING AND ESTABLISHED AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTY SYSTEM TO
REPLACE THE FORMER CRIMINAL
SYSTEM. THIS LAW EFFECTIVELY,
BARRED LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM
CONDUCTING INSPECTIONS OR
ENFORCING AGAINST VIOLATIONS
BASED ON LOCAL OR STATE LAWS
GOVERNING STREET VENDING. SB 946
HAS HAD MANY BENEFITS FOR THE
STREET VENDING ECONOMY, ENSURING
VENDORS CAN SELL GOODS TO THE
PUBLIC, ACTIVATE PUBLIC SPACES,
EARN A LIVING, AND MAKING SURE
THAT, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT
ABLE TO SIMPLY DESTROY THE LOCAL
STREET VENDING ECONOMY. HOWEVER,
A LIMITED NUMBER OF BAD ACTORS
IN SAN FRANCISCO HAVE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF HIGHLY CAPABLE AND
SOPHISTICATED CRIMINAL NETWORKS
TO FACILITATE THESE FENCING
OPERATIONS. A LACK OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT TOOLS HAS LEFT SAN
FRANCISCO UNABLE TO HALT THESE
CRIMINAL OPERATIONS, MANY OF
WHICH ARE TIED TO LARGER
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT RINGS.
PERMIT PERMITTED STREET VENDORS
IN THESE AREAS ARE FACING
CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT MUCH
HARDER FOR THEM TO OPERATE AND
THRIVE. THESE CRIMINAL
OPERATIONS LEAD TO HARASSMENT
AND INTIMIDATION ON OUR STREETS,
EVEN VIOLENCE CAUSING LEGITIMATE
STREET VENDORS TO BE FEARFUL.
ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT HAS
BEEN INCREDIBLY HARD AND NOT
VERY SUCCESSFUL, INDEED, WORKERS
IN THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
WORKS DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN
ASSAULTED, AND AT ONE POINT
BEGAN WEARING BULLETPROOF VESTS
TO DO THAT. ADMINISTRATIVE
ENFORCEMENT. THE SITUATION
BECAME SO SEVERE THAT SAN
FRANCISCO, SAN FRANCISCO TOOK
THE EXTRAORDINARY AND
UNFORTUNATE STEP OF ISSUING A
MORATORIUM ON ALL STREET VENDING
IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE MISSION,
LATE LAST YEAR, A MORATORIUM
BENEFITS NO. ONE. SAN
FRANCISCO'S VIBRANT CULTURE OF
STREET VENDING SUPPORTS MANY
FAMILIES AND SHOWCASES OUR
COMMUNITY'S BEAUTIFUL DIVERSITY.
BUT THAT CULTURAL RICHNESS IS
THREATENED WHEN BAD ACTORS ARE
ALLOWED TO OPENLY SELL STOLEN
GOODS IN OUR STREETS, SB 925 IS
A VERY NARROW RESPONSE THAT WILL
ALLOW SAN FRANCISCO TO FOSTER,
STREET VENDING AND PUBLIC
SAFETY. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE WITH ME TODAY.
AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS
BILL HAS BROAD SUPPORT WITHIN
THE MISSION COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A
LIST, AS YOU'VE SEEN, OF MISSION
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WITH
WHOM WE WORKED ON THIS BILL. AND
WE DELAYED INTRODUCING IT
EARLIER IN THE YEAR BECAUSE WE
WANTED TO TAKE MORE TIME TO WORK
WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE
HAVE DONE, HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY
IS RODRIGO LOPEZ, THE PRESIDENT
OF THE MISSION STREET VENDORS
ASSOCIATION, WHO WILL BE
TESTIFYING, VIA AN INTERPRETER
AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR THAT DISPENSATION. AND
SANTIAGO LERMA FROM THE SAN
FRANCISCO DEPARTMENT OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU.
YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU ALL TODAY FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF
YOU. MY NAME IS SANTIAGO LERMA,
MISSION STREET, CRISIS STREET
CRISIS COORDINATOR WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT IN SAN FRANCISCO. AND
IN MY PREVIOUS CAPACITY AS A
LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR THE
SUPERVISOR WHO REPRESENTS THE
MISSION DISTRICT. I'M THE
ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF ARTICLE 5.9.
ADDITIONALLY, I LIVED I'VE LIVED
IN THE MISSION FOR ALMOST 15
YEARS. I COME TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF THE SURGICALLY
CRAFTED BILL NARROWLY, NARROWLY
DESIGNED FOR SAN FRANCISCO'S
UNIQUE STREET FENCING PROBLEM.
IN 2018, GOVERNOR BROWN SIGNED
INTO LAW SB 946, WHICH
RESTRICTED ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY FROM ENFORCING STREET
VENDING REGULATIONS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE. IN 2021, AS WE
EMERGED FROM THE PANDEMIC, WE
BEGAN TO SEE AN INFLUX OF STREET
VENDING ON MISSION STREET AND A
LARGE INCREASE IN THE SALE OF
STOLEN GOODS ON THE SIDEWALK.
STREET VENDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
SOLIDLY EMBEDDED IN THE DNA OF
THE MISSION. WHERE TODAY, TO
THIS DAY, MOST OF LATINX FOLKS
WHO LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO
RESIDE. MOST OF THE MISSION'S
LEGACY VENDORS SOLD ARTISAN
GOODS FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRIES
AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ADDED TO
THE VIBRANCY AND CULTURE OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. IT ALSO PROVIDED
AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY FOR NEWCOMERS AND
PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A LITTLE
EXTRA MONEY TO LIVE IN THIS VERY
EXPENSIVE CITY. BY THE SUMMER OF
2021, THE MISSION CORRIDOR,
WHICH IS ONE MILE LONG AND
BOUNDED BY TWO SUBWAY STATIONS
OR BART, BECAME CROWDED AND
CHAOTIC WITH PEOPLE SELLING AND
BUYING STOLEN TOILETRIES,
UNREFRIGERATED MEAT, CLOTHES AND
EVEN HIGH END KITCHEN APPLIANCE
APPLIANCES, MOST WITH THE
SECURITY TAGS STILL ON THEM AND
OFTEN BROUGHT TO THE MISSION IN
LARGE BOXES BEARING THE NAMES OF
SOME OF THE AREA'S LARGEST
RETAILERS. MANY OF THESE FOLKS
ARRIVE IN THE MISSION VIA BART
AND BUS FROM OTHER CITIES IN THE
REGION. I HAVE LIVED IN THE
MISSION FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS AND
HAVE NEVER OBSERVED THE STREETS
IN SUCH A CONDITION, BECAUSE THE
POLICE ISSUED PEDDLERS LICENSE
WERE NO LONGER VALID, IT WAS
SOON CLEAR THAT WE NEEDED A WAY
TO REGULATE WHAT WAS BEING SOLD
ON THE STREET. THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS THEN ENACTED ARTICLE
5.9, WHICH DESIGNATED PUBLIC
WORKS AS THE PRIMARY ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY. IT WAS QUICKLY
DISCOVERED THAT PUBLIC WORKS
WOULD REQUIRE A POLICE ESCORT.
AS INSPECTORS BEGAN GETTING
THREATENED, VERBALLY ABUSED, AND
IN SOME CASES ASSAULTED. PUBLIC
WORKS HAS EVEN ISSUED
BULLETPROOF VESTS TO THEIR
INSPECTORS TO HELP SECURE THEIR
SAFETY. THE LARGE AMOUNT OF CASH
ON THE STREET ALSO BEGAN FUELING
DRUG MARKETS. AS WE SAW AN
UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF OPEN AIR
DRUG USE AND OVERDOSES IN THE
MISSION, SOMETHING NEVER BEFORE
SEEN IN THE MISSION, WHICH IS
MOSTLY NEIGHBORHOOD OF FULL OF
CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND MANY
SENIOR CITIZENS. AS CONDITIONS
ON THE STREET DETERIORATED.
SADLY, IT WAS NOT ONLY OUR
FAMILIES WHO EXPERIENCED A
CHAOTIC AND DANGEROUS STREETS,
OUR PERMITTED VENDORS, MANY OF
WHOM HAVE BEEN SELLING ON THE
STREET FOR DECADES, LOST THEIR
LOCATIONS, TAKEN BY FENCERS AND
OFTEN EXTORTED AND THREATENED BY
MEMBERS OF Ã. THIS ORGANIZED
AND SOPHISTICATED CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISE. WHEN I MYSELF AM
PRESENT ON THE STREET TO
COORDINATE INTERDEPARTMENTAL
ENFORCEMENT, I MUST CONCEAL MY
IDENTITY AND CHANGE MY CLOTHES.
OFTEN TO AVOID BEING SPOTTED BY
THE LOOKOUTS AND FOLLOWED HOME
WHERE I LIVE WITH MY FAMILY JUST
A FEW BLOCKS AWAY. IN 2023, THE
CITY WAS FORCED TO ISSUE A
TEMPORARY VENDING BAN ON MISSION
STREET BECAUSE OF THE
OVERWHELMING AND UNCONTROLLABLE
AMOUNT OF STOLEN GOODS BEING
SOLD ON THE STREET. EVEN WITH
THIS BAN IN PLACE, THE SALE OF
STOLEN GOODS CONTINUES TO BE A
MAJOR PROBLEM ON THE STREET
BECAUSE WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE
THE RESOURCES TO BE IN ALL
PLACES ALONG THE CORRIDOR, AS
SOMETIMES DOZENS AND EVEN
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ARRIVE EVERY
DAY IN THE MISSION VIA PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION TO SELL STOLEN
GOODS FROM ALL OVER THE BAY
AREA. WHEN WE LOOK TO OUR
NEIGHBORING CITIES THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA TO SEE HOW THEY
ADDRESS SIMILAR ISSUES. I'M
SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
WRAP IT UP, SO THAT WAY WE CAN
HEAR THE OTHER WITNESS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED.
OKAY. BUENOS DIAS, SENOR
PRESIDENT. MIEMBROS DE ESTE
COMITÉ NOMBRE RODRIGO LOPEZ,
TENGO EL PRESIDENTE DE LA
ASOCIACION MISSION STREET
VENDORS. THIS ORGANIZATION
REPRESENTS VENDEDORES AMBULANTES
PERMITIDOS EN EL DISTRITO DE LA
MISION IN SAN FRANCISCO. LOS
VENDEDORES AMBULANTES SOMOS UNA
PARTE VITAL DE LA CALIDAD
CULTURAL DE MUCHOS DE LOS
VECINDARIOS EN ESE ESTADO Y EL
PAIS. SOMOS PARTE DEL TEJIDO C¯
HACE DE NUESTRA SOCIEDAD Y
DESTINOS A UN LUGAR DE CULTURAL
Y PARA LOS MIEMBROS DE NUESTRA
ASOCIACION. NESSE CASO
REPRESENTA EL DISTRITO DE LA
MISION IN SAN FRANCISCO, SAN
FRANCISCO TÍNH AHORA UNA CRISIS
DE QUEEN'S BENDING VIENEN
ROBADOS A VECES SON DEZENAS O
CIENTOS DE PERSONAS QUÊ S¼
ALINEAN EN LAS CALLES VENDIENDO
LOS BIENES Y ESO PROVOCA PELEAS
Y OTROS PROBLEMAS NOSOTROS COMO
VENDEDORES AUTORIZADOS HEMOS
SIDO ATACADOS CUANDO LAS
CONDICIONES EN LAS CALLES
EMPEZARON ESO AFECTA. ESO AFECTA
A AQUELLOS C¯ HEMOS LUCHADO PARA
GARANTIZAR LA LEGITIMIDAD DE
TODOS LOS VENDEDORES CON
PERMISO. LA REALIDAD ES C¯ NO
PODEMOS VENDER EN LAS CALLES. EL
NO PODER VENDER EN LAS CALLES.
NO SE AFECTADO MUCHO COMO SABEN
HAY PROVISIONS EN ALGUNAS PARTES
DE LA CIUDAD IN SAN FRANCISCO.
SI BIEN LA CIUDAD ESTA
REDUCIENDO GRADUALMENTE LA VENTA
AMBULANTE EN EL DISTRITO DE LA
MISION SE NECESITA UN EQUIPO DE
MULTIPLES DEPARTAMENTOS DE LA
CIUDAD PARA PODER GARANTIZAR Ã
LOS VENDEDORES A OBRAS PUBLICAS.
LA SEGURIDAD IRREGULAR. LAS
ACCIONES DE LOS MALOS ACTORES
CON LA SB, NUEVE VEINTICINCO
ESPERAMOS C¯ NOS AYUDA MEJORAR
LAS CONDICIONES GENERALES Y LAS
SITUACIÓN C¯ MUCHOS DE NOSOTROS
ENFRENTAMOS EN LA CIUDAD DE SAN
FRANCISCO. NOSOTROS MIEMBROS DE
LA SITUACIÓN HEMOS SEGUIDO DE
LAS REGLAS LIMON LA LEGISLACIÓN.
QUEREMOS C¯ LA CONDICIONES EN
NUESTRA VECINDARIO MEJORA PARA
NUESTROS MIEMBROS PARA QUÊ
NUESTROS MIEMBROS PUEDEN VOLVER
A VENDER DE MANERA SEGURA EN LAS
CALLES DE SAN FRANCISCO Y
MANTENEMOS A FLOATS NECESITAMOS
EL APOYO PARA GARANTIZAR UN
ENTORNO SEGURO Y ESTRUCTURAL
PARA NUESTRO ÉXITO. EL ÉXITO DE
LAS PEQUENAS EMPRESAS Y LA
COMUNIDAD EN GENERAL, GRACIAS
POR SU TIEMPO. GOOD MORNING,
CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS RODRIGO
LOPEZ, AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF
BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE
MISSION STREET VENDORS
ASSOCIATION. OUR ORGANIZATION
REPRESENTS OVER 116 PERMITTED
STREET VENDORS IN SAN
FRANCISCO'S MISSION DISTRICT.
STREET VENDORS ARE A VITAL PART
OF THE CULTURAL VIBRANCY OF MANY
NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE AND COUNTRY. WE ARE PART
OF THE FABRIC THAT MAKES OUR
CITIES, DESTINATIONS OF TRAVEL
AND CULTURE FOR ME AND THE
MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION, THAT
AREA IS SAN FRANCISCO'S MISSION
DISTRICT, THE SAN FRANCISCO SAN
FRANCISCO HAS A CRISIS RIGHT NOW
OF THOSE WHO SELL STOLEN GOODS,
SOMETIMES IT'S DOZENS OR
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT LINE THE
STREETS SELLING STOLEN GOODS,
AND IT ATTRACTS FIGHTS AND OTHER
PROBLEMS. WE AS PERMITTED
VENDORS, HAVE GOTTEN ATTACKED
WHEN CONDITIONS ON THE STREET
GET BAD. IT IMPACTS THOSE OF US
WHO FIGHT TO MAKE A LEGITIMATE
LIVING EVERY DAY. THE REALITY IS
THAT NOT BEING ABLE TO SELL ON
THE STREETS HAS AFFECTED US A
LOT. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BANS
IN PARTS OF THE CITY. WHILE THE
CITY IS PHASING BACK VENDING IN
THE MISSION DISTRICT, IT TAKES A
COORDINATED TEAM OF MULTIPLE
CITY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING
POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS AND US. THE
VENDORS, TO ENSURE COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND REGULATE THE ACTIONS
OF BAD ACTORS. WITH SB 925, WE
HOPE IT WILL HELP US IMPROVE THE
OVERALL CONDITIONS AND SITUATION
THAT MANY OF US ARE CONFRONTED
WITH ON THE STREETS OF SAN
FRANCISCO. WE, THE MEMBERS OF
THE ASSOCIATION, HAVE FOLLOWED
THE RULES AND WE SUPPORT THE
LEGISLATION. WE WANT THE
CONDITIONS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
TO IMPROVE SO THAT OUR MEMBERS
CAN GET BACK SAFELY TO SELLING
ON THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO
AND STAY AFLOAT. WE NEED SUPPORT
TO ENSURE A SAFE AND STRUCTURED
ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR SUCCESS. THE
SUCCESS OF SMALL BUSINESSES, AND
THE SUCCESS OF OUR COMMUNITY AT
LARGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD
LIKE TO RISE? PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME, POSITION YOUR ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION. RHIANNON BALLARD
èC LAW, SAN FRANCISCO, FORMERLY
KNOWN AS UC HASTINGS LAW,
LOCATED IN THE TENDERLOIN
NEIGHBORHOOD OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING,
MADAM CHAIR. AND MEMBERS. KAREN
LANG, ON BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO
MAYOR LONDON BREED AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE BILL, I WANT TO
THANK YOUR COMMITTEE AND THE
AUTHOR FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD
TODAY. THANK YOU. Â SAN LOOPER,
DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZING
FOR THE TENDERLOIN COMMUNITY
BENEFIT DISTRICT AND WILD
SUPPORT. SOLTERO SOY, VICE
PRESIDENT, MISSION STREET
VENDORS. WE SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS ALMA
CASTELLANOS, DIRECTOR OF A
NONPROFIT IN SAN FRANCISCO WHO
SUPPORTS, SB 925 AS WE WORK WITH
SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE MISSION
STREET VENDORS. BUENOS DIAS. ME
NOMBRE ES ANA HERNANDEZ. SOY
MIEMBRO DE. E APOYO LA NUEVE DE
CINCO. ME NOMBRE ES ANDINO. SOY
VENDEDORA DE MUCHOS ANOS Y APOYO
. MUCHAS GRACIAS. TODAS LAS
PERSONAS C¯ VINIERON A APOYAR
ESTA MEDIDA DE SU PRESENCIA.
AQUI ANYBODY IN, WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE
PRIMARY WITNESSES SEEING NONE.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT
WANTS TO GO ON THE RECORD FOR
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE. I'LL
TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND I SEE ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA,
THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. AND
THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I
TYPICALLY I'M CAUTIOUS ABOUT
CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND ADDING
CERTAIN TYPES OF PENALTIES OR
POTENTIAL JAIL TIME, WHAT HAVE
YOU. BUT I ALSO KNOW THE
SITUATION THAT YOU, MY COLLEAGUE
TO MY RIGHT, THAT YOU ALL ARE
FACING IS UNIQUE, I'VE BEEN
THERE. I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE OVER
THE MANY YEARS, I'VE SEEN SO
MANY WONDERFUL VENDORS THAT ARE
THERE. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING
THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT TIME,
AS WAS MENTIONED, AND I ALSO
APPRECIATE SOME OF THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I THINK THE SUNSET
REPORT BACK THE PUBLIC INFO
CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT GIVES ME
A BETTER SENSE OF COMFORT. BUT I
ALSO WANT TO WANT TO THANK YOU,
FOR RECOGNIZING, THAT, YOU KNOW,
SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAS TO BE
DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN
SUCH A HUGE CHALLENGE, ON SOME
OF THOSE STREETS WHERE AS, AS
YOU MENTIONED, AS WAS MENTIONED,
A LOT OF THE VENDORS THAT HAVE
BEEN THERE AND IN SOME CASES FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS HAVE BEEN
PUSHED OUT, AND WE DEFINITELY
WANT TO GIVE THEM, ESPECIALLY IF
THEY'RE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT
WAY. WE WANT TO HONOR THEM AS
WELL AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF
HARD WORK AND SO I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THIS, AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO KIND OF UPDATES AS IT
GOES FORWARD. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY, THANK
YOU, TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM SAN
FRANCISCO FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD AND TO ALL OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE
HERE FROM SAN FRANCISCO, WHO
HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY
GRATEFUL FOR IN THE WAY THAT
THIS HAS COME FORWARD, IS THAT
THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SO DEEPLY
INVOLVED WITH COMING UP WITH A
SOLUTIONS THAT WILL WORK FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. I KNOW THAT SMALL
BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN A PART
OF DRAFTING THIS AS, AS A WAY
FORWARD. AND AS, AS MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SAN JOSE SAID, WE HAVE SO
MANY SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE
STRUGGLING TO STAY AFLOAT IN SAN
FRANCISCO. IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE
TO OPERATE A BUSINESS ANYWHERE
IN CALIFORNIA, BUT ESPECIALLY IN
SAN FRANCISCO, BECAUSE OF RENTS,
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT WE DO. ALSO TO ENSURE HIGH
STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO,
LABOR, WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH,
WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ENVIRONMENT. AND ALL OF THAT HAS
TO BE RESPECTED AND VALUED. AND
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT
IF THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE RIGHT
OUTSIDE OR RIGHT DOWN THE STREET
WHO ARE DOING NONE OF THAT AND
NOT PAYING TAXES. AND IN SOME
CASES WITH STOLEN GOODS AND IN
WAYS THAT REALLY MAKE IT
DIFFICULT FOR, NOT ONLY OUR,
OUR, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE ABLE TO
THRIVE AT A TIME WHERE WE ARE
STILL TRYING TO COME BACK FROM A
VERY CHALLENGING TIME THROUGH
THE PANDEMIC. SO I APPRECIATE
THE, THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS,
AND VERY STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS.
I LIVE ON MARKET STREET. I LIVE
IN THE TENDERLOIN. I KNOW THERE
ARE FOLKS FROM THE TENDERLOIN
WHO ARE HERE FROM THE MISSION
DISTRICT AND SO, I DO HOPE THAT
WE ARE ABLE TO, WITH THE SUPPORT
OF THIS LAW, AND MY COLLEAGUES
HERE ARE ABLE TO, MAKE SOME
CHANGES THAT SUPPORT OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I KNOW ARE
STRUGGLING AND ALSO SUPPORT THE
PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE TRYING
TO SELL GOODS AND WHO ARE TRYING
TO MAKE IT THEMSELVES. THIS IS
NOT ABOUT GOING AFTER OR
PUNISHING ANY SORT OF PEOPLE.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
MEET, YOU KNOW? AND SO LET'S
FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUPPORT THEM
AS WELL AND GIVE THEM LEGAL
AVENUES TO DO THAT. AND THANK
YOU, SENATOR WIENER, FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. AND WOULD LOVE TO, IF
I'M NOT ALREADY BE ADDED AS A
COAUTHOR AND AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME, WE'LL MOVE THE BILL. THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY,
BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE OWNER
COMMENTS, WE JUST ESTABLISHED A
QUORUM, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CARILLO.
PRESENT. CARILLO PRESENT.
WALDRON. HERE. WALDRON. PRESENT
IS SALLY HANEY. PRESENT. HANEY.
PRESENT CORRE. CORRE. PRESENT.
PACHECO PACHECO. PRESENT. RAMOS
RAMOS. PRESENT. WARD WILSON.
THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM
NOW. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS
THAT WANTS TO HAVE COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS FOR THE SENATOR?
SEEING NONE. SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? YES. PRIMERO
QUIERO AGRADECER A LOS
VENDEDORES C¯ VINIERON A
SACRAMENTO. HOY DIA PARA DECIR A
LA COMEDIA LÀ ESTA PASANDO EN
LAS CALLES DE LA MISION.
GRACIAS. I WANTED TO THANK THE
STREET VENDORS WHO, WHO ARE VERY
BUSY PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
MEET AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES
FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TRAVEL TO
SACRAMENTO, TO TELL THE
COMMITTEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON
THE GROUND IN SAN FRANCISCO, YOU
KNOW, AS, AS CHAIR OF THE RASSO
WHO IS HERE TODAY WILL RECALL
EARLIER IN THE YEAR, I WAS
PREPARED TO ADVANCE A DIFFERENT
VERSION OF THIS BILL. AND I
ULTIMATELY, AS I EXPRESSED TO
HER AT THE TIME, DECIDED TO PULL
BACK BECAUSE WE WEREN'T READY
AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE
INTERNAL DISSENSION WITHIN SAN
FRANCISCO AND WITHIN THE MISSION
. AND THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT
I WANTED TO BE A PART OF. AND SO
WE TOOK MULTIPLE MONTHS, AND I
WANT TO THANK SUPERVISOR RONEN
AND MAYOR BREED AND THEIR STAFFS
FOR WORKING INTENSIVELY WITH
STAKEHOLDERS, PARTICULARLY IN
THE MISSION AND WITH THE STREET
VENDORS, TO COME UP WITH A BILL
THAT'S BALANCED, THAT WILL ALLOW
US TO ADDRESS THESE VERY, VERY
REAL SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE
IMPACTING THE VENDORS
THEMSELVES, IN A WAY THAT IS NOT
GOING BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS
BEFORE, WHERE THE POLICE COULD
JUST GO IN AND REALLY UNDERMINE
STREET VENDING. STREET VENDING
IS PART OF THE DNA OF SAN
FRANCISCO. IT MAKES OUR CITY
BETTER. I SUPPORT IT, MY
CONSTITUENTS SUPPORT IT, AND
THIS BILL WILL HELP US TO HELP
THAT THAT ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM
THRIVE. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE BEFORE I MAKE MY
CLOSING STATEMENT. QUIERO
AGRADECER LOS VENDEDORES
AMBULANTES C¯ VINIERON AQUI A
JUSTIFICAR. HE C¯ EL SENADOR NOS
LEYENDO EL ESPANOL QUÊ DIJO LÀ
HABLA MUY BIEN FELICIDADES
SENADOR. ES PARTE DE LA CULTURA
TAMBIÉN. IT'S ALSO PART OF THE
CULTURE, AND WE RESPECT
EVERYBODY'S CULTURE. WE WELCOME
EVERYBODY'S CULTURE. AND WITH
THAT, I THANK YOU, SENATOR
WIENER, FOR YOUR WORK AND THE
WORK OF YOUR STAFF ON THIS BILL.
THE PROBLEMS OF SAN FRANCISCO,
THE PROBLEM THAT SAN FRANCISCO'S
EXPERIENCING WITH RETAIL THEFT
AND THE RESALE OF STOLEN ITEMS
ON THE STREET IS TROUBLING. I
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS WE
HAVE HAD ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND
YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF
THE LEGISLATION AT HAND. THANK
YOU. WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE
IN FINDING THE RIGHT BALANCE SO
THAT IN SAN FRANCISCO THAT SAN
FRANCISCO HAS MORE TOOLS TO
CURTAIL THESE ACTIVITIES WHILE
ENSURING THAT VENDORS ARE NOT
UNJUSTLY TARGETED. THANK YOU FOR
DOING THAT. AGAIN. I APPRECIATE
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH
THE COMMITTEE ON AMENDMENTS AND
YOUR COMMITMENT TO TAKE THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS IN THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AS
WELL. I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU ON
FURTHER REFINEMENTS, SO THAT THE
BILL IS CRAFTED TO MEET ITS
INTENT WITHOUT CREATING
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THE
MOTION DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
SECOND, WE HAVE A FIRST AND A
SECOND. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS THE PUBLIC
SAFETY CARILLO Ã CARILLO. AYE.
WALDRON. WALDRON. AYE. SALLY
HANEY. HANEY. AYE. CORRE CORRE.
AYE. PACHECO PACHECO. AYE.
RAMOS. RAMOS. AYE WARD. WILSON
THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES THANK YOU.
THE VOTES ON CALL WILL LEAVE THE
ROLL OPEN FOR OTHER MEMBERS TO
ADD ON. THANK YOU SENATOR. THANK
YOU. THE BILL IS OUT, BY THE
WAY, BUT WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT ALL
OPEN FOR THE OTHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THAT'S OKAY. AND I SEE
SENATOR NEWMAN, ITEM NUMBER TWO
ON THE AGENDA, SB 347 BY SENATOR
NEWMAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SB 347, A
PRAGMATIC MEASURE WHICH WILL
STREAMLINE THE DEPLOYMENT OF NEW
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE IN CALIFORNIA BY
EXEMPTING ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING AND HYDROGEN FUELING
STATIONS FROM CALIFORNIA'S
SUBDIVISION MAP ACT. BEFORE I
BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
CHAIR AND YOUR STAFF FOR THEIR
WORK ON THIS BILL AND ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS TO ENSURE
ACCURATE TERMINOLOGY AND CLARIFY
THAT AN EXEMPTION APPLIES ONLY
IF THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO
OTHER LOCAL DISCRETIONARY
APPROVAL. AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE,
THE STATE HAS FULLY COMMITTED TO
THE AMBITIOUS AND AGGRESSIVE
GOAL OF MOVING BEYOND GASOLINE
POWERED AUTOMOBILES WITH
EXECUTIVE ORDER N 7920 AND THE
ADVANCED CLEAN CARS RULE
REQUIRING THAT ALL NEW VEHICLES
SOLD IN CALIFORNIA BE ZERO
EMISSION BY THE YEAR 2035 TO
SUPPORT THE LITERALLY MILLIONS
OF NEW VEHICLES THAT CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION ESTIMATES THAT
THE STATE WILL NEED AN
ADDITIONAL 1.2 MILLION CHARGERS
OVER THE NEXT DECADE. AND
ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD, THE STATE'S
HYDROGEN FUELING NETWORK WILL
ALSO NEED TO EXPAND BY ROUGHLY
SEVEN TIMES IN ORDER TO SUPPORT
THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF FUEL
CELL VEHICLES ON OUR ROADS. BY
THAT TIME, IN ORDER TO HAVE A
CHANCE AT SUCCESSFULLY MEETING
CALIFORNIA'S GOALS, WE'LL NEED
TO TAKE PROACTIVE STEPS TO
ADDRESS THE ADMINISTRATIVE
BARRIERS THAT HAVE MADE BUILDING
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE IN CALIFORNIA,
SUCH AN ONEROUS AND COSTLY
PROCESS. TO DATE. THIS INCLUDES
ADDRESSING DELAYS CAUSED BY THE
SUBDIVISION MAP ACT, WHICH
ALLOWS LOCAL OFFICIALS TO IMPOSE
VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS AS A
CONDITION OF A PARCEL SALE OR
LEASE. BECAUSE THESE
REQUIREMENTS CAN VARY
SUBSTANTIALLY BETWEEN
JURISDICTIONS AND OFTEN ONLY
BECOME APPARENT WELL INTO THE
PERMITTING PROCESS IN A GIVEN
JURISDICTION, COMPLIANCE CAN
OFTEN IMPEDE A STATION'S
DEVELOPMENT, WITH SOME DELAYS
EXTENDING TO AS LONG AS SEVERAL
YEARS. SB 347 WILL HELP
STREAMLINE THE CONSTRUCTION OF
NEW EV CHARGING AND HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS BY EXEMPTING
THESE USES FROM THE SUBDIVISION
MAP ACT. SUCH A CHANGE WOULD BE
FULLY IN LINE WITH PREVIOUS
EXEMPTIONS GRANTED TO SUPPORT
THE DEVELOPMENT OF OTHER CLEAN
ENERGY PROJECTS, TO INCLUDE
WIND, SOLAR, BIOGAS AND GRID
BATTERY STORAGE BY REMOVING
UNNECESSARY RED TAPE. SB 347
WILL HELP SPEED UP THE
DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLICLY FUNDED
ZERO EMISSIONS INFRASTRUCTURE,
WHILE SENDING A STRONG MARKET
SIGNAL TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS
THAT CALIFORNIA REMAINS FULLY
COMMITTED TO MEETING ITS
TRANSPORTATION DECARBONIZATION
GOALS. WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY
IS DANA KENNEDY ON BEHALF OF ONE
SUCH MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE
DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER, AIR
PRODUCTS, I AM RESPECTFULLY,
RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR, AND MEMBERS, OR MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, YOU STOLE ALL
MY TALKING POINTS. SO I'M GOING
TO BE REALLY BRIEF, FAITH CONLEY
ACTUALLY FILLING IN FOR THIS.
OKAY. BE AMENABLE. DANA, TODAY,
WITH WHITMAN GROUP ON BEHALF OF
AIR PRODUCTS, AIR PRODUCTS IS
PROUD TO SUPPORT CALIFORNIA'S
GOAL OF GETTING OF SELLING ALL
ALL, FUEL, LOW CARBON FUEL
VEHICLES IN THE STATE BY 2035.
IN FACT, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO
WORKING IN CALIFORNIA, TO
INCLUDE THE STATE STATE'S ENERGY
GOALS IN RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT OF
$50 BILLION, $15 BILLION
INVESTMENT IN CALIFORNIA ON
VARIOUS ENERGY PROJECTS AS WELL
AS GLOBALLY, SO WE'RE PROUD HERE
TO BE HERE TODAY AND SUPPORT SB
347. WE BELIEVE IT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD HITTING
THAT 2035 GOAL, BUT ALSO, WE
BELIEVE THAT THE ADOPTION OF
FUEL CELL VEHICLES IS PARAMOUNT
TO HELPING CALIFORNIA REACH THAT
ZEV GOAL, AND THE SUBDIVISION
MAP ACT HAS PROVEN TO ACTUALLY
BE A PRETTY VERITABLE SOURCE OF
DELAYS, IN REACHING THAT GOAL
AND PLACING THESE HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS AS WELL AS
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATIONS, AS SENATOR NEWMAN
SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL
BILLS IN THE PAST TO INCLUDE
CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS OF
SUBDIVISION MAP ACT. I DO WANT
TO MAKE A REALLY IMPORTANT NOTE
THAT THIS DOES NOT TAKE THE
PLACE OF VERY IMPORTANT, ABIDING
BY CERTAIN, ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATIONS, HEALTH AND SAFETY
REGULATIONS. THE AMENDMENT WE'RE
TAKING IN COMMITTEE TODAY, IS
VERY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAINING,
THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE
PUBLIC. AND I THINK IT'S A
REALLY IMPORTANT FACT THAT,
VARIOUS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE
NEUTRAL ON THIS BILL. SO WITH
THAT, I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE, GOOD MORNING, STEVE
WALLACH ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER
FOR TRANSPORTATION AND
ENVIRONMENT, K¾T IS A MEMBER
BASED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
THAT FOSTERS COLLABORATIVE
EFFORTS PROCESS TO ADVANCE
CLEAN, SUSTAINABLE
TRANSPORTATION AND ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES, THEIR MEMBERS
INCLUDE VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS,
TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES, FUEL CELL
MANUFACTURERS, ENERGY SUPPLIERS,
TRANSIT AGENCIES, AND
UNIVERSITIES. K¾T AND ITS
PARTNERS WORK TO DEVELOP FUEL
CELL AND BATTERY ELECTRIC
BUSSES, TRUCKS, AND CARGO
HANDLING EQUIPMENT. THEY ALSO
WORK WITH THEIR PARTNERS TO
SITES AND, BUILD HYDROGEN
FUELING AND CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE, SB 347 WOULD,
PROVIDE A LIMITED EXEMPTION TO
THE MAP ACT. THIS WILL ASSIST IN
STREAMLINING THE DEVELOPMENT AND
FUELING FACILITIES, AND HELP
CONTROL COSTS AND MAINTAIN
PROJECT TIMELINES. WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL, AND HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? GOOD MORNING, THERESA
COOKE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN COALITION,
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN BUSINESS
COUNCIL AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, JULIE MALINOWSKI, ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION
COALITION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION SEEING NONE. BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE, SENATOR? THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. MEMBERS, THIS IS
A COMMON SENSE MEASURE. THE
CLOCK IS TICKING AGAINST OUR
GOALS, ESPECIALLY AGAINST THE
AGGRESSIVE TIMELINES THAT WE'VE
IMPOSED. THIS WILL BE VERY
HELPFUL IN HELPING THE STATE AND
ALL THE AFFECTED AGENCIES AND
PARTICIPANTS IN DECARBONIZING
CALIFORNIA'S TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM. TO MEET THOSE GOALS, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU. AND, THE CHAIR SAYS
TO ALSO THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR
YOUR WORK AND YOUR WORK ON THE
STAFF AT THE COMMITTEE ON THIS
BILL. AND WITH THE AMENDMENTS HE
WILL BE RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL TO PASS AS
AMENDED. MOTION IS DUE. PASS AS
AMENDED. WALDRON. Ã. WALDRON.
AYE. IS SALLY HANEY. HANEY. AYE
CORRE. CORRE AYE. PACHECO CHICO.
AYE. RAMOS. RAMOS AYE. WARD.
WILSON. CARRILLO THANK YOU. NEXT
TIME. THANK YOU. MEMBERS. THE
BILL IS OUT AND WE WILL KEEP THE
ROLL OPEN FOR AN ENS. THANK YOU.
YES, SIR. YES. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
AGAIN.
OKAY. SENATOR DURAZZO, YOU ARE
NEXT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT THE ORDER HERE. YAY
YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE
SOMEBODY. I WAS WORRIED SOMEBODY
ELSE WAS GOING TO WALK IN. OKAY,
READY? SHALL I PROCEED? OKAY
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS, I'M HERE TO PRESENT OUR
BILL. SB 1325, IT SIMPLIFIES THE
PUBLIC CONTRACTING PROCESS FOR
STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES BY
CREATING AN AUTHORIZING STATUTE
FOR BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT, BEST
VALUE PROCUREMENT DIFFERS FROM
OTHER MODELS, SUCH AS THE LOWEST
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, BY ALLOWING
FACTORS IN ADDITION TO PRICE TO
BE EVALUATED AND SCORED WITHIN
THE BID PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN
LOS ANGELES, LÀ METRO IS
ADVANCING INCREDIBLE BENEFITS
FOR OUR COMMUNITY BY APPLYING A
FORM OF BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT
TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF
CONTRACTS. IN 2018, LA METRO
COMMITTED TO IMPLEMENTING A
MANUFACTURING CAREERS POLICY TO
CREATE GOOD JOBS AND ADVANCE
EQUITY THROUGH THE AGENCY'S
PURCHASES OF MANUFACTURED
TRANSIT EQUIPMENT. THIS POLICY
WILL SUPPORT TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF U.S. JOBS AS LA METRO
REPLACES ITS ENTIRE FLEET. THE
LEGISLATURE HAS AUTHORIZED THE
USE OF BEST VALUE ON AN AD HOC
BASIS FOR SPECIFIC ENTITIES AND
CONTEXTS. THIS CAUSES CONFUSION
AND ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN. THE
AD HOC CONTRACTING AUTHORITY,
WHICH IS OFTEN DONE IN VERY
DIFFERENT SECTORS, SECTIONS OF
STATE CODE, MAKES IT DIFFICULT
FOR AGENCIES TO UNDERSTAND
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO ADOPT BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT MODELS. SOME
AGENCIES HAVE EXPLICIT
PERMISSION TO UTILIZE BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT, WHILE OTHERS DO
NOT. SOME HAVE AUTHORIZATION,
BUT ONLY UNDER SPECIFIC
CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS BILL
EMPOWERS CITIES, THE STATE AND
PUBLIC AGENCIES TO USE OUR
PUBLIC DOLLARS TO CREATE QUALITY
PRODUCTS AND HIGH PAID JOBS,
WHILE ADVANCING ACCESS FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS. TODAY, I HAVE WITH
ME, EMILY GARTENBERG WITH JOBS
TO MOVE AMERICA, AND SARA PHLOX
FROM THE CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU, SENATOR. MY NAME
IS EMILY GARTENBERG WITH THE
NONPROFIT JOBS TO MOVE AMERICA,
AND I'M HONORED TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF SB 1325 WITH YOU HERE
TODAY. BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT
ALLOWS AGENCIES TO EVALUATE AND
SCORE IMPORTANT FACTORS LIKE
ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY
BENEFITS, IN ADDITION TO PRICE
WITHIN THE BID PROCESS. BUT AS
SENATOR ALSO MENTIONED,
CURRENTLY THE BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT IS AUTHORIZED ON A
VERY CONFUSING AND PATCHWORK
BASIS THROUGHOUT STATE CODE, AND
THIS REALLY CAUSES A LOT OF
CONFUSION FOR AGENCIES WHO HAVE
INDICATED THAT THEY DO WANT TO
USE BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT, BUT
ARE NERVOUS THAT THEY DO NOT
HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO SO.
ALSO, MANY AGENCIES ARE UNSURE
IF THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO BEST
VALUE PROCUREMENT THIS YEAR AND
UNABLE TO DO IT NEXT YEAR AS
THEIR AUTHORIZATIONS EXPIRE,
WHICH REALLY JUST CAUSES A LOT
OF CONFUSION AND CONSTERNATION
AMONG STATE AGENCIES, LOCAL
AGENCIES AND AMONG THE BIDDERS
WHO WANT TO HAVE SOME DEGREE OF
KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING
TO BE ABLE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN
COMING YEARS AS THEY PURSUE
PUBLIC BIDS. SB 1325 REMOVES
THIS CONFUSION BY AUTHORIZING
PUBLIC ENTITIES TO ADOPT BEST
VALUE PROCUREMENT ON CONTRACTS.
OVER $250,000, AND TO CONTINUE
TO HIGHLIGHT THE EXAMPLE OF LA
METRO THAT SENATOR DURAZO RAISED
THE MANUFACTURING CAREERS
POLICY, WHICH IS LA METRO'S
VERSION OF A BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT POLICY, HAS HAD
REALLY RADICAL AND REALLY
EXCITING IMPACTS ON LA COUNTY
AND ON LA COUNTY'S WORKING
PEOPLE, NOTABLY, THIS POLICY HAS
DIRECTLY LED TO THE CREATION OF
HUNDREDS OF GOOD UNION JOBS IN
TWO DIFFERENT ELECTRIC BUS
MANUFACTURING FACILITIES IN LA
COUNTY IN LANCASTER, CALIFORNIA.
THIS POLICY LED TO A CARD CHECK
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ELECTRIC
BUS MANUFACTURER BYD, ALSO NOW
KNOWN AS RIDE AND SMART LOCAL
105, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT
OF A FIRST IN THE NATION
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR
ELECTRIC BUS MANUFACTURING AND
TARGETED CAREER PATHWAYS FOR
INDIVIDUALS FACING BARRIERS TO
EMPLOYMENT. PASSING SB 1325
PAVES THE WAY TO LEVERAGE OUR
PROCUREMENT POWER TO CREATE
QUALITY JOBS FOR CALIFORNIANS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS
SARA FLOCKS, CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION, IN STRONG SUPPORT.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR HER YEARS OF WORK ON THIS
ISSUE, WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT
ALL OF THE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT
WE SPEND CREATE GOOD UNION JOBS,
THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
CLEAN ENERGY AND CHIPS ACT BILLS
ARE GOING TO BRING OVER THE NEXT
YEARS, $180 BILLION TO
CALIFORNIA. A LOT OF THAT IS
GOING TO BE IN PROCUREMENT. WE
HAVE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME
OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD
MANUFACTURING WITH GOOD UNION
JOBS IN THE STATE AND
PROCUREMENT IS THE TOOL THAT THE
STATE HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT
MANUFACTURING IS HERE AND THAT
IT IS CREATING THOSE GOOD UNION
JOBS THAT HELP US ADDRESS THE
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS THAT
CALIFORNIANS ARE FACING. AND
GROWING INCOME INEQUALITY. THIS
BILL IS A SMALL STEP FORWARD,
BUT IT IS A CRITICAL STEP
BECAUSE IT IS OPENING UP THE
POSSIBILITY FOR BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT AND FOR ENSURING
THAT WE HAVE GOOD LABOR
STANDARDS ON ALL OF THE PUBLIC
DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT. WE URGE
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS, BOB REEB WITH REEB
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS ON BEHALF
OF WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT
IN SUPPORT TO MIKE ZUBIATE WITH
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
IN SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. MARCUS
DETWILER WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE, OPEN IT
TO COMMITTEE, MR. KHÓ. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND THANK YOU,
SENATOR, FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL. AND IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND? ALL RIGHT. I SENATOR
RAZA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONTINUED WORK, IN THIS SPACE,
WE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK
IN THE DAY WHEN IT USED TO BE
LOWEST BIDDER, THE LOWEST
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. AND THE
REALITY IS THAT, QUITE
OFTENTIMES WE FIND THAT CHEAPEST
IS CERTAINLY NOT THE BEST VALUE.
AND I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE USING TAXPAYER,
RESOURCES RESPONSIBLY AND THAT
MEANS, GETTING THE BEST VALUE,
FOR THAT, FOR THAT TAX DOLLAR,
WHICH IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT
THAN THE CHEAPEST THING YOU CAN
GET. AND SO THIS IS A VERY THIS
IS CERTAINLY A COMMON SENSE
MEASURE. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
WORK IN THIS SPACE. AND I JUST
WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, MADAM
CHAIR, SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO THANK
YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU
DO, YOU KNOW, WATCHING OUT FOR
OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THIS IS
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE IN
THIS COMING FROM LÀ. IT'S A
SEISMIC SHIFT HERE IN THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE
BEFORE US. AND SO IT'S UP TO US
TO CREATE THOSE BETTER JOBS. BUT
IT'S ALSO NOT MANDATING ANYTHING
SPECIFIC. OTHER THAN YOU HAVE
THE AUTHORITY TO USE BEST VALUE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL
ABOUT. SO APPRECIATE APPRECIATE
EVERYBODY AND ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU, CHAIR CARRILLO
WANTED TO BE SURE I THOUGHT YOU
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING YOUR
BILL. AND HE WILL HAS
RECOMMENDED AN AYE
RECOMMENDATION. AND I WOULD ALSO
LIKE TO ADD THAT I ADMIRE YOU AS
AN AUTHOR AND THE THOUGHTFUL
WORK THAT YOU BRING FORWARD. SO
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO
APPROPRIATION. CARILLO WALDRON A
WALDRON. AYE. IS SALLY HANEY.
HANEY. AYE. CORA CARRA. AYE.
PACHECO. PACHECO. AYE RAMOS.
RAMOS. I WARD. WILSON. OKAY, WE
ARE AT FIVE ZERO. THE BILL IS
OUT AND WE WILL LEAVE THE ROLL
OPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES.
YES SENATOR ARCHULETA, SB 1418.
NOTHING'S HAPPENING. QUICKLY.
HOW ARE WE DOING, BOSS? OKAY
OKAY. MAYOR WELL. GOOD MORNING,
MADAM VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS, I AM SO PROUD TO
PRESENT MY BILL WITH YOU ALL
TODAY. AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR WHAT YOU
DO AND YOUR PATIENCE ALL DAY
LONG WITH US, SENATE BILL 1418
IS REGARDING HYDROGEN FUELING
STATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE CHAIR AND, AND
EVERYONE IN THE COMMITTEE
WORKING WITH MY STAFF ON THIS
BILL, AND NOTE THAT I'M VERY
HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS AS OUTLINED
ON PAGE FIVE OF THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. AS CHAIR MYSELF OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE OF HYDROGEN
ENERGY, THAT HAS COME TO MY
ATTENTION THAT A PIVOTAL
COMPONENT IN OUR TRANSITION
TOWARDS CLEANER, MORE
SUSTAINABLE MODE OF
TRANSPORTATION, HYDROGEN FUELING
STATIONS ARE AT TIMES NOT BEING
BUILT OR UNNECESSARILY DELAYED
DUE TO AN OVERLY BURDENSOME
PERMITTING PROCESS. AND THAT IS
THE ISSUE. THE BURDENING
PERMITTING PROCESS. SENATE BILL
1413 ADDRESSES THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE AS HYDROGEN HAS SHOWN
GREAT POTENTIAL TOWARDS
DECARBONIZING OUR TRANSPORTATION
SECTOR. SENATE BILL 1418
TRANSCENDS SIMPLE LOCAL
ORDINANCES OR MUNICIPAL
CONCERNS, AND RATHER ADDRESSES A
STATEWIDE IMPERATIVE. THIS BILL
RECOGNIZES THE VITAL NEED FOR
CONSISTENT STANDARDS ACROSS ALL
JURISDICTIONS TO FACILITATE THE
PROMPT AND COST EFFECTIVE
DEPLOYMENT OF THESE CRITICAL
ZERO EMISSION FUELING STATIONS.
SENATE BILL 1418 UNDERSCORES OUR
LEGISLATIVE COMMITMENT TO
FOSTERING ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE MITIGATING
BARRIERS TO THE INSTALLATION OF
HYDROGEN FUELING STATIONS.
SENATE BILL 1418 BRINGS PARITY
TO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
PERMITTING PROCESS BY
STREAMLINING THE ADMINISTRATIVE
APPROVAL PROCESS FOR HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS IN THE SAME WAY
THAT WE DO FOR CHARGING STATIONS
, SPECIFICALLY, SENATE BILL 1418
MANDATES THAT CITIES AND
COUNTIES MUST ADOPT AN ORDINANCE
AND CHECKLISTS THAT CREATES AN
EXPEDITED, STREAMLINED,
PERMITTING PROCESS FOR HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS. THIS DIRECTIVE
IS DESIGNED TO EXPEDITE
PROCEDURES AND ENSURE THAT
CITIZENS HAVE ACCESS TO CLEAN
ENERGY OPTIONS WITHOUT
UNNECESSARY ADMINISTRATIVE
BURDENS AND HURDLES. WHILE
SENATE BILL 1418 STREAMLINES THE
PERMITTING PROCESS, HEALTH AND
SAFETY REMAINS TOP PRIORITY. MY
PREVIOUS BILL, SENATE BILL 1291,
WHICH PASSED AND WAS SIGNED BY
THE GOVERNOR, ENSURED HYDROGEN
FUELING STATION PERMITS ADHERE
TO STRINGENT HEALTH, SAFETY AND
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. SENATE
BILL 1418 KEEPS THESE CORE
COMPONENTS IN PLACE. FURTHERMORE
TO ADDRESS PHYSICAL AND
PROCEDURAL CONCERNS, SENATE BILL
1418 PHASES IN ITS REQUIREMENTS
SO THAT MOST CITIES AND COUNTIES
IN THE STATE WILL NOT HAVE TO
DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE UNTIL
SEPTEMBER OF 2028, WELL AFTER
GO-BIZ RELEASES ITS MODEL,
ORDINANCE AND CHECKLIST FOR
HYDROGEN FUELING STATIONS AND
PERMITTING. IN CONCLUSION,
CALIFORNIA HAS MORE FUEL CELL,
ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND HYDROGEN
STATIONS NECESSARY TO FUEL THEM
THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE
NATION. WE ARE TRULY LOOKING OUT
FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WITH
CALIFORNIA'S RECENT SUCCESS IN
SECURING SUBSTANTIAL FEDERAL
FUNDING FOR CLEAN, RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN INCENTIVES THROUGH THE
ALLIANCE FOR RENEWABLE, CLEAN
HYDROGEN ENERGY SYSTEMS, ALSO
KNOWN AS ARCHES, THE TIMELY
PASSAGE OF SENATE BILL 1418 IS
ESSENTIAL TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE
OF THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS TO
EXPEDITE THE DEVELOPMENT AND
DEPLOYMENT OF HYDROGEN
INFRASTRUCTURE IN TURN
FACILITATING FACILITATING OUR
STATE'S TRANSITION TO A CLEANER
TRANSPORTATION FUTURE. SENATE
BILL 1418 REPRESENTS A PIVOTAL
STEP TOWARDS REALIZING OUR
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP
OBLIGATIONS AND ADVANCING OUR
SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION
OBJECTIVES. FOR THESE REASONS, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE AND TODAY IN SUPPORT. WITH
ME IS TERESA COOK, REPRESENTING
THE CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN
COALITION. WHO CAN ALSO ASSIST
IN ANSWERING ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SENATOR.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS. TERESA
COOK, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN COALITION.
VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY. I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR AGAIN
FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS
IMPORTANT BILL EASING AND
EXPEDITING HYDROGEN FUELING
INFRASTRUCTURE. UNBEKNOWNST TO
MANY, CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF THE
TOP THREE HYDROGEN PRODUCING
STATES. WE HAVE MORE THAN 100
YEARS EXPERIENCE SAFELY MAKING,
MOVING AND USING HYDROGEN AND
ARE EXCITED FOR THE ROLE IT WILL
PLAY. DECARBONIZING ENERGY AND
TRANSPORTATION. NOTHING IN 1418
UPENDS THE PROJECT'S NEED TO
MEET HEALTH AND SAFETY
REQUIREMENTS. RATHER, IT
PROVIDES UP FRONT TRANSPARENCY
OF THESE NEEDS AND PROVIDES A
PREDICTABLE PROCESS FOR THE
PERMITTING OF THESE PROJECTS.
CALIFORNIA HAS THE VERY WORST
RATIO OF HYDROGEN FUELING
STATIONS TO VEHICLES ON THE
ROAD. OUR CLIMATE ALLIES IN
GERMANY, JAPAN AND ELSEWHERE
HAVE FAR MORE STATIONS IN PLACE
PER VEHICLE. CALIFORNIA FRANKLY,
IS VERY FAR BEHIND. AND YET WE
HAVE THE MOST AGGRESSIVE,
STATUTORILY BINDING CLIMATE AND
TRANSPORTATION GOALS. AND SO FOR
THESE REASONS, 1418 IS GOING TO
GO A LONG WAY TO RIGHT THIS
WRONG. AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE
YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. MADAM
VICE CHAIR JACKIE ONIS, ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA FUELS
AND CONVENIENCE ALLIANCE IN
SUPPORT. DAN CHAU, ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
OKAY. TIME FOR WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION TO TESTIFY. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. HI ONLY ONE OF
YOU. RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. DAYMON
CONKLIN WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES, I ALWAYS TRY
TO AVOID, ARGUING AND DEBATING.
TERESA COOK AND THE GOOD
SENATOR, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WITH
THIS PARTICULAR BILL, WE DO HAVE
SOME STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WITH
IT, WE BASICALLY CAL CITY, YOU
KNOW, WE SUPPORT
TRANSPORTATION'S DECARBONIZATION
EFFORTS IN THE, IN THE
TRANSPORTATION SPACE, AND WE
OFTEN ALIGN OURSELVES WITH
HYDROGEN FUEL CELL PARTNERSHIPS,
OVERALL GOALS. ESPECIALLY WHEN
WE'RE LOOKING TO, DECARBONIZE
OUR PUBLIC FLEETS FOR THE MEDIUM
AND HEAVY SIZED DUTY SPACE, WE
FEEL THAT FUEL CELL IS ACTUALLY
A MUCH SUPERIOR, NOT ONLY
VEHICLE, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR SCALING IS PREFERABLE THAN
ELECTRIFICATION. HOWEVER, THE
PROLIFERATION OF EVS IS NOT
BECAUSE OF STATE LEGISLATION
USURPING LOCAL, PERMITTING
REVIEW. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE
PRIVATE SECTOR REALLY LEANING
IN, AND INVESTING IN THE SPACE
IN THE VEHICLES BEING
MANUFACTURED. INFRASTRUCTURE TO
SUPPORT IT, GOVERNMENT GRANTS TO
ENCOURAGE THIS GROWTH. THIS
PARTICULAR BILL. SEVEN 1418, IS
PREDICATED ON THIS FALSE PREMISE
THAT LOCAL PERMITTING PROCESS
REPRESENTS THE BARRIER, WHAT ARE
THE BARRIERS, THE COST TO
CONSTRUCT PRODUCE STORAGE,
COMPRESSION, DISPENSE, END USERS
PAYING FOUR TIMES AT THE PUMP
THAN GASOLINE. ALSO, THE STATE
CONTINUES TO PLACE WHAT WE
BELIEVE IS ITS THUMB ON THE
SCALE UNFAIRLY. IN IN FAVORING
ELECTRIC VEHICLES, IT SHOULD BE
TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL AND SUPPORT
HYDROGEN. CALTRANS HAS IN THIS
BUDGET THAT'S JUST BEEN PASSED A
HALF $1 BILLION TO ELECTRIFY
OVER 2100 VEHICLES FOR THEIR
MEDIUM TO HEAVY DUTY FLEETS, CEC
IS PROPOSING TO REALLOCATE
SHELLS RETURNED GRANTS TO EV
INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT HYDROGEN.
WE'RE OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT WHAT
IS THE STATE OF HYDROGEN? WE. AS
OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE
55 HYDROGEN STATIONS. WE HAVE 18
THAT ARE BEING PERMITTED. TWO IN
THE CONSTRUCTION, FOUR BEING
PROPOSED WITH MORE BEING
WITHDRAWN THAN ACTUALLY, BEING
SUBMITTED IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.
SO WHY PROPOSE A STATEWIDE
POLICY THAT WHEN WE CURRENTLY
HAVE THIS DEARTH OF PERMITS IN
THE IN THE SHOOT, AND SO, YOU
KNOW, THE ANALYSIS NOTES THAT
THE 2023 ANNUAL HYDROGEN
EVALUATION, I THINK, RELEASED IN
DECEMBER. SO IT'S ONLY SEVEN
MONTHS OLD, POINTED TO, BARRIERS
AS BEING SITE SELECTION,
SECURING LANDS, UTILITY
CONNECTION TIMELINES. BUT WHEN
NOTING THE LOCAL PERMITTING AS A
POTENTIAL BARRIER, IT CITES 1291
PREMISED ON THE NARRATIVE THAT
LOCAL PERMITTING IS THE BARRIER.
SO THERE'S NO THERE HASN'T BEEN
ANY ACTUAL SPECIFIC. THERE MIGHT
BE ANECDOTAL, THERE MIGHT BE A
BAD ACTOR. AND THAT'S A
DIFFICULT CONVERSATION THAT WE
MAY HAVE WITH ONE OF OUR
MEMBERS, BUT IT'S NOT THIS
WIDESPREAD ISSUE. WE'RE
PROPOSING A, AS WE DID IN THE
SENATE, A MORE TARGETED,
INCREMENTAL APPROACH, WE'RE
LOOKING AT HAVING THE PROVISIONS
OF 1418 APPLY TO APPLICATIONS
WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A STATE
HIGHWAY TRANSIT CORRIDOR OR
FREEWAY, LET'S LOOK AT THAT FOR
A FEW YEARS TO SEE HOW THAT
HELPS THE MARKET. THIS IS WHERE
THE APPLICATIONS ARE. NOT RULE
PERMITTING. AUTHORITIES THAT
WILL NEVER SEE AN APPLICATION
ACROSS THEIR DESK. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
THAT THE BILL BE AMENDED. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD
MORNING, KENDRA HARRIS WITH THE
CLIMATE CENTER AND REPRESENTING
THE CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SEEING NO OTHER OPPOSITION,
BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS. COMMENTS? YES, MISS
PACHECO? YES, TO SENATOR, THANK
YOU FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THIS
AREA. HYDROGEN IS IMPORTANT, BUT
I DO. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM
YOU. AS TO YOUR PERSPECTIVE,
WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE
OPPOSITION JUST MENTIONED RIGHT
NOW, WHAT IS YOUR INPUT AS TO
WHAT THEY'VE JUST SAID? WELL I
THINK WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND FOR JUST A MINUTE,
YOU KNOW, IMAGINE CALIFORNIA
WITH THIS TREASURE CHEST OF
ENERGY, AND WE'VE GOT TO USE
EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN. THE
GOVERNOR HAS SET DOWN THESE
GOALS THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE THE
ZERO EMISSION. BUT IF WE DON'T
INCLUDE HYDROGEN AND IT'S ALL
ELECTRIC, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK
. AND, ASSEMBLY MEMBER, YOU KNOW
, YOU AND I BOTH SHARE OUR
DISTRICTS AND I CAN CITE
FOOTHILL TRANSIT. THEY JUST
BOUGHT 39 BUSSES, FUEL CELL,
BATTERY, HYDROGEN. CITY OF
MONTEBELLO, IS COMMITTED TO GET
19 BUSSES, AS HYDROGEN STARTS TO
EVOLVE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO
CATCH UP. AND SO ONE DAY, FREE
ENTERPRISE WILL SAY, I'M GOING
TO PUT A FUELING STATION. AND
THIS CITY OR THIS CITY. AND IF
YOU READ THE ANALYSIS, WE'RE
ONLY RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT
CITIES WITH 250,000 OR MORE. I
DON'T HAVE A CITY IN MY DISTRICT
WITH 250,000 OR MORE. SO THE
CITY IS BELOW, WHICH ARE
CONTRACT CITIES AND SOME OF THE
OTHERS THAT WON'T TAKE EFFECT
UNTIL 2028. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF
TIME. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THOSE THAT
HAVE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE
CREATED IN THE CITIES, THEY'VE
REPORTED BACK THAT THE
MUNICIPALITY HAS ASKED FOR
SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING AND TREES
AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER AND
EXPENDITURE IN THE AMOUNT OF
$500,000 BEFORE THEY EVEN DID
ANYTHING. SO IF WE'VE ANALYZED
IT THAT IF WE OPEN THE DOORS FOR
HYDROGEN, OBVIOUSLY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AGREES WITH
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A
GRANT OF $1.5 BILLION FOR THE
ARCHES, AND THAT MEANS THAT IT'S
GOING TO COME. WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE OUR BOATS, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TRAINS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
CARS, OUR VEHICLES, BUSSES. IT'S
GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE. SO
ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING, LET'S
GET THE PAPERWORK READY AND
CITIES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE,
LET'S PUT THAT ORDINANCE
TOGETHER. AND THOSE CITIES THAT
FEEL THAT IT'S NOT THERE BECAUSE
THERE'S NO CUSTOMER. THEN FINE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY KNOCKS
ON THE DOOR, THE ORDINANCE
SHOULD BE READY TO GO. THAT'S
WHAT IT IS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE
NOT TALKING ABOUT MANUFACTURING
AND PRODUCTION OR THAT'S NOT
THIS BILL. THIS BILL IS ONLY
PAPERWORK. AND THAT I'VE TALKED
WITH EVERY CITY MANAGER IN MY
DISTRICT, AND I KNOW THEY'RE ALL
FOR IT. AND THE CITY OF INDUSTRY
IN OUR DISTRICT IS NOW YOU DON'T
HAVE THE CITY OF INDUSTRY, CITY
OF INDUSTRY IN MY DISTRICT.
THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO LOOK
AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
THEY'RE JOINING VENTURE WITH THE
COMPANY. THAT WAS JUST BEFORE
US, A FEW MINUTES AGO WITH
SENATOR NEWMAN. SO SLOWLY BUT
SURELY, IT'S HAPPENING IF WE
WANT CLEAN ENERGY, HYDROGEN IS
THE WAY TO GO. AND I'VE SAID
THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, IF I
HAD A DROP OF GASOLINE ON THIS
DESK AND PUT A DROP OF HYDROGEN
ON THIS SPOT AND I LIT A MATCH,
THIS WOULD BURN RIGHT THROUGH,
THE HYDROGEN WOULD DISSIPATE.
IT'S SAFE. IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR
OURSELVES TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE
AND BE PART OF IT. SO WITH THAT,
I URGE THE AYE VOTE. AND I'D
LIKE TO. AND I KNOW WHAT THE
OPPOSITION IS SAYING IS ABOUT
THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT
IT'S, THAT'S. YEAH THEY SAID A
LOT MORE THAN THE PERMITTING
PROCESS. I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF
THE ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? MAYBE
YOUR YOUR WITNESS WOULD LIKE TO
RESPOND TO THAT. YES, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYWOMAN, I HAVE
TO TELL YOU, DAMON, HALF OF WHAT
YOU SAID, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE
WITH HE AND I ARE, YOU KNOW, ON
THE SAME PAGE ON A LOT OF THE
ISSUES RELATED TO HYDROGEN, I
THINK WHAT'S WORTH MENTIONING IS
THAT THE CITIES ARE NOT WITHOUT
RESOURCES, AND COUNTIES ARE NOT
WITHOUT RESOURCES. WHEN IT COMES
TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO
STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING OF
THESE PROJECTS OR WHAT SHOULD BE
ON A RECOMMENDED CHECKLIST FOR
THESE STATIONS UP FRONT. SO TO
THE SENATOR'S POINT, IT IS A
PAPER EXERCISE THAT IS NOT
SOLELY ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO DO
THE DEEP WORK ON TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE
REQUIREMENTS ARE. THERE IS
SUPPORT THERE, DAMON'S
RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING
PERMITTED BENEFITS WITHIN FIVE
MILES OF A HIGHWAY OR A FREEWAY,
KIND OF BRINGS ME BACK TO THE
GOOD OLD DAYS OF THE
SCHWARZENEGGER HYDROGEN HIGHWAY.
SO WE ALL REMEMBER THAT HE WAS A
BIG PROPONENT OF THE TECHNOLOGY
FAR BEFORE IT WAS READY. YOU
KNOW, CIRCA 2008. AND THE
CONCEPT THERE WAS THAT WE WOULD
LOCATE HYDROGEN FUELING STATIONS
ALONG MAJOR HIGHWAY CORRIDORS,
AND WE LEARNED A LESSON IN THAT
EXERCISE THAT THE WAY THAT THESE
VEHICLES ARE DRIVEN AND THE
PEOPLE WHO DRIVE THEM, THESE
FUELING STATIONS NEED TO BE IN
OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT NECESSARILY
ALONG FREEWAY CORRIDORS. AND SO
I'M AFRAID THAT PUTTING A FIVE
MILE LIMIT ON THE PERMITTING,
WHEN THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE
UTILIZATION PRACTICE THAT THE
MARKET IS DOING TODAY, WOULD
TAKE A LOT OF THE BENEFIT OF
THIS BILL OUT OF THE SITUATION.
I DO THINK IT'S WORTH
MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, DAMON,
DAMON IS RIGHT. PERMITTING IS
NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM PLAGUING
THE HYDROGEN COMMUNITY BY ANY
MEANS, BUT IT IS ONE OF THEM.
AND I THINK IT IS TIME THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE CONSIDER A HOLISTIC
APPROACH TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO
WITH HYDROGEN. WE ARE WORKING ON
THE COST ISSUE TIED INTO
CALIFORNIA'S HYDROGEN HUB. WE
HAVE OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT
HONDA, ONE OF THE LARGEST AUTO
MANUFACTURERS IN THE GLOBE, IS
BRINGING ITS FUEL CELL VEHICLE
BACK TO MARKET IN CALIFORNIA,
SENATOR NEWMAN HAD A BILL MAKING
THE SITING OF STATIONS A LOT
EASIER, YOU KNOW, THE SHELL
RETURNED MONIES. I GOT TO TELL
YOU, WE ARE VERY ANXIOUS FOR THE
CEC TO PUT THOSE MONIES BACK ON
THE STREET BECAUSE THERE ARE A
LOT OF DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD BE
VERY ANXIOUS TO UTILIZE THAT
MONEY AND BUILD SOME STATIONS.
SO MY $0.02, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE. I
DON'T KNOW IF THE OPPOSITION
WANTS TO MENTION ANYTHING THAT
WAS JUST, TESTIFIED RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOVE FEST UP
HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW
EVERYTHING. THERESA SAID. I
DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE. I
SUPPORT, AGAIN, WE WE'RE IN A
PARTNERSHIP AND I THINK HAVE AN
ALIGNED, END GOALS HERE. FRAMING
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AS THE, THE,
THE BARRIER TO THE FULL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, OF THIS
INDUSTRY IS, IS JUST A FALSE
PREMISE. THERE ARE 483 CITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE, A
MULTITUDE OF THEM ARE NEVER
GOING TO SEE THIS APPLICATION.
AND GOING THROUGH THE COSTLY,
PROCESS OF, ADOPTING AN
ORDINANCE, REVIEWING THE
ANALYSIS, GOING THROUGH THE
PERMITTING, DEVELOPING A
PERMITTING CHECKLIST AND SO
FORTH. IT'S NOT FREE. IT'S NOT
CHEAP. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE
OTHER STATE EDICTS THAT COME OUT
OF SACRAMENTO, TO THE VARIOUS
CITIES AND COUNTIES AND SPECIAL
DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE,
WITHOUT COSTS, ASSOCIATED CITIES
ARE DOING MUCH LIKE THE STATE
DOING MORE WITH LESS. AND WITH
REGARD TO HOUSING, PUBLIC
SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION, IT'S
JUST ONE MORE, EDICT THAT IS NOT
NECESSARY FOR A LOT OF CITIES,
AND PERMITTING AUTHORITIES, I
WOULD SAY THAT, LET'S DO THIS IN
A TARGETED, INCREMENTAL APPROACH
INSTEAD OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL,
REGARDLESS OF THE CITY'S
ABILITY. THEIR SIZE, THEIR
STAFFING, SO DO IT IN A MORE
THOUGHTFUL WAY, WE DON'T
DISAGREE WITH THE END RESULT. WE
WANT TO SEE THE GROWTH OF
HYDROGEN. WE JUST DON'T THINK
THIS BILL, IF ENACTED AND
SIGNED, WILL RESULT IN A
DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY LINE. THANK
YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING
MY QUESTIONS. I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. I'M
GLAD. IT'S A LOVE FEST. AND
HOPEFULLY THIS MEANS MORE, MORE
CONVERSATIONS CAN HAPPEN, BUT I
DO LIKE THAT IT DOESN'T. IT'S
FOR CITIES THAT ARE OVER 250,000
IN POPULATION. I DON'T HAVE ANY
CITIES WITHIN MY ASSEMBLY
DISTRICT THAT ARE OVER 250,000.
LARGEST CITY IN MY DISTRICT IS
DOWNEY WITH 114,000 RESIDENTS.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE
CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN BOTH
SIDES. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING
TO FIX THIS BILL, HOPEFULLY IT
GETS EVEN MORE REFINED AND
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT. ON
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THAT WANT TO, QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS SEEING NONE. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES, MR.
CHAIR, THANK YOU. WE HEARD THAT
THE FUTURE IS HYDROGEN, BUT WE
HAVE TO BE READY. AND THIS IS
WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. AND, AND AS
A FORMER MEMBER OF CONTRACT
CITIES AND WORKING WITH
INDEPENDENT CITIES AND OUR CITY
MANAGERS, THEY WOULD ALL WORK
TOGETHER. AND I WOULD IMAGINE
THAT ONE CITY THAT PUTS TOGETHER
THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE GOING TO
SHARE THAT ORDINANCE WITH
ANOTHER CITY AND ANOTHER CITY.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SO
PUNITIVE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.
IT'S GOING TO BE WORKING
TOGETHER. AND I SEE THIS BECAUSE
WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE SAME
THING. AND THIS IS WHY I THINK
THIS IS THE PART THAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING TO
CALIFORNIA TO MOVE FORWARD. AND
THIS IS WHY I ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SENATOR, I'LL JUST, MAKE A
COMMENT AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT
I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HYDROGEN,
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO
TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH AS YOU
SAID, I BELIEVE THAT, WITHOUT
HYDROGEN, THE STATE WON'T BE
ABLE TO MEET THE 2045 GOALS VARY
, AGGRESSIVE GOALS, THAT WHICH
IS NOT THERE YET. ONE OF MY
CONCERNS IS THAT BY PUTTING
THESE STATIONS JUST ALONG A FIVE
MILE RADIUS FROM HIGHWAYS, IT
WILL LEAVE, COMMUNITIES BEHIND,
JUST LIKE THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE,
INFRASTRUCTURE HAS LEFT A LOT OF
COMMUNITIES BEHIND, WHETHER IT
BE IN 1.2 BILLION OR 1.5
BILLION, IT'S STILL A SIZABLE
AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND I BELIEVE THAT CALIFORNIA IS
WAY AHEAD OF OTHER STATES AS FAR
AS BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY
FRIENDLY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THAT, WITH THAT, I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THE WORK
OF YOUR STAFF ON THIS BILL FOR
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS, AND YOU ACCEPT THOSE
AMENDMENTS, RIGHT. WITH THOSE, I
WILL BE VOTING. AYE, DUE TO
TIMING, THESE AMENDMENTS WILL BE
TAKEN IN TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE AS WE KNOW, I NEED A
MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE
PROCEED. SECOND, WE HAVE A
MOTION AND TWO SECONDS. AND
MADAM CHAIR, SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO TRANSPORTATION.
AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN
TRANSPORTATION CARILLO I CARILLO
I WALDRON. WALDRON I IS SALLY
HANEY. HANEY. I CORA. PACHECO.
CHICO. I RAMOS. RAMOS. I WARD.
WILSON WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR THE MINUTES. THANK
YOU. AND I SEE SENATOR MENGIBAR,
HERE IN THE ROOM. AND THAT IS
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN, SB 1193.
THANK YOU. MR. MR. CHAIR,
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE AMENDS,
THIS BILL, SOME OF YOU HAVE
HEARD IT FROM TRANSPORTATION,
HAS GONE THROUGH A LONG AND
WINDY PATH, BUT VERY EXCITED
THAT IT'S BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE
ON THAT PATH, AND I'M JUST HERE
TO ENSURE THAT YOU ALL HELP ME
GET TO THAT FINISH LINE TO FACE
TO BAN, NOT PHASE TO BAN, LEADED
AVIATION FUEL. ONE OF THE
REMAINING, MATERIALS THAT STILL
HAS LEAD IN IT THAT IS IMPACTING
YOUR COMMUNITIES. MY
COMMUNITIES. UNFORTUNATELY
CALIFORNIA HAS A LOT OF AIRPORTS
IN THE ONE THROUGH TEN, LIST OF
MOST POLLUTING AIRPORTS IN THE
UNITED STATES WITH MY, MY, WITH
ONE OF MY AIRPORTS BEING THE
NUMBER TWO WORST ONE IN
CALIFORNIA AND THE SEVENTH ONE
WORST IN THE UNITED STATES. NOW,
THROUGH ALL THE POLICY
COMMITTEES, WHAT THIS BILL WILL
OFFICIALLY DO IS THAT BY 2031
JANUARY 1ST, AFTER THE
EXPIRATION OF THE MOST RECENT
FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT, AFTER
THAT EXPIRES, WE WILL BAN THE
SALE OF AVIATION FUEL HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WE WILL FOLLOW SUIT
OF WHAT SANTA CLARA COUNTY DID
ALREADY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,
AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING,
PROTECTION FOR KIDS WHO ARE
AROUND AIRPORTS THAT USE THIS
FUEL, THAT THESE ARE THE SMALLER
PISTON ENGINE, AIRCRAFTS. THESE
ARE NOT COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS.
THESE ARE NOT COMMERCIAL
AIRPLANES. THAT WILL BE IMPACTED
BY THIS, AS THEY USE A DIFFERENT
KIND OF KIND OF FUEL. THIS BILL
CAME OUT OF, A CRY OUT OF MY
DISTRICT TO ENSURE THAT WE
ADDRESS THE AIR POLLUTION THAT
WE'RE SEEING IN THAT AREA, WHICH
I'M PRETTY SURE OTHER MEMBERS
SEE IN THEIR DISTRICT TO ENSURE
THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OUR
COMMUNITY, WITH THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS, WE'RE PROVIDING AN
ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT IT
DOESN'T CONTRADICT WITH FAA
GRANTS TO AIRPORTS. SO THANK YOU
FOR THE COMMITTEE FOR HELPING US
PUT THAT KIND OF, REASSURANCE
BACK IN THE BILL TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT WE'RE NOT STRIPPING
AWAY FUNDING FROM THE AIRPORTS
AND ENSURE THAT WE MAKE THEM AS
SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE, AND
ENSURE THAT ONCE BY SEVEN YEARS
FROM NOW, WE WILL HAVE UNLEADED
FUEL AVAILABLE FOR THEM AND THEY
WON'T FEEL A THING IN THE
TRANSITION. IT'S A DROP IN
REPLACEMENT. WHILE SOME OF THE
GAS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON
THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, PILOTS
WILL SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY
BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE, AND
THIS IS JUST THE RIGHT THING TO
DO. WE'RE GIVING ENOUGH TIME FOR
THE INDUSTRY TO TRANSITION OVER,
SINCE I STARTED THIS BILL WITH A
START LINE OF 2026, WE'VE
AMENDED, ENOUGH YEARS TO ADD FOR
IT TO BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION. SO
I WILL STOP THERE. MR. CHAIR,
AND THEN TURN OVER TO MY
WITNESSES FOR TESTIMONY. GOOD
MORNING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. SENATOR
MENGIBAR, ON BEHALF OF ALL OF
MINORITY COMMUNITIES, THANK YOU
FOR INTRODUCING THIS LONG
OVERDUE BILL ON UNLEADED AVGAS.
MY NAME IS MARIA REYES AND I
LIVE IN CASTLE COMMUNITY. FOR
OVER 52 YEARS IN AN AREA CALLED
SALSIPUEDES. GET OUT IF YOU CAN.
MY HOME IS LESS THAN ONE MILE
FROM REID AIRPORT AND MY
NEIGHBORHOOD IS DENSELY
OVERCROWDED. OUR LOCAL
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHARES A
SCHOOLYARD FENCE WITH REID
AIRPORT, AND WE HAVE
APPROXIMATELY 21 SCHOOLS AND
DAYCARE CENTERS WITHIN THIS 1.5
MILE RADIUS. MOST OF MY
NEIGHBORS NO HABLA INGLÉS WORK
IN CONSTRUCTION OR IN THE FAST
FOOD INDUSTRY. SURVIVAL IS A
DAILY STRUGGLE. THIS STRUGGLE
INCLUDES RAISING OUR CHILDREN
AND WORKING FOR A BETTER FUTURE.
A FUTURE FREE OF RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION, RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION THRIVES IN
COMMUNITIES LIKE CASSEL,
PACOIMA, AND THE LONG BEACH
AREAS. A TROUBLING ISSUE TO OUR
HEALTH IS THE AVGAS EMISSIONS.
THESE ARE DANGEROUS TO OUR
HEALTH AND YET NO ONE HAS TAKEN
THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
NEUROLOGICAL AND PHYSICAL
IMPAIRMENT DONE TO OUR FAMILIES
BY THIS LEADED FUEL. IN 2021,
CASSEL COMMUNITY RALLIED AND WE
WANT ACTION BY THE SANTA CLARA
COUNTY. THE COUNTY STOPPED
SELLING LEADED FUEL. HOWEVER,
THIS IS NOT ENOUGH. WE ARE
ASKING FOR SOCIAL AND RACIAL
JUSTICE TO ELIMINATE THIS HEALTH
ISSUE. AS PARENTS, WE ALL WANT
TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. IF YOUR
CHILDREN LIVED IN MY COMMUNITY,
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WAIT
TILL 2031? OUR FAMILIES ARE NOT
STATISTICS. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS
WHO DESERVE TO BE TREATED WITH
DIGNITY, RESPECT AND INCLUSION.
SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OUR
COMMUNITIES, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO
PLEASE WORK WITH US TO PASS SB
1193 AND TO END THIS PUBLIC
HEALTH INJUSTICE. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT, MY NAME IS JERRY YAN, AND
I'M A DEPUTY COUNTY COUNSEL WITH
THE COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA, WHICH
IS THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF
REID-HILLVIEW AIRPORT, ONE OF
THE BUSIEST GENERAL AVIATION
AIRPORTS IN THE IN THE STATE AND
IN SAN JOSE AND SAN MARTIN
AIRPORT, A SMALL RURAL AIRPORT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS THE
COUNTY STRONG SUPPORT FOR SB
1193, AND TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME
OF OUR EXPERIENCES AND WORKING
TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES FROM
LEAD EXPOSURE FROM GENERAL
AVIATION, WE KNOW THAT LEAD,
LEAD EXPOSURE FROM GENERAL
AVIATION IS A CRITICAL DANGER TO
OUR CHILDREN. THE COUNTY
COMPLETED A STUDY IN 2021 THAT
FOUND STRONG CORRELATIONS
BETWEEN GENERAL AVIATION
ACTIVITY AT REID-HILLVIEW
AIRPORT AND ELEVATED BLOOD LEAD
LEVELS IN THE CHILDREN AND THE
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE
THE FINDINGS OF THIS STUDY ARE
CONSISTENT WITH FINDINGS OF
OTHER STUDIES FROM ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND THE US. EPA'S 2023
FINDING THAT LEAD EMISSIONS FROM
GENERAL AVIATION ENDANGER PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY. WE ALSO KNOW
THAT THE GENERAL AVIATION
AIRPORTS CAN OPERATE SAFELY
WITHOUT THE SALE OF LEADED AVGAS
IN 2022, THE COUNTY CEASED THE
SALE OF LEADED AVGAS AT AT ITS
AIRPORTS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN
NEGLIGIBLE IMPACTS ON AIRPORT
OPERATIONS AND NO SAFETY
INCIDENTS RELATED TO THE ABSENCE
OF LEADED AVGAS AT OUR AIRPORTS.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE
ALTERNATIVES ARE HERE TODAY. IN
2023 ALONE, THE COUNTY SOLD OVER
272,000 GALLONS OF UNLEADED
AVGAS AT OUR AIRPORTS, AND WE'RE
CURRENTLY FINALIZING A CONTRACT
WITH OR TO SECURE A SUPPLY OF A
100 OCTANE UNLEADED AVIATION
GASOLINE THAT THE FAA HAS
APPROVED FOR USE BY VIRTUALLY
THE ENTIRE PISTON ENGINE FLEET,
THE TIME TO COMMUNITIES HAVE
SUFFERED FOR DECADES FROM LEAD
LEADED AVGAS EXPOSURE AND THE
TIME TO END IT IS NOW THE. WITH
THAT I RESPECTFULLY,
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE FOR SB 1193. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT
WANTS TO ADD ON SUPPORT, PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ON THE BILL. GOOD
MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS.
KAREN LANG, ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF LOS ANGELES IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING, LETICIA REYES WITH
CRUZ STRATEGIES ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF SAN JOSE IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR MEMBER
ROSS BUCKLEY, ON BEHALF OF SOUTH
COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT, IN SUPPORT. HELLO, I'M
FATIMA ZUBIATE WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
ALSO, SAYING SUPPORT FOR CLEAN
AIR FOR KIDS NORTH EQUITY AND
JUSTICE. CALIFORNIA NURSES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND JUSTICE
AND CA ECO SUSTAINABILITY PEEPS,
FACTS, GRANDPARENTS AND ACTION
SONOMA SAFE SCHOOLS CENTER FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ACTIVIST
SAN DIEGO SCHOOL MOMS ADVOCATING
SUSTAINABILITY AND GET THE LEAD
OUT, LONG BEACH. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING WHITNEY FRANCIS ON
BEHALF OF THE WESTERN CENTER ON
LAW AND POVERTY AND THE
CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF UNITED
LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS, PROUD
CO-SPONSORS OF SB 1193, IN
STRONG SUPPORT. SOPHIA WITH THE
COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR, ALSO
PROUD CO-SPONSOR OF THIS BILL
AND STRONG SUPPORT. ALLEN BAY
AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT PETER ORTIZ,
SAN JOSE COUNCIL MEMBER
REPRESENTING THE COASTAL
COMMUNITY. NEIGHBORHOOD
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
THE USE OF LEADED FUEL BY THE
REID-HILLVIEW AIRPORT IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HI, LAUREN
VASHI ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS COUNCIL AND
THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
AIRPORTS, I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR. HER STAFF AND THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECENT
AMENDMENT COMMENTS. AND WITH
THAT, WE WILL MOVE OURSELVES
FROM AN OPPOSED TO A NEUTRAL
POSITION. YES JARED YOSHIKI ON
BEHALF OF THE AIRCRAFT OWNERS
AND PILOTS ASSOCIATION AND ALSO
REPRESENTING THE VERTICAL
AVIATION INTERNATIONAL, THE
NATIONAL BUSINESS AVIATION
ASSOCIATION, THE NATIONAL AIR
TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION, THE
EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT
ASSOCIATION. WE ALSO WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR AND HER STAFF
FOR REMOVING THE AMENDMENTS, OR
FOR TAKING SOME AMENDMENTS THAT
ALLOWED US TO MOVE TO NEUTRAL AS
WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND MY
NAME IS GILBERT REYES, AND I'M
ALSO SUPPORTING THIS, SB 93.
OKAY. 1193 I'M SORRY. FROM FROM
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, FROM
COASTAL COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS RAQUEL WELCH. I'M A
NATIVE SAN JOSE, THÀNH, AND MY
HOME IS IN COASTAL NEIGHBORHOOD
ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM
REID-HILLVIEW AIRPORT. AND
UNFORTUNATELY, MY FAMILY AND
MYSELF, MY CHILDREN,
GRANDCHILDREN, WE ALL HAVE LEAD
IN OUR BLOOD. SO I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU.
COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO DO US
ALL A FAVOR AND NOT READ FROM MY
SOMEWHAT LENGTHIER, PREPARED
REMARKS AND QUICKLY ADDRESS A
COUPLE OF CONCERNS. MY NAME IS
SIDNEY SIDDHARTHNAGAR. ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA RURAL COUNTIES,
OUR CRC, WE'VE BEEN OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL FOR TWO REASONS. ONE,
OUT OF CONCERN THAT OUR COUNTIES
AND OUR COUNTY AIRPORTS, THE
AUTHORITIES THAT WE WORK WITH,
ARE ABLE TO IN THE WAY THAT
COUNTY, SANTA CLARA HAS BEEN
ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY, MAKE A
SWITCH TO THEIR 94 UNLEADED FUEL
FORMULATION THAT THEY'RE
CURRENTLY USING AND ATTEMPTS TO
GET TO 100 OCTANE STANDARD
UNLEADED STANDARD, THAT OUR
RURAL COUNTIES, WHICH EXIST IN A
LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PART
OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND AREN'T
ALWAYS AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE
AND AREN'T ALWAYS ABLE TO
NECESSARILY GET THE SAME
CONTRACTS IN THE SAME WAY, ARE
ABLE TO DO THAT. AND TO THAT
END, I WANT TO GREATLY THANK THE
SENATOR AND HER STAFF FOR
CONTINUALLY WORKING WITH THE
ENTIRETY OF THE OPPOSITION, AS
YOU'VE HEARD, SOME HAVE MOVED TO
NEUTRAL. THEY'VE BEEN VERY
WILLING TO HEAR US OUT. AND,
ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
WE REMAIN IN OPPOSITION AT THIS
TIME, FURTHER EVALUATING THE
AMENDMENTS PROPOSED LARGELY ON
THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE
AMENDMENTS AS PROPOSED BY THE
COMMITTEE IS, PROPOSED TO BE
ACCEPTED BY THE AUTHOR, DO OR
DON'T ALLOW OUR AIRPORTS IN THE
RARE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THERE IS
A GAP BETWEEN WHEN THEIR GRANT
ASSURANCE EXPIRES, LET'S SAY IN
YEAR 2030 OR RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
AND THE POTENTIAL WE ALL CROSS
OUR FINGERS THAT THIS ISN'T THE
CASE. NONEXISTENCE OF A NON 100
OCTANE UNLEADED FUEL. NOW, WE
KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THE FUELS
MANUFACTURERS ARE MOVING HARD TO
MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THEY HAVE
GREAT ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO DO
SO, AS MENTIONED, THE FUEL IS
NOT JUST AS NOT SOMETHING THAT
AN UNLEADED VERSION OF THE FUEL
IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT IS
BENEFICIAL TO COMMUNITIES AROUND
THE AIRPORTS, BUT THEY ARE IT IS
A BETTER VERSION OF THE FUEL FOR
THE AIRPORT WORKERS THEMSELVES
AND THE PILOTS THAT USE THE
FUEL. SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME
PAGE. THAT EXISTENCE AND USE OF
AN UNLEADED FUEL IS, A SWITCH.
WE ALL WANT TO MAKE, OR THE A
SWITCH TO THE USE OF THAT FUEL
IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D ALL WANT
TO DO. THE QUESTION HAS ALWAYS
BEEN WHETHER THAT FUEL EXISTS AT
THIS TIME, AND WHETHER IT'S
COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE AND
VIABLE FOR RURAL AIRPORTS TO
ACCESS THAT FUEL. IN ADDITION TO
EVALUATING THAT, I DO WANT TO
MENTION ONE, ANALOGY THAT HAS
BEEN DESCRIBED IN THIS BILL IS
FOR WHY WE IN CALIFORNIA MIGHT
MAKE THE MOVE IN STATE STATUTE
TO BAN UNLEADED FUEL, AND THAT
ANALOGY HAS BEEN MADE TO, THE
SWITCH. SORRY, THE BAN IN
UNLEADED AUTOMOBILE FUEL IN THE
EARLY 90S. CALIFORNIA IN 1992,
ITS AIR RESOURCES BOARD IN 1992,
UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
MOVED TO BAN UNLEADED GASOLINE.
AND THAT WAS MORE THAN 20 YEARS
AFTER THE AUTOMOBILE
MANUFACTURERS OF AMERICA STARTED
TO FIT THEIR ENGINES TO ACCEPT
AN UNLEADED VERSION OF THAT FUEL
FORMULATION, UNLEADED, AND MORE
THAN TEN YEARS AFTER, UNLEADED
FUEL WAS COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE,
GAS STATIONS. WHAT WE'RE SEEKING
TO ACHIEVE IS AN ORDERLY PROCESS
IN WHICH THE FUEL IS AVAILABLE,
COMMERCIALLY VIABLE OR
COMMERCIALLY THERE FOR OUR OUR
AIRPORTS TO MAKE CONTRACT. SO
THAT WE CAN MAKE THE SWITCH MUCH
IN THE SAME WAY CALIFORNIA DID
WITH AUTOMOBILE, UNLEADED FUEL.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO
GO ON THE RECORD IN OPPOSITION?
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ON THE BILL, ZACH,
LARRY, WITH THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION, I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR AND HER STAFF
FOR THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD.
WE REMAIN OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED. WE'VE SUBMITTED
AMENDMENTS TO THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE. I THINK THAT WOULD
ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IF THERE ARE
FUTURE DATE CHANGES AND LOOK
FORWARD TO THE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS, SHOULD IT GET OUT
OF COMMITTEE HERE TODAY. THANKS
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. JACKIE, ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA FUEL
ALLIANCE, ALSO OPPOSE LAST
AMENDED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
AND WITH THAT TAKE YOU BACK TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE BILL.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WALDEN. SO I WAS
JUST WONDERING AS I READ THIS,
WE ALL AGREE ON, YOU KNOW,
GETTING THE BETTER FUELS
AVAILABLE, BUT I REPRESENT A
VERY HIGHLY RURAL AREA. AND
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
IN THE FUTURE, EMERGENCY
RESPONSE, AND SOME OF THE
TRANSPORTATION USES OF THESE
TYPE OF, AIRPLANES. SO WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN? WOULD THEY BE
GROUNDED IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
FUEL AVAILABLE? OR, YOU KNOW,
WHAT DO WE SEE AS THE POTENTIAL
ISSUE AT THAT POINT?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MY PREVIOUS
VERSION OF THIS BILL HAD AN OPT
OUT APPROACH, THAT SHOULD WE
SHOULD WE HAVE NOT HAD, UNLEADED
FUEL COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE
COUNTIES WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
OPT OUT AND I HAD TO TAKE AN
AMENDMENT IN A PREVIOUS ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE TO REMOVE THAT
PROVISION. SO I THOUGHT ABOUT,
HEY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS
BILL IS SUCCESSFUL. AND IF WE
DON'T MEET THAT, I WANT COUNTIES
TO BE ABLE TO OPT OUT. THAT WAS
TAKEN OUT. I AM MORE THAN
WILLING TO FIND A DIFFERENT KIND
OF OPT OUT, BUT I HAD TO TAKE
THAT AMENDMENT TO GET IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE, SO WILLING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION ON IT IN A WAY THAT
ADHERES TO WHAT PREVIOUS
COMMITTEES HAVE WANTED, AND
FINDING A MIDDLE GROUND TO THAT,
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT AIRPORTS TO
NOT BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS
TRANSITION. THE THING THAT I
KEEP SAYING EVERYWHERE IS THAT
I'M JUST NOT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER
KIND OF, 20, 35, WE'RE GOING TO
REMOVE EMISSIONS FROM X, Y, AND
Z LIKE I WANT AN ACTUAL PLAN TO
ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO. I HAVE BEEN
TOLD I HAVE BEEN, OR SAID THAT,
HEY, I'M GOING TO BE HERE IN THE
LEGISLATURE BEFORE THIS BILL IS
IMPLEMENTED, THAT I HAVE THE
ABILITY TO COME BACK AND CHANGE
IT INTO A DIFFERENT WAYS. IF FOR
SOME REASON THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FAA SAYS, HEY, IT'S
COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE IN 2028,
THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND
SAY, HEY, I WANT TO HAVE MY BILL
BE IMPLEMENTED SOONER. IF IT'S
2029 AND WE REALLY HAVE NO MEANS
OF UNLEADED FUEL, I WOULD HAVE
TO COME BACK AND THEN PUSH IT
OUT OR PUT IN AN OPT OUT VERSION
. AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVE
RURAL COUNTIES NOT HAVE THE
ABILITY TO BRING IN THE
NECESSARY RESOURCES, RIGHT? WHEN
IT COMES TO FUEL, I MEAN, FOOD
AND SO FORTH. SO I AM COMMITTING
TO COME BACK. IF WE GET CLOSER
TO ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO 2031
AND THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE.
AGAIN, I HAD AN OPT OUT APPROACH
BEFORE HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT. SO I
AM VERY MINDFUL OF THAT. SO
WOULD AN OPT OUT? MEASURE BE
HELPFUL TO THE RURAL COUNTIES?
YES. YOU KNOW, OUR PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS, CREATE WHAT'S
EFFECTIVELY A STRUCTURAL OPT OUT
WHERE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A
DISCRETIONARY ACTION TAKEN BY
THE LOCAL ELECTED BODY, THE
LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY, THE
MECHANISM THAT THE SENATOR
DESCRIBED THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN
HER BILL, IT FUNCTIONED AS, AS A
AN EFFECTIVE OPT OUT IN SOME
WAYS, WE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ASSOCIATIONS WEREN'T DIRECTLY
CONSULTED ON IT. AND SO THERE
WERE SOME CONCERNS WHEN WE
ENGAGED WITH REGARD TO THAT
LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW THAT VOTE
WOULD TAKE PLACE AND SO FORTH,
WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE THE
PREVIOUS ASSEMBLY POLICY
COMMITTEE CHOSE TO GO THE
DIFFERENT ROUTE, BY FURTHER
AMENDING THE BILL AND THEN
ASKING THE SENATOR TO ADDRESS
THE PROBLEM OF FEDERAL
PREEMPTION VIS A VIS GRANDE
ASSURANCES, THERE, I BELIEVE,
ARE A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS WE
COULD CREATE A PRETTY, SIMPLE
AND DIRECT OPT OUT PROVISION
THAT WOULD BE EVEN SIMPLER THAN
WHAT THE SENATOR HAD TO CONSIDER
IN HER HOUSE, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO
DISCUSS. I JUST WANT MAKE SURE,
MR. CHAIR, THAT NONE OF THAT
IT'S CONSIDERED A JAILBREAK,
SINCE I HAD TO TAKE THOSE
AMENDMENTS IN PREVIOUS VICE
CHAIR. WALDEN, DO YOU HAVE A
FOLLOW UP QUESTION? NO, I JUST
KNOW HOW THAT IS. WHEN COMMITTEE
OKAY TO DO OR DIE. SO THANK YOU,
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CALDERON. THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND I'M SORRY I
MISSED MUCH OF THE PRESENTATION
RUNNING AROUND TODAY, BUT I'M
VERY GRATEFUL, SENATOR, FOR YOU,
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
ADVOCACY OVER THE YEARS IN SAN
JOSE AND SANTA CLARA COUNTY. WE
HAVE OUR SAN JOSE COUNCIL MEMBER
HERE WHO'S BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE
FOR THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF
THE IMPACT OF OUR REID-HILLVIEW
AIRPORT AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
OF OUR CITY, AND, THERE WAS A
VERY EXTENSIVE STUDY THAT WAS
DONE. THAT WAS RELEASED IN 2021,
IN OUR COUNTY THAT SHOWED THE
DRAMATIC IMPACTS OF TO, TO
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IN
TERMS OF BLOOD LEAD LEVELS. WHEN
YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE LEADED,
LEADED FUEL. AND SO I'M GRATEFUL
THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN
OUR COUNTY WHERE THEY, PROHIBIT
THE SALE OF LEADED GAS AT OUR
TWO COUNTY AIRPORTS,
REID-HILLVIEW AND SAN MARTIN,
IT'S CERTAINLY DEMONSTRATES THAT
IT CAN BE DONE. AND I THINK WITH
THIS LEGISLATION YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT ALMOST SEVEN YEARS BEFORE
IT WOULD BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT, YOU
KNOW, I THINK WHETHER IT'S IN AN
URBAN OR A RURAL COMMUNITY, I
THINK COMMUNITIES SHOULD BE,
SAFE FROM LEAD ENTERING INTO
THEIR ENVIRONMENT, WHETHER IT'S
THE WATER STREAM, THE DIRT, WHAT
HAVE YOU, THE SOIL, BECAUSE THAT
HAS GENERATIONAL IMPACT ON OUR
COMMUNITIES AND SO, AGAIN, JUST
GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THE
LEADERSHIP ON THIS PARTICULAR
ISSUE, AND ALLOWED TO BE ADDED
AS A COAUTHOR. THANK YOU. SO AND
THERE HASN'T BEEN IS THERE A
MOTION I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. IS THERE SOMETHING
YOU WANT TO ADD? I THINK I SEE
YOU COMING TO WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING WITH THE OPT OUT.
REMOVE YOUR OPPOSITION. YEAH.
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE SUBMITTED
WOULD ESSENTIALLY ALIGN WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOING
FORWARD. IF THERE WERE FUTURE
DATE CHANGES AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL, I THINK GETS TO THE SAME
END. BUT IT WOULD JUST NOT NEED
TO COME BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE.
IT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
ANY FUTURE FEDERAL CHANGES TO
THAT 2030 DATE. IF THEY DO PUSH
IT OUT TO SAY, 2030. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS
COMMENTS? SO WOULD YOU BE
WILLING TO CONTINUE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS? LOOKS LIKE YOU'LL
BE OKAY TO THE OPT OUT IF THAT
WERE TO BE AN OPTION, I'D LIKE
TO GO BACK TO, THE HUNDRED
DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN
THIS BILL TO ADHERE TO A LOT OF
THE OPPOSITION, WHICH I THINK
ARE VERY VALID, VERY VALID, 100,
I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE THAT
DECISION. I WOULD HAVE TO, REACH
OUT TO THE PREVIOUS ASSEMBLY
CHAIR ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT I
TOOK AND SO FORTH. SO I DON'T I
CAN'T COMMIT TO ANYTHING ON THAT
. NOW, I DO COMMIT, YOU KNOW,
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WHISPER.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
RURAL COUNTIES. YOU'VE HEARD
THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING DAY IN
AND DAY OUT TO FIND A PLACE THAT
IS COMMON GROUND. BUT I ALSO
DON'T WANT TO WEAKEN THE BILL
WHERE SOME PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
ARE JUST AN INDEFINITE PUSHBACK.
I DON'T WANT AN INDEFINITE
PUSHBACK. THAT'S WHY MY PREVIOUS
VERSION WAS A YEARLY OPT OUT,
AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT
THERE ARE TWO COMPANIES, WELL,
ONE COMPANY THAT ALREADY SAID
THEY HAVE 100 UNLEADED FUEL
OCTANE AVAILABLE. AND IN SEVEN
YEARS, WE CAN'T IMAGINE THAT
THERE WON'T BE MORE COMPANIES
COMING FORWARD. RIGHT. THIS IS
WHY WE'VE EXPANDED THE YEARS,
BECAUSE WE KNOW COMPANIES ARE
GOING TO STEP UP AND SAY, HEY,
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE
BY 2031. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
AND I'LL USE THIS AS MY CLOSE AS
WELL. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
PUT A GOAL FOR 2030. IT'S NOT
SET IN STONE. IT'S JUST A GOAL,
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT, HEY,
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU SET A
GOAL, BUT CALIFORNIA WANTS IT BY
2031. AND I THINK I AM 100%
CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL HAVE
THAT. BUT I'VE MADE THAT
COMMITMENT. YOU WILL BE HERE
MOST OF YOU WILL BE HERE WHEN
I'M HERE, IS THAT I CAN COME
BACK BY 2027, 2028 AND
REEVALUATE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
OKAY. AND THAT WAS YOUR CLOSING
STATEMENT. OKAY I BELIEVE WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, WITH
THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK AND THE WORK OF YOUR
STAFF ON THIS BILL AND THIS
ISSUE, WE WILL BE ADOPTING THE
AMENDMENTS TODAY THAT WE
UNDERSTAND WILL REMOVE SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION. I ENCOURAGE YOU
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS. IF THAT'S A
POSSIBILITY, THAT CONTINUE TO
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WITH THE
BILL AND REQUEST THAT YOU
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE, MOVING FORWARD, THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED, TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MOTION. DO PASS IS AMENDED.
APPROPRIATION CARILLO Ã CARILLO
I. WALDRON WALDRON. AYE. SALLY
HANEY. HANEY I PACHECO. CHICO I.
RAMOS. RAMOS I WARD. WILSON. OH,
I'M SORRY. CORRE, CORRE I. OKAY.
THE VOTE IS FIVE TO. THE BILL IS
SET WITH FIVE ZERO. WILL LEAVE
THE ROLL OPEN FOR ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NOT SEEING ANY OTHER
AUTHORS IN THE ROOM? WE ARE. WE
STILL HAVE, ONE, TWO, THREE,
FOUR ITEMS. THREE ITEMS ON THE
AGENDA, WE CAN PLEASE HAVE,
AUTHORS COME IN. WE CAN DO THE
ADD ONS. YES. MADAM SECRETARY.
WE ARE GOING TO START WITH ONE
ITEM ON CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY.
SENATOR PADILLA WILL GIVE US A
MINUTE. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE,
CONSENT ITEM AND OTHER ADD ONS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
CONSENT CALENDAR SB 1514 Dð LAST
RECOMMENDED CONSENT. WE DO NEED
A MOTION, THOUGH, FIRST AND
SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CARILLO Ã. CARILLO. AYE.
WALDRON WALDRON. AYE. EASILY.
HANEY HANEY. AYE. CORRE. CORRE.
AYE PACHECO. CHICO. AYE. RAMOS
RAMOS. AYE. WARD WILSON. OKAY.
THE VOTE IS SIX ZERO TO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM. THAT BILL
IS UP. I WILL LEAVE THE ROLL
OPEN FOR OTHERS TO ADD ON. WE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE
AGENDA AS SENATOR PADILLA IS
HERE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE
AGENDA, SB 1072, SENATOR WONG,
ARE YOU READY?
YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,
AND MEMBERS, I AM PLEASED TO
PRESENT SB 1072, THE REFUND
REMEDY FOR PROP, 218. SB 1072
WOULD CLARIFY EXISTING LAW THAT
IF A COURT IF A COURT DETERMINES
THAT A FEE OR CHARGE FOR
PROPERTY RELATED SERVICE,
INCLUDING WATER, SEWER AND
REFUSE COLLECTION VIOLATES PROP
208, THE REMEDY FOR THIS
VIOLATION WOULD BE A CREDIT
TOWARDS THE AMOUNT OF THE FEE OR
CHARGE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE
VIOLATION. TODAY, RETAIL WATER
AND WASTEWATER AGENCIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE ARE FACING
LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THEIR
SERVICE FEE STRUCTURES. THREE OF
THESE LEGAL CHALLENGES AFFECT MY
DISTRICT, BUT THE THREAT EXISTS
UP AND DOWN THE STATE. THESE
CHALLENGES ARE CURRENTLY UNDER
APPELLATE REVIEW IN MANY CASES
AND IN ONE IN PARTICULAR, AND
THE CLARIFICATION FOR THE
REMEDIES IN THESE CASES IS
NEEDED IN THE LAW IN THE EVENT
THAT IT IS RESOLVED IN SUCH A
FASHION AND TO ADDRESS AND
PROTECT THE SOLVENCY OF WATER
AGENCIES AND THE WATER RATES FOR
ORDINARY PAYERS, HIGH WATER
USERS OFTEN ARE THE PLAINTIFFS
IN THESE LAWSUITS AND ALLEGED
THAT THEY WERE OVERCHARGED BY
WATER AGENCIES THAT LOWER WATER
USERS SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE, AND
THAT THE HIGH WATER USERS SHOULD
GET A REFUND. LET'S BE CLEAR WE
ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BILLING
ERRORS BECAUSE THOSE ARE
EXPLICITLY EXCLUDED FROM THE
BILL. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
FEES OR CHARGES WHERE REFUNDS
ARE PROVIDED FOR IN STATUTE, BUT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS A
FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT IN THE
METHODOLOGY JUSTIFYING THE
SERVICE CHARGE. AND CHALLENGERS
ARE SEEKING A REFUND FOR THIS
OVERCHARGE. PUBLIC WATER
DISTRICTS OFTEN DO NOT HAVE NO
OTHER REVENUE SOURCE OTHER THAN
THE RATES STRUCTURES THAT THEY
CHARGE. PUBLIC AGENCIES HIRE
ECONOMISTS AND ENGINEERS TO
PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC OF
PROPOSED RATES. IN ORDER TO
ABIDE BY THE PROVISIONS OF PROP
208, A PUBLIC AGENCY SETS ITS
CHARGES TO MERELY RECOVER COSTS
ANNUALLY AND RECEIVES NO PROFIT,
SO ANY REFUNDS TO PAST HIGH
WATER USERS WOULD NEED TO BE
FUNDED BY RAISING RATES ON ALL
FUTURE RATEPAYERS. SB 1072 WOULD
CLARIFY THAT IF A COURT
DETERMINES AN EXCESS FEE HAS
BEEN CHARGED, THE AGENCY MUST
CREDIT ANY OVER A PAYMENT AMOUNT
AGAINST THE OVERALL COST OF
PROVIDING THE SERVICE GOING
FORWARD. THIS IS A MATTER OF
EQUITY. THIS BILL ENSURES THAT
THE LOWER WATER USERS ARE NOT
SUBSIDIZING SUBSIDIZING THOSE ON
THE HIGHER END. IT'S A CRITICAL
PROTECTION FOR PUBLIC AGENCIES
AS THEY ADDRESS FEE CHALLENGES.
WE MUST ALSO SAFEGUARD EQUITABLE
APPROACHES TO SETTING WATER
RATES WHILE WE PROVIDE OUR
AGENCIES WITH THE FLEXIBILITY
THEY NEED TO OPERATE. AND SB
1072 ACHIEVES THAT BY PROVIDING
FOR A PROSPECTIVE REMEDY FOR
THESE SPECIFIC TYPES OF
CHALLENGES. THIS BILL HAS THE
SUPPORT OF AQUA CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION,
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES, MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
ASSOCIATION, AND AGENCIES,
PUBLIC AGENCIES OF ALL SIZES UP
AND DOWN THE STATE. BECAUSE OF
THE RECOGNITION THAT WITHOUT
LEGISLATIVE CLARIFICATION, THEY
TOO WILL ENCOUNTER THE SAME
ISSUES THAT MANY OF THE AGENCIES
AND PROVIDERS IN MY DISTRICT
FACE TODAY. I AM PLEASED TO BE
JOINED BY CLAIRE COLLINS, A
PARTNER AT HANSON BRIDGETT AND
SPECIAL COUNSEL TO THE OTAY
WATER DISTRICT, AND MOIRA TOP,
REPRESENTING THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M CLAIRE COLLINS, I'M A
PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM OF
HANSON BRIDGETT, WHERE I'M ALSO
THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC REVENUE
GROUP. I'M ALSO SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO OTAY WATER DISTRICT, WHICH IS
A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS BILL WITH
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WATER,
WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE ARE
ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES THAT
ARE PRIMARILY PROVIDED BY PUBLIC
AGENCIES, WHICH CANNOT MAKE A
PROFIT WHEN SETTING THEIR
SERVICE CHARGES. THEY ESTIMATE
THE TOTAL REVENUE REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE THAT SERVICE THROUGHOUT
THE COMING YEAR, AND THEN THEY
DIVIDE THEIR COSTS
PROPORTIONATELY AMONG THEIR
USERS BASED ON THEIR CUSTOMER
TYPE AND THEIR AMOUNT OF USE.
THE HALLMARK OF THE SYSTEM UNDER
PROP 218 IS THAT EACH USER PAYS
THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE
OF THE OVERALL COST OF SERVICE,
AND SUBSIDIES ARE PROHIBITED.
PUBLIC AGENCIES PROVIDE NOTICE
OF PROPOSED RATES TO ALL USERS.
THEY PREPARE DETAILED
ENGINEERING AND FINANCIAL
STUDIES, AND THEY HOLD PUBLIC
HEARINGS BEFORE ADOPTING THEIR
RATES. THAT GIVES THE PUBLIC THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AND
PROTEST PROPOSED RATES BEFORE
THEY ARE IMPOSED. A PRE ADOPTION
PROTEST IS A CHALLENGERS FIRST
REMEDY, AND THE ONLY ONE
REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
BUT AFTER RATES HAVE BEEN
ADOPTED, AGENCIES HAVE
INCREASINGLY BEEN SUBJECTED TO
LAWSUITS FROM HIGH WATER USERS
CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE PAYING
MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE. THEY
DEMAND REFUNDS IN LITIGATION,
WHICH, IF AWARDED, WOULD REQUIRE
THAT PUBLIC AGENCIES RAISE THEIR
FUTURE RATES IN ORDER TO PAY
BACK PRIOR WATER USERS. IN SOME
CASES, THIS COULD BE AS MUCH AS
A 40% INCREASE IN RATES FOR THE
FOLLOWING YEAR. AS A RESULT,
EVERYONE'S CHARGES WOULD GO UP
IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO PAY
BACK USERS FROM THE PAST. THERE
IS NO REPORTED CASE THAT
PROVIDES FOR A REFUND, THOUGH,
AND PROP 218 DOES ALLOW FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO MAKE LAW
IMPLEMENTING PROP 218, AN
APPROACH THAT CLEARLY PROVIDES
FOR FUTURE OFFSETS. INSTEAD OF A
REFUND, IS WHAT IS PROPOSED IN
THIS BILL, AND IT CLOSELY
MIRRORS A LAW THAT ALREADY
EXISTS GOVERNMENT CODE 66016,
WHICH WHICH IS WHICH IS WITH
RESPECT, I'M SORRY, WHICH IS
WITH RESPECT TO CAPACITY FEES,
WHICH IS THE OTHER PRIMARY FORM
OF REVENUES THAT WATER AND
WASTEWATER AGENCIES COLLECT. IN
THIS WAY, THE AGGRIEVED
RATEPAYERS RETAIN A REMEDY.
PUBLIC SERVICE PROVIDERS RETAIN
PREDICTABILITY WITH RESPECT TO
THEIR REVENUES, AND WE ENSURE
THAT LOW WATER USERS ARE NOT
SUBSIDIZING HIGH WATER USERS.
AND FOR THAT REASON, WE URGE
YOUR AYE VOTE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS. MOIRA,
TOP, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
SAN DIEGO, WE ARE A CO-SPONSOR.
AND AS THE SENATOR MENTIONED, WE
ARE ONE OF THE AGENCIES THAT IS
FACING LITIGATION IN A
SIGNIFICANT, COST ASSESSMENT. IF
THAT, IF THE LITIGATION
CONTINUES IN THE FASHION, IT'S,
HEADED RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE A
WHOLE LOT TO ADD. MY COLLEAGUE
AND THE SENATOR CERTAINLY
PROVIDED A THOROUGH OUTLINE OF,
OF THE BILL AND, AND THE
CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH
CURRENT LAW. BUT I WOULD SAY
THAT, THIS, THIS, ODD
CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO, CHARGE FUTURE
RATEPAYERS TO PAY FOR POTENTIAL
REFUNDS TO PAST RATEPAYERS
CREATES THIS VICIOUS CYCLE THAT
MAKES NO SENSE. AND HONESTLY, IT
COULD POTENTIALLY REQUIRE US TO
RAISE RATES ON THOSE FUTURE
RATEPAYERS. AND AGAIN, GETTING
INTO THIS VICIOUS CYCLE OF RATE
PAYING OF INCREASED RATES, WHICH
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY
WANTS TO SEE. SO WE THINK THIS
IS A BILL, A BILL THAT BALANCES
THE INTERESTS OF FUTURE AND PAST
RATEPAYERS. AND WE THINK IT,
GOING FORWARD, WE THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT MEASURE TO SAFEGUARD,
RATEPAYERS AS WELL AS THE
GENERAL FUND FOR OUR CITY AND
OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. AND WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
FOR THAT. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
ROOM THAT WANTS TO ADD ON,
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON THE
BILL, BALTASAR CORNEJO WITH
BROWNSTEIN ON BEHALF OF OTAY
WATER DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING. MARCUS DETWILER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ERIC LARA, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
HELLO, KEELEY. MORRIS WITH
EDELSTEIN, GILBERT, ROBSON AND
SMITH ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. HELLO,
CHAIR AND MEMBERS KRISTEN OLSON,
KATE, REPRESENTING THE SAN DIEGO
COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY IN
SUPPORT. RECEIVERS FOR THE
COACHELLA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT
IN SUPPORT. MELISSA SPARKS KRANZ
WITH THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA
CITIES AND ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES IN SUPPORT KEISHA HUNT
WITH NOSSAMAN. AND I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF OLIVENHAIN MUNICIPAL
WATER DISTRICT AND PADRE DAM
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT. MORNING. MR. CHAIRMAN,
BOB REEB WITH REEB GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS ON BEHALF OF DESERT
WATER AGENCY, EL DORADO
IRRIGATION DISTRICT, PALMDALE
WATER DISTRICT, ROLLING WATER
DISTRICT AND WALNUT VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MEASURE?
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SEAT
IF YOU LIKE. I AM SCOTT KAUFMAN
WITH THE HOWARD JARVIS TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION, THERE IS A
CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM HERE. IT
CAN BE EXPLAINED IN THE CRITICAL
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DAMAGES AND
REFUNDS. THIS BILL CONFUSES
THEM. DAMAGES MAY BE SET OR
LIMITED BY STATUTE. REFUNDS MAY
NOT. REFUNDS ARE CONSTITUTIONAL.
IF A WATER DISTRICT HAS
OVERCHARGED ITS CUSTOMERS AND IS
FOUND TO HAVE DONE THAT IN A
COURT OF LAW, WHICH IS THE
SITUATION HERE, THEY NEED TO PAY
THAT MONEY BACK. THAT'S THE VERY
CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEE OF PROP
218. PROPOSITION 218 IS NOT A
STATUTE. IT IS IN OUR
CONSTITUTION. IT THEREFORE
CANNOT BE AMENDED BY STATUTE AS
SB 1072 ATTEMPTS TO DO. IN FACT,
THE ESSENCE OF THIS BILL IS ALSO
A LEGAL ARGUMENT BEING MADE
RIGHT NOW IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT
COURT OF APPEAL. THAT IS NOT A
COINCIDENCE. WE SHOULD LET THE
COURT OF APPEALS DO ITS JOB, NOT
LEGISLATE OVER ITS WORK
INTERPRETING THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION. JUDGES TAKE THEIR
POSITION VERY SERIOUSLY AND HAVE
NO INTENTION OF CRAFTING
REMEDIES THAT WOULD BANKRUPT THE
WATER AGENCY. RESPECT THE WORK
THAT THAT BELONGS IN THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH, NOT THIS ONE.
LASTLY, THE OSTENSIBLE WORRIES
BEHIND THIS BILL ARE
EXAGGERATED. IT HAS LONG BEEN
ESTABLISHED THAT REFUNDS ONLY GO
BACK ONE YEAR. THAT'S GOVERNMENT
CODE 911.2. MOST WATER AGENCIES
COMPLY WITH CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
WE SHOULD BE COMMENDING THEM
INSTEAD OF GIVING SPECIAL
PARDONS TO THOSE WHO DO NOT.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. THAT'S WHY. THAT'S
WHY THE PEOPLE PASSED
PROPOSITION 218 AND I ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU, THANK
YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM THAT WANTS TO ADD IN
OPPOSITION, SEEING NONE,
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTS,
QUESTIONS FOR WHAT'S IN FRONT OF
US, SEEING NONE. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE, SENATOR, I THANK THE
CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMITTEE. I
WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT THERE
IS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR DEBATE AND
DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE STATUS OF
THE LAW ON THE QUESTION
PRESENTED. I'D BE VERY
INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME
CASES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I
THINK THAT IN TERMS OF
PRESCRIBING A REMEDY, I THINK
THERE'S ALSO A LARGE BODY OF LAW
THAT CLARIFIES THAT WE ARE NOT
OUT OF BOUNDS HERE. AND I THINK
THAT IN TERMS OF THE PROPER
QUESTION ON POLICY, THIS IS THE
MOST EQUITABLE WAY TO WEIGH IN
IN TERMS OF THE APPROPRIATE TYPE
OF REMEDY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE
FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION AND WE'LL
TURN IT TO SOME, YOU KNOW, IS,
IS WHETHER FOLKS ARE MADE WHOLE.
AND THE MECHANISM OF THAT,
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION
ABOUT THE LEVEL OF DISCRETION WE
HAVE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT AND I
BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT
POLICY. AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU.
SENATOR. I NEED A MOTION AND A
SECOND BEFORE WE PROCEED. WE
HAVE PERSON A SECOND. THANK YOU
FOR PRESENTING YOUR BILL TODAY,
SENATOR. I WILL BE VOTING ON.
AYE. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS. CARILLO
Ã CARILLO. AYE. WALDRON.
WALDRON. AYE. SALLY HANEY.
HANEY. AYE. CORA. CORA. AYE.
PACHECO RAMOS. RAMOS AYE. WARD.
WILSON. WILSON AYE. THE VOTE IS
SIX ZERO. THE BEALL SAU WILL
LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN FOR OTHERS
TO ADD ON. PERFECT TIMING BY
SENATOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS. THANK
YOU. SEN. ARE YOU READY OR NEED
A COUPLE OF MINUTES? YOU'RE
READY. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS LEFT ON
THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 11, SB
1210 BY SENATOR SKINNER AND ALSO
BY SENATOR SKINNER. SB 1211,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH
1210? YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. IN MY FACE. OKAY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS,
PLEASED TO PRESENT, SB 1210, OUR
PUBLIC UTILITIES, WATER
DISTRICTS, ELECTRIC OR GAS
DISTRICTS. NOW, UNDER CURRENT
LAW, IF YOU ARE, WHETHER YOU'RE
A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER WHO'S
BUILDING AN ADU OR YOU'RE
SOMEONE BUILDING A MULTIFAMILY,
YOU CAN GO ONLINE ON THOSE
PUBLIC UTILITIES AND IT IS
LISTED WHAT THE FEE IS FOR THE
HOOKUPS. AND OF COURSE, THAT FEE
WILL VARY. IT VARIES. DEPENDING
ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, IF IT'S
A ELECTRIC UTILITY, YOU KNOW,
HOW LONG THE LINE HAS TO BE
EXTENDED AND SUCH, BUT THAT
INFORMATION IS ON THESE
WEBSITES, AND YOU CAN KNOW IN
ADVANCE YOU HAVE SOME SENSE,
SOME ESTIMATION OF WHAT THAT'S
GOING TO COST YOU. OUR OTHER
UTILITIES, HOWEVER, DO NOT POST
THAT INFORMATION, WHICH MAKES IT
DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT CALCULATE WHAT ARE
YOUR COSTS IN WHATEVER
DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT
THAT HOOKUP FEE IS GOING TO
COST, ORIGINALLY I WANTED TO PUT
A CAP ON THESE FEES, BUT THAT OF
COURSE, WOULD CREATE RATEPAYER
PRESSURE. SO INSTEAD, WHAT THIS
BILL DOES IS CREATE THAT
TRANSPARENCY SO THAT YOU CAN GO
ONLINE, SEE THIS INFORMATION AND
MAKE THE DECISIONS ACCORDINGLY.
THERE IS AN EXEMPTION IN THE
BILL FOR VERY SMALL UTILITIES,
THAT DON'T EVEN MAINTAIN
WEBSITES. THOSE WITH, I GOT TO
GET THE NUMBER RIGHT. THOSE WITH
CUSTOMERS. WHERE IS IT LESS THAN
4000 CUSTOMERS. YES I WAS ABOUT
TO SAY 400. I KNEW THAT WAS
WRONG, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY
THE WRONG NUMBER. SO ANYWAY,
THAT'S WHAT THE BILL DOES. SO I
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. STEVENSON
STENZLER MY WITNESS IN SUPPORT
SPEAK TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.
SENATOR. GOOD MORNING, MISTER
CHAIR MEMBERS STEPHEN SANDLER
WITH BROWN SEEING ON BEHALF OF
THE HOUSING ACTION COALITION.
THE HOUSING ACTION COALITION IS
A MEMBER SUPPORTED NONPROFIT
THAT ADVOCATES FOR BUILDING MORE
HOMES AT ALL LEVELS OF
AFFORDABILITY TO HELP ALLEVIATE
CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING SHORTAGE,
DISPLACEMENT AND AFFORDABILITY
CRISIS. HAC IS PROUD TO SPONSOR
SB 1210. THANKS SENATOR SKINNER
FOR HER WORK. WE HAVE HEARD
CONSISTENTLY FROM OUR MEMBERS
THAT THE EXPENSE AND UNCERTAINTY
ASSOCIATED WITH CONNECTING NEW
HOUSING TO UTILITY SERVICES IS A
MAJOR DRIVER OF COST AND DELAYS
IN THE HOME BUILDING PROCESS.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE GREAT
STRIDES IN RECENT YEARS IN
REINING IN EXCESSIVE IMPACT FEES
AND BRINGING TRANSPARENCY TO THE
FEE STACK, BUT THE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRICAL, GAS,
SEWER AND WATER SERVICE REMAIN
DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN AHEAD OF
TIME. SB 1210 IS A GOOD
GOVERNMENT PROPOSAL THAT WILL
PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF COSTS AND
TIMELINES EARLY IN THE PROCESS,
ALLOWING BUILDERS TO PLAN THEIR
FINANCES AND CONSTRUCTION
TIMELINES ACCORDINGLY, SAVING
MONEY AND DELIVERING MUCH NEEDED
HOUSING FASTER. IN AN
ENVIRONMENT WHERE HOUSING OFTEN
TEETERS ON THE BRINK OF
FINANCIAL INFEASIBILITY, WE NEED
TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE
IT EASIER FOR THEM TO SUCCEED IN
THE DEVELOPING WORLD. FEW THINGS
MAKE IT HARDER AND MORE
EXPENSIVE TO BUILD THAN
UNFORESEEN COSTS, AND
UNPREDICTABLE TIMELINES. THIS
BILL IS A POSITIVE STEP TOWARDS
REDUCING THESE RISKS AND
PROVIDES ANOTHER HELPFUL TOOL TO
ADDRESS OUR ONGOING HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. FOR THESE
REASONS, HAC IS PROUD TO SPONSOR
SB 1210 AND WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU, THANK
YOU. ANYONE IN THE ROOM THAT
WANTS TO ADD ANY SUPPORT, PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ON THE BILL. HELLO,
MEMBERS, MEMBERS, SORRY. CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. JORDAN
CARVAJAL, ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA YIMBY IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
NOT SEEN ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE A
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION. I SEE
SOMEONE COMING AT THE TABLE AND
THEN THEY'LL SIT THERE. THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS. BOB
REEB WITH REEB GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS ON BEHALF OF PALMDALE
WATER DISTRICT AND EL DORADO
IRRIGATION DISTRICT, SENATOR'S
STATEMENT WAS THE FIRST HALF OF
MY STATEMENT, THIS BILL SHOULD
ONLY BE APPLYING TO WATER
CORPORATIONS. ELECTRIC
CORPORATIONS AND OTHERS THAT
COME UNDER THE MUNICIPAL
UTILITY, LAWS. THE CHALLENGE
THAT WE HAVE IS THAT LOCAL
AGENCIES ALREADY HAVE TO PROVIDE
THIS INFORMATION UNDER THE
GOVERNMENT CODE. SO WE HAVE
REQUESTED FROM THE AUTHOR'S
STAFF, EVIDENCE, ANECDOTAL OR
OTHERWISE, AS TO WHERE LOCAL
AGENCIES HAVE CAUSED DELAYS IN
INSTALLING SERVICE CONNECTIONS
FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THEY
ALREADY ARE REQUIRED UNDER
EXISTING LAW TO PUBLISH ALL THE
INFORMATION THAT THIS BILL
REQUIRES. SO HERE'S THE PROBLEM
WITH THE BILL. IT WILL NOW, AT
BEST, CREATE A DUPLICATIVE
REPORTING REQUIREMENT FOR A
MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRICTS, CITIES
AND IRRIGATION DISTRICTS. BUT IT
LEAVES OUT ALL THE OTHER LOCAL
AGENCIES. SO IF YOU'RE A HOUSING
ADVOCATE OR A DEVELOPER AND YOU
WANT TO GO FIND THIS
INFORMATION, IN PARTICULAR, THE
TIMELINES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED
TO BE PRODUCED BY THE BILL. IF
YOU LOOK AT A COUNTY SERVICE
AREA, A COMMUNITY SERVICES
DISTRICT, A COUNTY WATER
DISTRICT, A CALIFORNIA WATER
DISTRICT, OR COUNTY WATER WORKS
DISTRICT WEBSITE, THE
INFORMATION IS NOT GOING TO BE
THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
INCLUDED IN THE BILL. SO YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE VERY CONFUSING
SITUATION. OUR SIMPLE AMENDMENTS
ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENTS IS TO
TAKE IRRIGATION DISTRICTS OUT OF
THE BILL. THEY'RE ALREADY
COVERED UNDER EXISTING LAW. SO
WE WOULD ASK FOR A NO VOTE
ABSENT THAT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM THAT WANTS TO BE ADDED ON
IN OPPOSITION, SEEING NO ONE, I
TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS
ON THIS MEASURE SEEING NONE,
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
? CERTAINLY. I'M. I WILL
DEFINITELY COMMIT TO LOOKING AT
WHETHER THERE IS, IN FACT, ANY
DUPLICATIVE. DUPLICATIVE WAS NOT
OUR INTENTION TO HAVE ANY ENTITY
THAT IS POSTING THIS INFORMATION
TO HAVE TO REPOST IT. SO WE WILL
LOOK AT THAT. I ALSO APOLOGIZE,
FAILED TO, OPEN THAT, THERE IS,
IN THE LAST COMMITTEE, WE I
AGREED TO TAKE SOME AMENDMENTS
AND THERE'S ONE OF THEM THAT WE
STILL HAVEN'T LANDED THE WORDING
ON, AND THAT WAS AROUND
GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE
ESTIMATED FEE SCHEDULES, SO, SO
THAT IT IS NOT OVERLY
COMPLICATED, AND SO I AM STILL
COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. I'M
REAFFIRMING THAT I WILL BE DOING
THAT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO DO
THAT IN A PROBE. JUST BECAUSE OF
THE TIMELINES. BUT OTHER THAN
THAT, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
AND ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU. SENATOR, WE NEED A MOTION
AND A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND, THANK YOU FOR
PRESENTING YOUR BILL. I WILL BE
VOTING. AYE. THE MOTION IS DUE.
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
CARILLO I MORRELL I WALDRON.
SALLY HANEY. HANEY. I CORRE
CORRE I PACHECO J I RAMOS. WARD
A WARD I WILSON. WILSON I. BODY
SIX. THE BILL SAAD WILL LEAVE
THE ROLL OPEN FOR THE MEMBERS TO
ADD ON, YOU HAVE A SECOND BILL,
SENATOR? YES. THANK YOU. AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 12, SB 1211. WHEN
YOU'RE READY. THANKS. SO MUCH,
SB 1211. SO WE ARE ALL VERY
AWARE THAT CALIFORNIA HAS A
HOUSING CRISIS. AND WE HAVE DONE
WE THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE A
LOT TO, TO BASICALLY HELP
FACILITATE MORE HOUSING UNITS.
AND ONE OF OUR SUCCESS STORIES
HAS BEEN ADUS IN THE IN FACT,
ABOUT 25% OF ALL PERMITS FOR
HOUSING BEING ISSUED IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN FOR
THESE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
NOW, OUR LAWS RECENTLY, IT WAS A
COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT WE MOST
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ADUS ON, SAY,
A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY,
THEY'RE CONSIDERED GRANNY FLATS
OR SECOND UNITS, BUT ACTUALLY
OUR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. SO
IN OTHER WORDS, OUR CONDO
COMPLEXES, OUR APARTMENT
COMPLEXES, MANY OF THEM AT THE
POINT THAT THEY WERE BUILT OR
DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS YOU
COULD CONSIDER THAT THEY, THEY
HAD THE LUXURY OF, OF, OF, YOU
KNOW, HAVING, HAVING LOTS OF
SPACES OR SPOTS ON THE, ON THE
PROPERTY THAT THEY DID NOT PUT
HOUSING UNITS. SO NOW ALLOWING
ADUS ON MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES
IS A VERY PRACTICAL WAY TO ADD
HOUSING TO EXISTING HOUSING,
WHERE THERE ALREADY IS
INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE THE ZONING
IS ALREADY ACCOMMODATED FOR SUCH
HOUSING. SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES
IS ADD TO OUR CURRENT LAW. OUR
CURRENT LAW ALLOWS FOR ADUS ON
MULTIFAMILY, BUT HAD A
RESTRICTION OF ONLY TWO DETACHED
ADUS, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE THE
PROPERTY WAS. SO IN OTHER WORDS,
YOU COULD HAVE A 500 UNIT
COMPLEX AND YET OUR CURRENT LAW
WOULD ONLY HAVE ALLOWED TWO
DETACHED ADUS. SO WHAT MY BILL
DOES IS RAISE THAT UP TO EIGHT.
I WAS HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE
MORE, BUT IT'S AT EIGHT NOW, AND
AGAIN, THAT IT IS NOT AT EIGHT
IF YOU'RE ONLY A FOUR PLEX. SO
IT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 25% OF
TOTAL UNITS, BUT IT'S A CAPPED
AT EIGHT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF
YOU'RE A 250 UNIT COMPLEX, YOU
WOULD STILL ONLY HAVE EIGHT
DETACHED ADUS. SO IT'S BETTER
THAN CURRENT LAW, BUT IT IS
MODEST. AND WITH THAT I WILL
TURN TO MY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
AND THEY ARE GRACIELA CASTILLO
FROM THE CASITA COALITION. AND
JACKIE TEDESCO FROM AVALON BAY,
WHO IS, THEY MANAGE A NUMBER OF
APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHERE THEY
ARE BUILDING ADUS. GO AHEAD. ALL
RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M
JACKIE TEDESCO, SENIOR VICE
PRESIDENT OF ASSET MANAGEMENT
FOR AVALONBAY COMMUNITIES. I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT SB 1211. AND
THANK SENATOR SKINNER FOR
AUTHORING THE BILL. SO BRIEF
BACKGROUND ON AVALONBAY, WE'RE A
MULTIFAMILY REIT, WITH 100
COMMUNITIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA
THAT INCLUDES 30,000 UNITS, 41
OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND THE
BALANCE 59 ARE IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR
PORTFOLIO, THERE'S OVER 100
PARCELS, CLOSE TO 150 PARCELS
AND WHEN YOU DO THE MATH FOR
WHAT SENATOR SKINNER HAS DRAFTED
, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ABLE
TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF
DETACHED HOMES THAT WE ADD FROM
2 OR 200 TO CLOSE TO 800, SO
FAR, WE'VE COMPLETED JUST OVER
40 ADUS IN THE CONVERSION SPACES
THAT SENATOR SKINNER DESCRIBED,
LOUNGES THAT WEREN'T BEING USED,
STORAGE AREAS, LAUNDRY ROOMS, WE
HAVE 400 MORE ADUS COMING IN OUR
PIPELINE, LAST MONTH, WE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW SENATOR
SKINNER AROUND PROPERTIES IN HER
DISTRICT AND THE SURROUNDING
AREA, WE WERE ABLE TO SHOWCASE,
MANY ADUS THAT WE'RE BUILDING
WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND, AND
ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES
COMMUNITIES. SO WE'RE ABLE TO
INCREASE THE HOUSING SUPPLY, WE
ALSO SHARED SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES WITH SENATOR SKINNER
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME,
AND IT'S TAKING SOME WORK, BUT
WE'RE GETTING THERE SLOWLY BUT
SURELY. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE PLEASED TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL, IT IS GOING TO ALLOW
GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN BUILDING
THESE DETACHED ADUS IN THESE
UNDERUTILIZED SITE AREAS. IT'S
GOING TO PROHIBIT LOCAL AGENCIES
FROM REQUIRING THE REPLACEMENT
OF PARKING SPACES WHEN A CARPORT
PER SE OR COVERED PARKING, IS
BEING USED TO BUILD HOUSING, AND
IT REALLY IS A PATHWAY FOR
CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF MORE
HOUSING THAT WE NEED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. SO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. GRACIELA CASTILLO,
AS THE SENATOR SAID HERE
REPRESENTING THE CASITA
COALITION. BUT I'M ALSO HERE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING CONSORTIUM. AND THE
REASON I BRING THEM UP, THEY ARE
ACTUALLY THE OWNERS AND
DEVELOPERS OF 100% AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. THEY ACTUALLY SEE THIS
BILL AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO
ADD MORE UNITS ON LAND THAT THEY
ALREADY OWN. THE IDEA IS IF THIS
BILL WOULD ALLOW FOR APARTMENTS
THAT HAVE NEW PARKING SPACE OR
PARKING SPACE THAT'S BEING
UNUSED, ANY EXTRA LAND THAT IS
AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY
PUT ADDITIONAL UNITS THROUGH
ADUS. AND SO WE THINK THAT
THAT'S A REALLY SMART POLICY.
IT'S A GREAT WAY OF ACTUALLY
CREATING ADDITIONAL DENSITY ON
INVESTMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS
ALREADY MADE. AND SO WE ARE
EXCITED TO SEE JUST INNOVATIVE,
CREATIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION
COME OUT THAT ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK. AND WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE AND ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. I SEE PEOPLE COMING
LINING UP IN SUPPORT. PLEASE
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ON THE BILL. YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MICHAEL
GUNNING, LIGHTHOUSE PUBLIC
AFFAIRS HERE IN SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF BILL CASA SPUR
FIELDSTEAD AND ALSO EDEN HOUSING
, URGE YOUR PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU. STEVEN SENZER WITH
BROWN SEEING ON BEHALF OF THE
HOUSING ACTION COALITION AND
SUPPORT. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE, JOHN CARVAJAL, ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA YIMBY HERE
TO SUPPORT AS A PROUD CO-SPONSOR
OF THE BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
PETER HANSELL, ADVOCACY
VOLUNTEER FOR AARP CALIFORNIA,
AARP IS IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION SEEING
NONE TAKING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTS,
QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION A
SECOND, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND. SENATOR, THANK YOU
FOR CONTINUING TO BE A CHAMPION
IN ADUS. I AM USED TO BE A
PLANNER, AND I KNOW THE
CHALLENGES FOR NEW MULTIFAMILY
CONSTRUCTIONS, THAT WE HAVE. THE
TIMING TO GO THROUGH, THE
ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, THE COST OF
FINANCING THIS MULTIFAMILY
PROJECTS. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER
THAT ADUS IS A VERY EFFECTIVE
WAY TO, PROVIDE A HOUSING UNITS
THAT WE NEED, NOT THE ONLY WAY
WE NEED TO DO BETTER FOR
MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION. I AM
GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL, AND
IF I CAN BE ADDED AS A COAUTHOR,
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU, EXCELLENT. I WOULD
DEFINITELY ADD YOU AS A
COAUTHOR. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED.
APPROPRIATION CARILLO Ã
CARILLO. I WALDRON. EASILY.
HANEY HANEY I CORRE CORRE I
PACHECO. PACHECO I RAMOS. WARD A
WARD I WILSON. WILSON I 6060.
THE BILL IS SOUGHT. WE'LL LEAVE
THE ROLL OPEN FOR OTHERS TO ADD
ON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK
YOU, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END
OF THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, WE DO
HAVE ADD ONS TO GO THROUGH,
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE, Ó
MOTION FOR SB SEVEN. SB SEVEN,
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR SB
SEVEN? ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE
AGENDA? FIRST AND SECOND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL SB SEVEN. THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS
APPROPRIATION CARILLO Ã
CARILLO. AYE IS SALLY HANEY
HANEY. AYE CORRE CORRE AYE.
PACHECO. AYE PACHECO AYE. RAMOS.
WARD AYE. WARD I WILSON. WILSON
AYE. SIX ZERO. THE BILL IS OUT.
I BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION ALSO.
NO, THE NEXT ONE. THE NEXT ONE.
THE NEXT ONE IS SB 347. NEWMAN.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED. CARILLO. AYE CARILLO.
AYE. SALLY WARD. WARD I WILSON.
WILSON. AYE A0 THE BILL IS OUT.
WE NEED A MOTION FOR SB 721
SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATION ON SB 721.
CARILLO Ã CARILLO. AYE. IS
SALLY HANEY HANEY. AYE CORRE
CORRE AYE. PACHECO PACHECO AYE.
RAMOS WARD. HIGH WARD. AYE
WILSON. WILSON. AYE SIX ZERO.
THE BILLS OUT A SERIES NOT
COMING. OKAY. WE NEED TO MAKE A
CORRECTION. WE ARE GOOD. SIX
ZERO. THE BILLS OUT. I COULD DO
THIS ONE. SB 925 WIENER THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO PUBLIC
SAFETY. THE SALLY WARD. WARD I
WILSON WILSON I ACR THE BILLS
OUT. WE NEED A MOTION FOR SB 977
FIRST AND SECOND, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE.
PASS TO APPROPRIATION. CARILLO.
AYE. CARILLO. AYE WALDRON. THE
SALLY HANEY. HANEY IKORA. KALRA.
AYE. PACHECO. CHICO. AYE RAMOS.
WARD. WARD AYE. WILSON. WILSON.
AYE 6060. THE BILLS OUT. WE NEED
A MOTION FOR SB 1045 BY BLAKE
SPEER. FIRST AND SECOND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS TO APPROPRIATION ON SB
1045. CARILLO Ã CARILLO. AYE.
WALDRON IS SALLY HANEY A HANEY
AYE. CORRE CORRE AYE. PACHECO
PACHECO AYE. RAMOS WARD. WARD.
AYE WILSON. WILSON. AYE SIX
ZERO. THE BILLS OUT. SB 1072.
THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS THE
SALLY PACHECO PACHECO. AYE.
WARD. WARD. AYE THE MORE THE
BILL SAU AT EIGHT ZERO THE.
THANK YOU. NEED A MOTION FOR SB
1111 SO MOVED SECOND. THE FIRST
AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED ON SB 1111. CARILLO A
CARILLO AYE. IS SALLY WALDRON.
HANEY. HANEY. AYE. CORA CARRA.
AYE. PACHECO. PACHECO. AYE
RAMOS. WARD WARD. AYE. WILSON.
WILSON AYE. 6060. THE BILLS OUT.
1111 IS DUE. PASS TO A AS
AMENDED TO A PROPS. WE NEED A
MOTION FOR 1123 SECOND, FIRST
AND SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. THE MOTION ON SB 1123 IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED TO APPROVE.
CARILLO. AYE. CARILLO. AYE
WALDRON, IS SALLY HANEY. HANEY.
AYE. CORRE CORRE AYE. PACHECO.
CHICO. AYE RAMOS. WARD. WARD.
AYE WILSON. WILSON. AYE 60 160.
THE BILLS OUT. SB 1193 IS DUE.
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. A SALLY WARD A
WARD AYE WILSON. WILSON. AYE A
SIERRA. THE BILLS OUT SB 1210
SKINNER. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
APPROPRIATIONS WALDRON IS SALLY
RAMOS SIX ZERO. THE BILLS OUT.
SB 1325 IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CARILLO. Ã.
CARILLO. AYE SALLY WARD. WARD.
AYE. WILSON. WILSON AYE.
BLAKESPEAR THE BILLS OUT SB
1418. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS
THE TRANSPORTATION. AS SALLY
CORRE CORRE NOT VOTING. WARD.
WARD. AYE WILSON. WILSON. AYE
4567770. THE BILLS OUT. SB 1514
IS A DUE PASS CONSENT TO SALLY
WARD WILSON. A WILSON AYE 7070.
THE BILL IS OUT. THAT CONCLUDES
ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. YOU'RE
GOING TO WAIT A COUPLE MORE
MINUTES TO SEE IF ANY OTHER
MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE ADDING
ON, SHE HAS BEEN NOTIFIED THAT
WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU. YES, YES YES YES. WE
ARE.