BACKWARDS GOOD AFTERNOON. THE
ASSEMBLY HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO
ORDER. ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM,
WE'LL ESTABLISH A QUORUM. THANK
YOU, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR
PATIENCE. WELCOME TO THE HEARING
OF THE ASSEMBLY. HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE. PLEASE NOTE
THAT TODAY IS THE LAST OF TWO
HEARINGS OF SENATE BILLS. I WILL
NOW GO OVER SOME KEY ELEMENTS OF
THE STRUCTURE OF TODAY'S
HEARING. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE
THIS HEARING WILL NOT HAVE PH¢N
TESTIMONY, WE ARE ACCEPTING
WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH THE
POSITION LETTER PORTAL ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE AT W DOT
AHEAD DOT ASSEMBLY CA.GOV. BILLS
OF TÊ TAKEN UP AND SIGNED AN
ORDER. AUTHORS. YOU CAN SIGN IN
AT THE SERGEANT'S DESK IN ROOM
437. ADDITIONALLY, PLEASE NOTE
THAT THE GUIDELINE FOR BILL IS
HEARD IN THIS COMMITTEE IS TO
ALLOW FOR TESTIMONY FROM TWO
LEAD WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
TWO LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO SPEAK FOR NO MORE THAN TWO
MINUTES EACH. STAKEHOLDER GROUPS
AND ENTITIES THAT ARE NEITHER
SUPPORT NOR IN OPPOSITION WILL
BE ALLOWED TO GIVE TESTIMONY FOR
NO MORE THAN TWO MINUTES. WHEN A
CALL FOR TWEENERS. IF A MEASURE
HAS MORE THAN TWO ENTITIES AND A
TWEENER CATEGORY, ONLY TWO WOULD
BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR TWO
MINUTES EACH. MEMBERS. IF YOU'D
LIKE TO RESPOND TO A ROLL CALL,
ASK A QUESTION, OR PROVIDE A
COMMENT, PLEASE BE SURE TO
ACTIVATE YOUR MICROPHONE AND
SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE. FOR
AUTHORS OF BILLS UP TODAY
AUTHORS, EACH MEMBER PRESENTING
TODAY WILL PROVIDE AN OPENING
AND A CLOSING STATEMENT. AS
PREVIOUSLY STATED, YOUR TWO LEAD
WITNESSES WILL EACH HAVE TWO
MINUTES TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY IN
TODAY'S HEARING. WE HAVE SEVEN
MEASURES ON THE AGENDA TODAY,
WITH TWO MEASURES PROPOSED FOR
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND ONCE
WE HAVE QUORUM, WE'LL TAKE UP
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND WITH
THAT, FIRST OFFICERS WE'D LIKE
TO WELCOME IS SENATOR ROTH
PRESENTING SB 895. WELCOME,
SENATOR ROTH. THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR. AS YOU ALL KNOW, FOR
DECADES, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ASSOCIATE DEGREE OF NURSING HAS
BEEN THE BASIC CREDENTIAL
REQUIREMENT FOR EMPLOYMENT AS A
REGISTERED NURSE AND A HEALTH
CARE FACILITY, CERTAINLY IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER, AS
YOU MAY ALSO KNOW, DUE TO A PUSH
BY CREDENTIALING ORGANIZATIONS
TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF
NURSES HOLDING BSN OR BACHELOR
OF SCIENCE AND NURSING DEGREES
TO 80% OF THOSE EMPLOYED IN
HEALTH CARE FACILITIES, THE BSN
DEGREE HAS NOW BECOMING THE NEW
INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR EMPLOYMENT
IN CALIFORNIA HOSPITALS. WHETHER
WE LIKE IT OR NOT. A BSN ALSO,
APPARENTLY APPEARS TO BE A
REQUIREMENT FOR ATTAINMENT OF A
MASTER'S DEGREE IN NURSING AND A
DOCTORATE OF NURSE PRACTICE.
THERE WAS A 2021 HEALTH IMPACT
REPORT IN THIS STATE THAT FOUND
THAT 18% OF CALIFORNIA HOSPITALS
SURVEYED STATED THAT A BSN WAS
REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYMENT, TWICE
THE PERCENTAGE NOTED IN 2017,
AND 54.3% REPORTED A PREFERENCE
FOR HIRING BSN DEGREED NURSES.
MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, AT LEAST FOR
ME, 31.5% OF THE NEW ADN
ASSOCIATE DEGREE NURSES SURVEYED
STATED THAT THE LACK OF A BSN
DEGREE WAS GIVEN AS THE REASON
FOR THEIR FAILURE TO BE HIRED AS
A NURSE. THIS DEMAND FOR THE
PRODUCTION OF BSN CREDENTIALED
REGISTERED NURSES TO CONTINUES
TO INCREASE IN PRODUCTION HAS
NOT MET DEMAND. THIS BILL
PROPOSES TO UTILIZE EXISTING ADN
PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE SYSTEM TO SUPPLEMENT THE
WORK OF OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
BSN PROGRAMS AT OUR
UNDERUTILIZED COMMUNITY COLLEGES
ON A LIMITED BASIS. TO MEET THIS
DEMAND, THE BILL CREATES, AS YOU
KNOW FROM THE BILL, A PILOT
PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZES THE STATE
CHANCELLOR TO SELECT UP TO 15
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS WITH
NATIONALLY ACCREDITED ADN
PROGRAMS TO OFFER A BSN DEGREE
TO UP TO 25% OF EACH ADN CLASS,
OR 35 STUDENTS, WHICHEVER IS
GREATER. AND THAT'S TO
ACCOMMODATE THE SMALLER SCHOOLS.
SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? WELL,
WHEN STUDENTS ENTER THE BSN
PHASE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, THEY
WILL HAVE ALREADY EARNED THEIR
ADN. THEY WILL HAVE PASSED THEIR
NCLEX, THEIR NATIONAL COUNCIL
LICENSURE EXAM, AND SECURED
THEIR RN LICENSE. SINCE THEY'RE
ALREADY LICENSED AS NURSES BY
THE WAY, AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE
FEE LEVELS, PARTICIPATING
STUDENTS WOULD THEN TAKE THE
ADDITIONAL NON-CLINICAL
COURSEWORK NECESSARY TO EARN THE
BSN AT THEIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
AGAIN AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE FEE
LEVELS, ALLOWING THESE STUDENTS
TO WORK IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AS
NURSES AROUND THEIR CLASS
SCHEDULES AND FAMILY
RESPONSIBILITIES FROM A
CURRICULUM STANDPOINT, YOU MAY
NOT REALIZE THIS. I DIDN'T. THE
NURSING CLINICAL COMPONENT OF
THE ADN PROGRAM IS ESSENTIALLY
THE SAME AS THE CLINICAL PROGRAM
APPLICABLE TO BSN PROGRAMS, THE
NCLEX AND THE RN LICENSURE
REQUIREMENTS ARE EXACTLY THE
SAME. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
TWO PROGRAMS BASICALLY CONSISTS
OF APPROXIMATELY 30 UNITS OF
COURSEWORK, WHICH GENERALLY
INCLUDE HUMANITIES AND
MANAGEMENT COURSEWORK AND ONE
COMMUNITY HEALTH COURSE, NØ
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS. DESPITE THE
RHETORIC TO THE CONTRARY, NO
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS WILL BE
REQUIRED FOR THIS PROGRAM
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY NURSES,
THEY'RE ALREADY ASSOCIATE DEGREE
NURSES WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE
CLINICAL PHASES OF THE NURSING
PROGRAM. THE BILL REQUIRES THAT
PRIORITY PARTICIPATION BE
GRANTED TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICTS LOCATED IN UNDERSERVED
NURSING AREAS, AND REQUIRES THAT
THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE
DEVELOP A PROCESS TO ASSIST
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS
WITHOUT NATIONALLY ACCREDITED
PROGRAMS TO ATTAIN IT.
PRIORITIZING THE CENTRAL VALLEY
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BY
SUPPLEMENTING THE WORK OF OUR
EXISTING PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BSN
PROGRAMS IN THIS WAY, ADDITIONAL
BSN DEGREED NURSES WILL BE ADDED
TO THE WORKFORCE. NURSES WHO ARE
QUALIFIED TO BECOME SUPERVISORS
AND MANAGERS IN HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES, AND NURSES WHO WERE
QUALIFIED TO BECOME MASTERS OR
DOCTORATE DEGREED NURSE
PRACTITIONERS IN INDEPENDENT
PRACTICE SETTINGS AND AS NURSING
SCHOOL FACULTY MEMBERS, FACULTY
MEMBERS THAT WE DO NEED. SO WITH
THAT AND WITH ME TO TESTIFY ON
BEHALF OF THE BILL TODAY IS
TAMMY VANTOL, RIVERSIDE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT DEAN
OF NURSING AND KIMBERLY MULLEN
WITH THE UNITED NURSES
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA. THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR. SENATOR. AND BEFORE WE
DO THAT, LET'S WE'RE GOING TO
ESTABLISH QUORUM. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MADAM SECRETARY. ROLL
CALL, PLEASE. FONG HERE TO HEAR
ARAMBULA BURNER HERE. CHEN HERE
EASILY HERE IRWIN JACKSON HERE.
LO MURATSUCHI QUIRK-SILVA. THANK
YOU. COLLEAGUES, BEFORE WE
PROCEED WITH THE TESTIMONY,
WE'LL TAKE UP THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. THE MEASURES ON
CONSENT ARE ITEM NUMBER TWO, SB
939 BY SENATOR UMBERG AND S FILE
NUMBER FIVE, SB 1335 BY SENATOR
ARCHULETA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION
ON THE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND? THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR? SEEING NONE. MADAM
SECRETARY, ROLL CALL PLEASE FILE
ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 39939. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. FILE
ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB 1335. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. FONG
FONG, EYE TO EYE TO EYE.
ARAMBULA. Ã. ARAMBULA I. BURNER
I. BURNER I CHEN CHEN I SALLY I,
SALLY I IRWIN JACKSON. JACKSON I
LO MURATSUCHI QUIRK-SILVA. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THE CONSENT
CALENDAR IS SEVEN EYES. WE'LL
KEEP THE ROW OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS TO ADD ON. I THANK YOU,
SENATOR, FOR YOUR OPENING
COMMENTS, AND NOW WE'LL PASS IT
ON TO YOUR LEAD WITNESSES.
WELCOME. OH HI. IS THIS ON? YES,
YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR FONG
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MY NAME
IS KIMBERLY MULLIN. I AM A
REGISTERED NURSE WITH UNITED
NURSES ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA, UNION OF HEALTHCARE
PROFESSIONALS, AND I'M A
GRADUATE OF HARBOR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE IN LA, LOS ANGELES. AND
EUNUCH UQP IS A PROUD SPONSOR OF
SENATOR ROTH'S SB 895. AND IT'S
TIME TO MAKE GETTING AND
PURSUING A BSN MORE AFFORDABLE
AND ACCESSIBLE FOR NURSES, I'VE
BEEN A NURSE FOR 16 YEARS. I
GRADUATED WITH MY ADN FROM
HARBOR COLLEGE WHEN I WAS 29,
AND AT THAT TIME I EXPERIENCED
QUITE A BIT OF FINANCIAL
HARDSHIP AT 29, TRYING TO MANAGE
AN APARTMENT AND HAVE FOOD, BUT
NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL FULL TIME
AND, AND ALSO WORK IN BETWEEN
THAT, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW,
CONSIDERING MY AGING PARENTS
THAT I HAD TO SUPPORT. SO
NEEDLESS TO SAY, WHEN I GOT MY
ADN, PURSUING A BSN WAS JUST NOT
REALISTIC FOR ME AT THE TIME.
AND, ULTIMATELY, IT WAS DUE TO
THE LACK OF, THE LIMITED
ACCESSIBILITY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS
AND ALSO THE FINANCIAL LIKE THE
HIGH FINANCE COST, FINANCIAL
COST OF, OF, THE PRIVATE
INSTITUTIONS, SO I WENT STRAIGHT
TO WORK, AND TODAY I'M HERE TO
ADVOCATE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION
OF NURSES, I DON'T WANT THEM TO
HAVE TO FACE THE SAME DELAYS AND
HURDLES AND FINANCIAL BURDENS
THAT I EXPERIENCED. AND EVEN
WITH HIGH HOUSING COSTS AND THE
COST OF LIVING RIGHT NOW, I FEEL
LIKE IT'S CRUCIAL, TO NOT ALLOW
ADDITIONAL STUDENT DEBT. AND,
AND ALLOW NURSES TO FOCUS ON
WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. AND
THAT'S DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL
NURSING CARE TO OUR PATIENTS. SB
895 WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT
THE FUTURE OF NURSING AND SO
MANY OF MY NURSE COLLEAGUES
SHARE WITH ME THE AMOUNT OF
OBSTACLES AND HURDLES THAT THEY
HAD TO GO OVER JUST TO GET THEIR
BSN, AND WITH CSU'S AND UC'S
GRADUATING LESS THAN 30% ADN TO
BSN S, WE FEEL I FEEL THAT THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES HAVE THE
CAPACITY AND IS WELL EQUIPPED TO
MEET THIS DEMAND. SO, IN
CONCLUSION, I URGE YOU TO ASK A
NURSE. ASK A NURSE ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF GREATER
ACCESSIBILITY OF GETTING YOUR
BSN. AND WITH THAT, I THANK YOU
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELCOME. THANK YOU. HI THERE. MY
NAME IS DOCTOR TAMMY VAN HALL.
I'M THE DEAN OF NURSING AT
RIVERSIDE CITY COLLEGE AND I'M
APPRECIATIVE OF SENATOR ROTH.
AND I THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR AND
THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY
IN SUPPORT OF SB 895, THE
PHILOSOPHY OF OUR FACULTY AND
ADMINISTRATORS AT RCC IS THAT
ALL NURSING STUDENTS DESERVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EARN A BSN WITH
THE SUPPORT OF SENATOR ROTH, RCC
WAS ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITY
COLLEGES TO PARTNER WITH TWO
LOCAL CSUS TO OFFER AN ADN TO
BSN CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT
PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE GRATEFUL
FOR. THAT PARTNERSHIP. HOWEVER,
HALF OF MY STUDENTS THAT WE
ADMIT ARE STILL EXCLUDED FROM
PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THEY THEY
THEY EITHER DON'T MEET THE GPA
REQUIREMENTS OF THE CSUS OR THEY
HAVE WORK AND FAMILY
RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE THE
REALITY FOR SO MANY
NONTRADITIONAL COLLEGE STUDENTS
TODAY. WHAT RESULTS FOR THESE
STUDENTS, MANY OF WHOM BELONG TO
HISTORICALLY MINORITIZED GROUPS,
IS THEY EITHER DON'T COMPLETE
THEIR BACHELOR'S DEGREE AT ALL,
OR THEY SEEK THE AVAILABILITY
AND FLEXIBILITY THAT FOR-PROFIT
NURSING PROGRAMS OFFER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BENEFITS OF
OPEN ACCESS AND FLEXIBILITY COME
AT A HIGH FINANCIAL COST FOR
THEM. ACCREDITED COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE PERFECTLY
POSITIONED TO OFFER STUDENTS A
SEAMLESS PATHWAY TO BSN DEGREE,
ONE THAT IS ACCESSIBLE,
AFFORDABLE AND HIGH QUALITY
NATIONAL ACCREDITATION REQUIRES
US TO DEMONSTRATE HIGH STANDARDS
OF EXCELLENCE WITH REGARD TO THE
QUALIFICATIONS OF OUR FACULTY,
AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES, AND
THE ACHIEVEMENT OF KEY PROGRAM
OUTCOMES. AND LET ME ASSURE YOU
THAT OFFERING THE BSN AT SELECT
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WILL NOT
IMPACT THE AVAILABILITY OF
CLINICAL SPACE. TO SUGGEST
OTHERWISE IS A FALSE NARRATIVE.
THE CLINICAL COURSEWORK IN THE
BSN PROGRAM IS COMPLETED POST
LICENSURE, ALLOWING STUDENTS TO
FULFILL THEIR CLINICAL
REQUIREMENTS AND AN EVEN BROADER
VARIETY OF COMMUNITY SETTINGS
THAT ARE NOT TYPICALLY USED FOR
PRE-LICENSURE PROGRAMS. SO I'D
LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SHARE. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH, SENATOR ROBERT, FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND JUST
TO BE CLEAR, DO YOU CONTINUE TO
COMMIT WORKING WITH A SIMILAR
ASESORÍA TO RECONCILE THE POLICY
BETWEEN THE TWO BILLS, MR.
CHAIR? ABSOLUTELY. AS YOU KNOW,
I'VE MODIFIED I DRAFTED THE BILL
MYSELF AND I FURTHER DRAFTED
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL TO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT THE SPECIFIC
CONCERNS OF THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
AND THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THE
CENTRAL VALLEY IN TERMS OF
BUILDING NATIONALLY ACCREDITED
PROGRAMS AND ALSO PREFERENCING
CENTRAL VALLEY SCHOOLS. AND I AM
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ON HER BILL TO
MAKE SURE THAT AS HER BILL MOVES
FORWARD, THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS
BETWEEN THE TWO. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, SENATOR, I APPRECIATE
THAT. ARE THE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM?
PLEASE COME ON UP. PRISCILLA IS
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES IN SUPPORT. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS NATE SOLOVE, ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN MATEO COUNTY
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND
CHRISTY FOY, ON BEHALF OF
FRESENIUS MEDICAL CARE AND ALSO
CALIFORNIA KIDNEY CARE ALLIANCE
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
VANESSA GONZALEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION,
PROUD CO-SPONSOR OF THE BILL.
AND HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR
MEMBERS JANICE O'MALLEY, AFSCME
CALIFORNIA. PROUD CO-SPONSORS OF
THE BILL. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ANNA MATTHEWS, ON BEHALF
OF FACULTY ASSOCIATION OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ON ARCHIMEDES, ON BEHALF OF LOS
ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
AND SUPPORT GRACE COPLAND HERE
ON BEHALF OF PROVIDENCE HEALTH
AND SUPPORT KELLY BROOKS HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA. THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
AND THE COUNTY HEALTH EXECUTIVES
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA, ALL
HERE IN SUPPORT. KEISHA HUNT
HERE WITH NOSSAMAN IN SUPPORT
FROM CITRUS COLLEGE, MOUNT SAN
ANTONIO COLLEGE, NORTH COUNTY,
NORTH ORANGE COUNTY COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICT, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS MARK
MCDONALD ON BEHALF OF THE
ANTELOPE VALLEY CONTRA COSTA,
FOOTHILL, DEANZA, KERN, MOUNT
SAN JACINTO, SAN DIEGO,
SOUTHWESTERN, AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
COMMUNITY COLLEGE,
BACCALAUREATES THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. SABRINA MEANS, ON
BEHALF OF CO-SPONSORS EL CAMINO
COLLEGE AND THE LOS ANGELES
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, ALSO
IN SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF PASADENA
CITY COLLEGE, SANTA MONICA
COLLEGE, CERRITOS COLLEGE, ALLAN
HANCOCK COLLEGE, CUESTA COLLEGE,
SANTA BARBARA CITY COLLEGE, AND
ON BEHALF OF THE 19 COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT COMPRISE THE LOS
ANGELES REGIONAL CONSORTIUM IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, JORDAN
GERSHMAN ON BEHALF OF DAVITA, IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MISTER
CHAIR JUSTIN FANZO, ON BEHALF OF
MERCED COLLEGE AND THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF NURSE
ANESTHESIOLOGY IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON. COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IDEAS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB 895. HI. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CAROL GONZALEZ. ON
BEHALF OF LONG BEACH CITY
COLLEGE AND PROUD TO BE A
SUPPORTER. THANK YOU. HI, ALICE
MATA NOGUERA, ASSOCIATE DEAN OF
NURSING REPRESENTING GOLDEN WEST
COLLEGE IN HUNTINGTON BEACH,
CALIFORNIA. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF
SB 895. GOOD AFTERNOON, CASEY
ELLIOTT IN SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
RANCHO SANTIAGO COAST AND SOUTH
ORANGE COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. MARCHESE,
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF LOS
ANGELES IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE
GOLDMAN ON BEHALF OF THE STUDENT
SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE, IS PROUD TO CO-SPONSOR
CHAIR MEMBERS AWESOME WEBSTER
WITH W STRATEGIES ON BEHALF OF
THE ACADEMIC SENATE FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ASSOCIATION FOR
OCCUPATIONAL EDUCATION IN
SUPPORT DOCTOR ELIZABETH RILEY,
DEAN OF HEALTH OCCUPATIONS,
CERRITOS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT, IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I'M NANCY JAMES, I'M
THE DEAN OF NURSING AND ALLIED
HEALTH SCIENCES AT SIERRA
COLLEGE IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON, INMIGRACIÓN. ON
BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA, PROUD
CO-SPONSORS AND SUPPORT, THANK
YOU. KEITH CURRY, PRESIDENT CEO
OF COMPTON COLLEGE, COMPTON
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE
THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN
THE HEARING ROOM?
YOU WANT TO SWITCH OVER OR YOU
CAN STAY THERE. THAT'S FINE. WHY
DON'T WE GO MOVE DOWN? HOW MANY
ARE THERE JUST TO. WELCOME. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DOCTOR
RENEE PARSA, AND I SERVE AS THE
DEAN OF THE SCHOOL OF NURSING AT
AZUSA PACIFIC UNIVERSITY. ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES OF
NURSING. I SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
OF SENATE BILL 895. THIS BILL IS
IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE
RECENT LEGISLATION ALLOWING
COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO AWARD
BACHELOR'S DEGREES ONLY IN AREAS
WHERE THIS IS NOT DUPLICATIVE OF
EXISTING PROGRAMS IN THE CSU AND
UC SYSTEMS. CURRENTLY,
CALIFORNIA HAS A ROBUST MODEL
FOR CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT IN
INTERSEGMENTAL PARTNERSHIPS
BETWEEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
NURSING PROGRAMS, THE CSU, UC,
AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS. THESE
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS ENABLE
CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT IN ADRIN
PROGRAMS, WHILE TAKING BSN LEVEL
COURSEWORK, MANY OF THEM IN AN
ONLINE FORMAT. THESE PROGRAMS
HAVE AMPLE RESOURCES, QUALITY
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS, ROBUST
DISTANCE LEARNING MODALITIES,
AND EMPLOY QUALIFIED FACULTY TO
TEACH AT THE BACCALAUREATE LEVEL
. GRADUATION FROM THE BSN
PROGRAMS OCCURS WITHIN 2 TO 4
MONTHS OF ADN COMPLETION. THESE
ARE ESTABLISHED, ACCREDITED,
TIMELY COST EFFECTIVE AND
EFFICIENT WAYS TO INCREASE THE
NUMBER OF BSN PREPARED NURSES
ENTERING THE WORKFORCE. APU HAS
A VERY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP
WITH PASADENA CITY COLLEGE,
ENROLLING A DIVERSE STUDENT BODY
WITH UP TO 75% OF THEIR ADNS
PURSUING THIS PATHWAY, WE HAVE A
90% RETENTION FOR THESE STUDENTS
GRADUATING BSN PREPARED NURSES
WITHIN TWO YEARS. THESE STUDENTS
HAVE 100% SUCCESS ON NCLEX, RN
EXAMINATION AND 100% ARE
EMPLOYED IN CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS. WITHIN THREE
MONTHS OF GRADUATION, BSN
DEGREES AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES
WILL REQUIRE THE REQUISITE UPPER
DIVISION NURSING COURSEWORK, NEW
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS, AND ADDED
NURSING FACULTY, ALL OF WHICH
EXACERBATE PLACEMENT AND FACULTY
CHALLENGES FOR EXISTING
PROGRAMS. WITHOUT ADDING
ADDITIONAL NURSES TO THE
WORKFORCE. MOREOVER, COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WILL NEED TO SEEK
ADDITIONAL ACCREDITATION AND
MEET EXPANDED PROFESSIONAL
NURSING STANDARDS, ALL REQUIRING
ADDITIONAL FISCAL AND PERSONNEL
RESOURCES. IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE
ACCREDITATION PROCESS IS TIME
CONSUMING AND LENGTHY. THESE
PROGRAMS WILL NOT SIMPLY BE ABLE
TO FLIP A SWITCH AND START
EDUCATING BSN LEVEL NURSING
STUDENTS IMMEDIATELY, GIVEN THE
STATE'S NURSING WORKFORCE SHOULD
STABILIZE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
WE SHOULD FOCUS ON STRATEGIES
THAT MAXIMIZE THE USE OF
EXISTING PROGRAMS. IT IS A
PROVEN MODEL THAT WORKS AT OUR
INSTITUTIONS AS WELL AS OUR
PUBLIC COUNTERPARTS. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR
FONG AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I AM RAMONA TARR, THE
DIRECTOR OF HEALTH CARE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR HERE TO
PRESENT THE SYSTEM'S POSITION ON
SENATE BILL 895. WHILE THE CSU
IS DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF
SENATOR ROTH'S ATTEMPT TO
PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THE
STATE'S BSN NURSING WORKFORCE
CHALLENGES, THE CSU BELIEVES
THAT SB 895 WILL NOT ACCOMPLISH
ITS INTENDED GOALS. SB 895 WILL
NOT CREATE ADDITIONAL NURSES DUE
TO THE LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS AND A STRICT
REGULATIONS BY THE STATE BOARD
OF REGISTERED NURSING. THESE
CHALLENGES ARE NOT UNIQUE TO THE
CSU AND WOULD EQUALLY AFFECT THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
TO BE CLEAR, THE CSU DOES NOT
HAVE A WAITING LIST IN OUR
ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE TO BACHELOR'S
DEGREES. NURSING PROGRAMS. EACH
OF OUR 20 NURSING PROGRAMS
ACCEPT ALL ELIGIBLE STUDENTS
APPLYING TO THE BSN PROGRAMS. IN
OTHER WORDS, SB 895 DOES NOT ADD
MORE BSN NURSES, BUT INSTEAD
WILL SIPHON OFF THE STUDENTS
THAT WOULD MATRICULATE FROM THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ASSOCIATE
DEGREE PROGRAMS THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE COME TO A CSU NURSING
DEGREE PROGRAM. THE CSU HAS
INVESTED RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE
TO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS
SB 895 INTENDED GOALS THROUGH
ONLINE PROGRAMS, WHICH CAN SERVE
RURAL AND NONTRADITIONAL
STUDENTS, AND PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAMS. THESE PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAMS INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY
FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS
TO ENTER THE CSU NURSING DEGREE
PROGRAMS AND ASSIST STUDENTS IN
COMPLETING AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE
IN NURSING AND A BACCALAUREATE
DEGREE IN NURSING AND AN
ACCELERATED RATE. CSU NURSING
PROGRAMS ARE ABLE TO REDUCE THE
TIME 2 DEGREES TO COMPLETION
FROM 4 TO 6 YEARS TO 3 TO 5
YEARS. THESE PROGRAMS ARE COST
EFFECTIVE, LESS RESOURCE
INTENSIVE, AND PROVIDE GREAT
BENEFITS TO BOTH SEGMENTS AND
THEIR STUDENTS. THROUGH
STREAMLINING OF CURRICULUM
ASSISTING COMMUNITY COLLEGES
ACHIEVE NATIONAL ACCREDITATION.
CREATING CLINICAL COORDINATION.
PROVIDING A FASTER PATH TO
GRADUATION, AND BUILT IN
FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS.
CURRENTLY, 13 CSU PROGRAM
NURSING PROGRAMS HAVE
PARTNERSHIPS WITH OVER 35
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WITH SEVERAL
OTHER UPCOMING PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAMS PENDING. AS NOTED IN
THE ANALYSIS, THE EFFECTIVENESS
OF PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS IS
REINFORCED BY SB 155. THE HIGHER
EDUCATION BUDGET TRAILER BILL,
WHICH CREATES THE REBUILDING
NURSING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT
PROGRAM, WHICH PRIORITIZES NEW
GRANTS AND MONIES FOR
PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THE UCS
AND CSUS, AS WELL AS INDEPENDENT
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES FOR
NURSING DEGREES AT THE
BACCALAUREATE LEVEL. THE CSU IS
RENOWNED FOR ITS EXCELLENT
QUALITY IN NURSING EDUCATION
PROGRAMS IN RESPECT TO NATIONAL
ACCREDITATION STATUS, ON TIME
COMPLETION RATE, GRADUATION
RATES, LICENSURE PASS RATES, AS
WELL AS IS KNOWN FOR ITS AS A
MODEL FOR ROBUST NURSING
EDUCATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
ENHANCES ACCESS AND OVERCOMES
BARRIERS FACED BY LOCATION BOUND
AND RURAL STUDENTS. THANK YOU.
YOU CAN WRAP UP, PLEASE, SIR.
IT'S BEEN TWO MINUTES. OH SORRY.
GO AHEAD. YOU'RE GONNA WRAP UP
YOUR THOUGHTS ESTABLISHING
BACHELOR DEGREE NURSING PROGRAMS
IS NOT EASY, EFFICIENT OR
INEXPENSIVE. WHAT THE CSU HAS
ACCOMPLISHED AS A RESULT OF
DECADES OF COMMITMENT AND
EXPERTISE, UNIQUE ONLY TO THE
CSU BACHELOR DEGREE. NURSING
PROGRAMS ARE RESOURCE INTENSIVE
INITIATIVES. THANK YOU SIR.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM?
WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND.
SECOND. WITNESSES, OPPOSITION,
PLEASE, STEP UP TO THE MIC AND
STATE YOUR NAME AND. HELLO I'M
PENNY WEISSMULLER. I'M DIRECTOR
OF THE SCHOOL OF NURSING AT CAL
STATE FULLERTON. WE HAVE A 50
YEAR HISTORY OF PROVIDING
ASSOCIATE DEGREE NURSES AND
ASSOCIATE DEGREE STUDENTS. A
PATHWAY TO THE BACCALAUREATE. WE
WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND OUR
SYSTEM. WE EVERYONE COULD JUST
STATE THEIR I APOLOGIZE,
EVERYONE CAN STATE THEIR NAME
AND THE POSITION. THANK YOU.
PLEASE THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME
IS LISA RAUSCH. I'M THE DIRECTOR
OF THE VALLEY FOUNDATION SCHOOL
OF NURSING AT SAN JOSE STATE
UNIVERSITY, I AM OPPOSED. RON
NH█P, DIRECTOR OF SCHOOL OF
NURSING, CAL STATE, IN DOMINGUEZ
HILLS, OPPOSED. HI. ELAINE
MUSSELMAN, DIRECTOR OF NURSING
AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE
UNIVERSITY, OPPOSED. HELLO, I'M
DOCTOR REBECCA CHILD, THE
PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT CSU
NORTHRIDGE. WE HAVE UNLIMITED
SPOTS IN OUR AD RN TO BSN
PROGRAM, AND WE ARE OPPOSED.
HELLO. CELESTINA BARBOSA LEIKER,
DEAN OF THE COLLEGE OF HEALTH
AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT AT CAL
STATE UNIVERSITY, FULLERTON.
OPPOSE ELIZABETH WADE, DEAN OF
THE COLLEGE OF SCIENCE,
TECHNOLOGY AND BUSINESS, WHICH
INCLUDES NURSING A POST DAVE
HASSENZAHL, DEAN OF THE COLLEGE
OF NATURAL SCIENCES AT
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,
CHICO, WHICH INCLUDES THE SCHOOL
OF NURSING, OPPOSED. GOOD
AFTERNOON, ALEX GRES. THE
ASSOCIATION OF INDEPENDENT
CALIFORNIA COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES, ON BEHALF OF OUR
APPROXIMATELY TWO DOZEN NURSING
PROGRAMS HERE IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MICHELLE BEST, DEAN FOR THE
COLLEGE OF HEALTH AND HUMAN
DEVELOPMENT AT CAL STATE
NORTHRIDGE, WHICH INCLUDES THE
DEPARTMENT OF NURSING. WE OPPOSE
CHRISTINE ISAACSON, SENATOR FROM
THE ACADEMIC SENATE, FROM THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM, REPRESENTING ALL 23 CSU
CAMPUSES. WE ARE STRONGLY
OPPOSED. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MICHELLE WILLARD,
CHIEF OF EXTERNAL RELATIONS FOR
SACRAMENTO STATE. AND WE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
TANYA ALTMAN, I'M THE CHAIR OF
THE SACRAMENTO STATE SCHOOL OF
NURSING, AND I'M OPPOSED. HèA
MITCHELL BROWN, I'M THE DIRECTOR
OF THE SCHOOL OF NURSING,
CALIFORNIA STATE, CHICO, AND I
OPPOSE. GOOD AFTERNOON. ANDREANA
CLAY. I'M THE CURRENT DEAN OF
THE COLLEGE OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL
SCIENCES AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE,
WHICH INCLUDES A SCHOOL OF
NURSING. AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
I'M DOCTOR MARLA SECHREST FROM
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY,
STANISLAUS, IN THE RURAL
COMMUNITY. AND WE OPPOSE. HI.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS
PHYLLIS SALOPEK. I'M ASSISTANT
DIRECTOR AT CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY, CHICO SCHOOL OF
NURSING, AND I OPPOSE. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I'M DOCTOR MONICA
LOUNSBURY. I'M THE DEAN OF THE
COLLEGE OF HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES AT LONG BEACH STATE
UNIVERSITY, AND WE OPPOSE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE TWEENERS
IN A HEARING ROOM? GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
CHEN CHASE WITH THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA. WE DO NOT HAVE A
POSITION ON SB 895, AND WE
REALLY APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
WORK IN TRYING TO ADDRESS A
WORKFORCE SHORTAGE. BUT WE DO
HAVE AN OVERALL CONCERN ABOUT
ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE MOVING
FORWARD WITH ALLOWING THE
COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES TO OFFER A DUPLICATIVE
DEGREE THAT IS ALREADY OFFERED
AT THE CSU AND UC. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COLLEAGUES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SIMILAR. SALLY FOLLOWED BY SARAH
MURATSUCHI, FOLLOWED BY SUMMER
BERNER. SUMMER S¼. OKAY, SO I'VE
HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND
THEY CAN'T BOTH BE RIGHT. SO
I'VE HEARD THAT THE REASON THERE
IS A SHORTAGE OF NURSING PROGRAM
OR NURSES IS BECAUSE OF THE LACK
OF CLINICAL PLACEMENTS. DO YOU
GUYS DISAGREE WITH THAT AND WHY
WOULD THAT CHANGE IF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WERE ABLE TO
OFFER THE SAME PROGRAM? I
ADDRESS SENATOR THROUGH THE
CHAIR. THE BILL DOES NOT ADD ANY
ADDITIONAL NURSES ARE INS TO THE
SYSTEM. THE PROBLEM IS THAT
BECAUSE OF A DECADE OR MORE AGO,
MORE THAN THAT, I THINK MAYBE
1990, THE CREDENTIALING
ORGANIZATIONS THAT CREDENTIAL
HEALTH CARE FACILITIES, DECIDED
THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE
HEALTH CARE FACILITIES TO
INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF
BACHELOR'S DEGREE NURSES
EMPLOYED BY THEM. I DON'T KNOW
WHY I DON'T NECESSARILY ABIDE BY
THE RATIONALE THAT I'VE READ,
BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE
STANDARD THAT SEEMS TO BE
FLOATING AROUND. AND IT'S 80%
NOW. WE'RE NOT NEAR THAT YET,
BUT THERE'S BEEN A PUSH EVER
SINCE TO FOR HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES TO PREFER. AND IN
SOME CASES INSIST ON BACHELOR'S
DEGREE APPLICANTS FOR HIRE IN
THEIR FACILITIES. IT IS
PARTICULARLY ACUTE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA WITH REGARD TO OUR
CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS AND WITH
REGARD TO OUR DISTRICT
HOSPITALS, SOME OF THEM THE
CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS IN
PARTICULAR, PREFER EVEN AT THE
AT THE UNDERGRADUATE NURSE
STUDENT LEVEL TO, TO PREFER BSN
STUDENTS CANDIDATES FOR THEIR
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS BEFORE
THEY'RE EVEN GRADUATED IN OUR
HANDS. SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH
THE NEED FOR INCREASED
BACHELOR'S DEGREE NURSES IN THE
PROGRAM? YOU'VE EITHER GOT TO
EXPAND OUR PUBLIC, OUR CSU
PROGRAMS, AND OF COURSE, OUR
PRIVATE SERVER EAGER TO EXPAND.
IF THE BOARD OF REGISTERED
NURSING ALLOWS THEM TO DO SO.
BUT ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WE HAVE
A BUDGET PROBLEM, REQUIRES BRICK
AND MORTAR. IT REQUIRES
ADDITIONAL FACULTY MEMBERS TO
EXPAND. BECAUSE REMEMBER, AT THE
CSU LEVEL, YOU'RE TRAINING BOTH
THE CLINICAL NURSE PIECE AND THE
EXTRA HUMANITIES AND MANAGEMENT
COURSES NECESSARY TO GET TO THE
BACHELOR'S DEGREE. SO ONE OF THE
SOLUTIONS THAT WE DECIDED TO TRY
WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM IS YOU
HAVE AN UNDERUTILIZED PROGRAM
HERE IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
WHERE THEY ARE TRAINING NURSES.
THERE, THEY RECEIVE AN ASSOCIATE
DEGREE WHEN THEY FINISH, BUT
THEY THEY ATTAIN ALL OF THEIR
CLINICAL TRAINING, ALL OF THEIR
CLINICAL PLACEMENT WORK IS DONE
AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEVEL.
THEY RECEIVE THEIR ASSOCIATE
DEGREE, THEY TAKE THE NCLEX,
WHICH IS THE NATIONAL NURSING
EXAM, AND THEY APPLY TO THE
STATE AND GET AN RN LICENSE. AND
THEN THE QUESTION IS WE CAN SEND
THE ADNS OUT TO WORK OR IN A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEVEL IN A
PILOT PROGRAM, WE CAN TRY AND
ALLOW THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO
PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL
HUMANITIES COURSES AND A NURSE
MANAGEMENT COURSE. AND I THINK
THERE'S A COMMUNITY HEALTH
COURSE NECESSARY TO GET THE
EXTRA HOURS TO QUALIFY FOR A
BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN
NURSING. THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE
ACCREDITED. THERE'S SOME
ADDITIONAL CURRICULUM. WHY CAN'T
THEY DO THAT AT A CSU? IN MANY
CASES, THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE PLACE
BOUND. THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF
SICK PARENTS, SICK KIDS, SICK
AUNTS, UNCLES THEY REQUIRED TO
STAY CLOSE TO HOME. IN SOME
CASES, THEY DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY, WHICH IS WHY THEY GO TO A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO BEGIN WITH,
BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY FEES AND
THEY NEED TO STAY AT A COMMUNITY
COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THE FEE
STRUCTURE TO TAKE CARE OF THE
PARENTS AND THE KIDS. AND THE
REASON THAT, REMEMBER, WHEN YOU
GO TO A CSU, YOU HAVE TO MEET
THE GPA REQUIREMENTS AND YOU
HAVE TO PAY THE TUITION. WE
FACILITATED IN MY OFFICE THE
FIRST, I THINK IT'S THE FIRST
PIPELINE PROGRAM IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WITH CSU SAN
BERNARDINO FULLERTON'S YEAR.
FULLERTON WE HAD THESE. WE HAD
THE EXECUTIVE VICE CHANCELLOR OF
CSU IN THE ROOM WITH THE
PROVOST. WE HAD THE PRESIDENTS
AND PROVOSTS OF SAN BERNARDINO
AND FULLERTON AND OF COURSE, THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO PUT
TOGETHER A PIPELINE PROGRAM
ASSEMBLY MEMBER THAT CURRENTLY
EXISTS AND IS UNDER UTILIZED
BECAUSE THE STUDENTS AT
RIVERSIDE CITY COLLEGE EITHER
DON'T MEET THE GPA, CAN'T PAY
THE TUITION, OR CAN'T TAKE THE
TIME TO GO TO FULLERTON OR SAN
BERNARDINO WHEN THEY NEED TO DO
SO. WELL, IF THEY DON'T MEET THE
GPA, I DON'T WANT THEM RUNNING A
HOSPITAL. SO LET'S PUT THAT
ASIDE. THE OTHER ISSUE. WELL
DON'T. YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW. JUST SAY I
DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT I THINK I
THINK THE QUESTION HERE IS WHAT
IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND AN
ASSOCIATE DEGREE? I SAID ABOUT
30 HOURS. WELL, I DON'T IT
SOUNDS IT SOUNDS TO ME WITH ALL
RESPECT, THAT WE JUST WANT TO
HAVE A SHORTCUT TO GET A BN,
JUST SO WE SAY, WE HAVE ONE
WITHOUT GOING THROUGH WHAT I
THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE
COURSEWORK AND ACADEMIC
RHETORIC. I WILL SAY FROM WHAT I
HEARD, THE CSU'S, I DON'T KNOW
IF THEY CHALLENGED. THEY SAID
THEY HAVE UNLIMITED SPOTS. THEY
HAVE HYBRID PROGRAMS ONLINE AND
IN PERSON. AND MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT
MADE WITH THE LEGISLATURE THREE
YEARS AGO THAT THEY WOULD NOT
COME BACK ASKING FOR BACHELOR
DEGREE PROGRAMS UNLESS THEY WERE
NOT DUPLICATIVE OF SOMETHING
THAT THE CSU'S ALREADY HAVE. SO
I GUESS WHERE I LAND AND I HEAR
YOU, SENATOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR
PERSPECTIVE. AND I KNOW YOU ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT RIVERSIDE,
ABOUT 12 YEARS. PASSIONATE.
YEAH. 12 YEARS. AND I AND I GET
THAT. BUT FOR ME, IT'S A
PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION OF WHAT
IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND A CSU?
I'LL ADMIT, I'M BIAS. I WENT TO
CAL POLY. I BUSH, SO I DO HAVE
SOME BIAS THERE, BUT I DO THINK
THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE TWO. AND UNLESS
THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE
IDENTIFIED, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS
IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A
PROBLEM. SO I'M GOING TO
RESPECTFULLY HAVE TO, OPPOSE IT
TODAY, BUT I'LL, YIELD TO MY
COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MR. SEELEY. WE HAVE MR.
MURATSUCHI, FOLLOWED BY MISS
BERNER, FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR
ARAMBULA. SIMILAR MURATSUCHI.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR
ROTH, WE HAD A SIMILAR
DISCUSSION ON, ON THIS GENERAL
SUBJECT MATTER WITH SOME
MEMBERS. SAUDIA'S, BILL, AND SO,
I DID I HEARD, YOU KNOW, THE
ARGUMENTS ABOUT, HOW, COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ALLOWING FOR BACHELORS
OF SCIENCE DEGREES IN NURSING
WOULD EXPAND ACCESS TO, TO
PEOPLE THAT, THERE WOULD BE MORE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT WOULD BE
MORE ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS. AND
ESPECIALLY IN, IN, AREAS OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT, DO NOT
HAVE A CAL STATE UNIVERSITY,
CLOSE BY. WE ALSO HEARD THE
ARGUMENT ABOUT, HOW WITH THE,
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROMISE
PROGRAMS THAT THAT WOULD HELP,
MAKE, GETTING A BACHELOR'S
DEGREE IN AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE
, AGAIN, MORE ACCESSIBLE. BY BY
MAKING IT MORE AFFORDABLE, AND
SO I, I'M JUST HEARING ALL THESE
ARGUMENTS OR, YOU KNOW,
ARGUMENTS THAT I, THAT I'VE
FOUND, PERSUASIVE, IN SUPPORT OF
EXPANDING ACCESS, I WANTED TO
ASK OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY. I
MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I
HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR OUR
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, AND
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THIS
HISTORY WHERE IT SEEMS KIND OF
LIKE A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND IT'S
MY IMPRESSION IS THAT YOU'RE
JUST YOU KNOW, THE CAL STATE
UNIVERSITIES ARE PRIMARILY
CONCERNED THAT WE'RE JUST
SLIDING FURTHER DOWN THAT
SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHICH, YOU KNOW,
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, I COULD
UNDERSTAND, THAT THAT, YOU KNOW,
MAY MAY GO AGAINST THE ORIGINAL
DESIGN OF THE MASTER PLAN, BUT,
BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE A NURSING SHORTAGE. THE
EMPLOYERS ARE PREFERRING THOSE
WITH BACHELORS IN NURSING. AND
THIS IS PROVIDING EXPANDING
ACCESS. AND SO FROM, YOU KNOW, A
POLICY MAKERS PERSPECTIVE, IT'S
LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO WE GO WITH
EXPANDING ACCESS OR DO WE GO
WITH YOU KNOW, RESPECTING THE
INTEGRITY OF, OF THIS PLAN THAT
PERHAPS NEEDS OUTDATING AND I ON
THE SIDE OF ACCESS, BUT I WANT
TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
RESPOND. HELP ME OUT HERE. YEAH.
I APPRECIATE THAT. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER. I WOULD LIKE THE
COMMITTEE TO ALSO REFER TO SOME
OF THE BURNS WORKFORCE REPORTING
THAT SAYS THE NURSING WORKFORCE
AT THE BSN LEVEL WILL BE MET BY
2027 WITHOUT US DOING ANYTHING
ADDITIONAL. SO I DO WANT TO KEEP
THAT IN MIND. ADDITIONALLY, IN
TERMS OF THE SLIPPERY SLOPE
THAT'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT, I DO
ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WHEN
IT CAME TO THE CSU AND GETTING
AUTHORIZATION FOR DOCTORAL
DEGREES, THIS WAS DONE IN
COORDINATION WITH THE UCS AND
WITH THE EXPLICIT STATEMENT TO
STATE THAT THE CSU SHALL NOT
DUPLICATE ACADEMIC PROGRAMS
OFFERED AT THE UCS. AND THIS WAS
SOMETHING THAT, UNLIKE THIS
BILL, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
DEPARTURE FROM THAT, I THINK
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WHERE
IT WAS ADDRESSING AN ANALYSIS IN
REGARDS TO THE FEES OR COST OF
ATTENDANCE AT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WITH EDUCATION CODE,
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE
AUTHORIZED TO CHARGE AS MUCH AS
A CSU BACHELOR'S DEGREE PROGRAM,
WHICH MEANS IF YOU CAN LOOK AT
SOME DENTAL HYGIENE PROGRAMS AT
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, THERE
ARE UPWARDS OF 15 TO $20,000.
THERE'S NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE
IN THAT REGARD FOR THESE
BACHELOR'S DEGREE PROGRAMS AT
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. I THINK
WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON AND
OUR PRIMARY REASON FOR
OPPOSITION, IS THAT WE WANT TO
DO WHAT'S BEST AND MOST
EQUITABLE FOR NURSING EDUCATION
WITH THAT WHICH IS ADDRESSING
THE INFRASTRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT
ARE AT PLAY. CLINICAL PLACEMENTS
ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE
BECAUSE THAT'S THE BOTTLENECK,
PERIOD. I THINK WHERE WE ARE TO
ADDRESS THOSE CLINICAL
PLACEMENTS AND HAVE MORE
COLLABORATION, I THINK IT'S
GOING TO BENEFIT STUDENTS AS A
WHOLE. WE NEED TO BE MORE
MINDFUL IN REGARDS TO OUR STATE
RESOURCES, AND HOW ARE WE GOING
TO INVEST IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE
AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT
STUDENTS. AND I THINK THE
QUICKEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO
SUPPORT THESE PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAMS, WHICH CAN TAKE LESS
THAN A YEAR TO ESTABLISH WHERE A
BACHELOR'S DEGREE ACCREDITATION
AT A COMMUNITY, COLLEGES CAN
TAKE YEARS AND WILL ALSO TAKE
YEARS TO SEE RESULTS. BY THE
TIME A 2027 HITS, THE NURSING
NEED IS ALREADY MET. SO IT'S
ABOUT ALSO WHAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR.
MURATSUCHI Ã SUMMER BERNARD
FOLLOWED BY SUMMER ARAMBULA
FOLLOWED BY SUMMER JACKSON,
SUMMER BERNER. SO THIS IS A VERY
INTERESTING THING. MY DAD
ACTUALLY WAS A PROFESSOR AT
BOTH. AZUSA PACIFIC AND RCC, AND
I WAS AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT
RCC. I CURRENTLY REPRESENT
COASTAL SAN DIEGO AND SENATOR
ROTH REPRESENTS MY MOTHER. SO
YOU DO A GOOD JOB REPRESENTING
MY MOTHER. BUT WE HAVE A
BIOMANUFACTURING DEGREE AT
MIRACOSTA AND IT IS A GAME
CHANGER FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE WHAT
THE SENATOR WAS SAYING, I JUST
SAY THIS TO MY COLLEAGUES, THE
SENATOR IS SAYING IS REAL PEOPLE
WHO GO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
EVEN SAN MARCOS, IS TOO FAR FOR
THEM TO GO WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING
AT DAYCARE, CARING FOR THE
ELDERLY, CARING FOR THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS OR THEIR NEIGHBORS.
PEOPLE HAVE COMPLEX LIVES WHO
END UP AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NURSES AREN'T
ACTUALLY WHEN THEY START
NURSING, MAKING A LOT OF MONEY.
AND SO WHEN WE LOWER THE COST,
WHICH THIS WILL LOWER THE COST
AND LOWER BARRIERS, I THINK TO
SAY THAT THE CSU'S CAN PICK UP
ALL THE SLACK, BECAUSE I DO KNOW
WHAT YOU KNOW, STUDENTS PAY AT
AZUSA PACIFIC IS HIGHER THAN
WHAT THEY WOULD PAY IF THEY WENT
TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES. MY FIRST
DAY IN THE ASSEMBLY, I THINK,
WAS THE DAY I WAS SWARMING IN,
IN 2018, A FOR PROFIT UNIVERSITY
WHO HAD A NURSING PROGRAM CLOSED
THEIR DOORS. I DON'T EVEN THINK
I HAVE MY KEYS TO MY DISTRICT
OFFICE THAT DAY. WE HAVE A
DEMAND FOR NURSING THAT WE SEE
AND THE DEMAND IS NOT GOING TO
GO AWAY. SO IT WAS GREAT THAT
THEY HAVE A THING THAT IN 2027
THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT. I
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN
DOING THIS PILOT. I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANY HARM IN MAKING
SEEING IF IT WORKS, SEEING IF WE
CAN GET THE AFFORDABILITY DOWN,
SEEING IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING
THAT MAKES PEOPLE'S TRAIN UP AN
ENTIRE WORKFORCE IN A WAY THAT
WORKS FOR REAL CALIFORNIANS. SO
WITH THAT, THAT'S WHY I THINK I
MOVED. OR SECOND, THE BILL, I'M
NOT SURE. I THINK I MOVED IT.
YOU MADE THE MOTION. OH, THERE
YOU GO. I MOVED THE BILL BECAUSE
I THINK THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT. AND THERE ARE ALL
SORTS OF PLACES IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE A CSU OR A OR A MORE
EXPENSIVE PRIVATE UNIVERSITY IS
VERY FAR AWAY AND PROHIBITIVE.
AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY PLACES
WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE NURSES
BEING BUILT UP IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU, SENATOR
BERNER. SUMMER ARAMBULA. THANK
YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M FIRST GOING
TO APPRECIATE SENATOR ROTH FOR
YOUR WORK IN THIS SPACE AND YOUR
CONTINUED ADVOCACY. IT'S BEEN
MONUMENTAL AND REALLY DOES
REQUIRE US TO START THE
CONVERSATION IN THAT WAY. I DO
WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE
PARTNERSHIPS. I'M TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND THE ABILITY FOR US TO
HAVE CSU'S WORK COLLABORATIVELY
WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND
WHAT I HEARD THROUGH YOUR
INITIAL ANSWER WAS THE
REQUIREMENT FOR US TO BOTH SPEND
MONEY AND TO REQUIRE BRICK AND
MORTAR TO INCREASE CAPACITY. BUT
WE HEARD FROM THE OPPOSITION,
THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ONLINE.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM
YOU, WOULD THAT HELP TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE BEING PLACE BOUND?
WOULD THAT HELP TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THE MONETARY REQUIREMENTS OR
THE BRICK AND MORTAR
REQUIREMENTS? AND WHY ARE WE NOT
LOOKING TOWARDS ONLINE EDUCATION
AS PART OF THIS SOLUTION? SINCE
PARTNERSHIPS HAVE SHOWN THAT TO
BE A SUCCESSFUL MODEL? WELL,
FIRST LET ME SAY, AS I
INDICATED, WE ACTUALLY STARTED
THE PROCESS BY FACILITATING THE
FIRST PIPELINE PROGRAM AT RCC
WITH FULLERTON. CSU FULLERTON,
CSU SAN BERNARDINO. MY
RECOLLECTION IS THERE ARE ABOUT
50 STUDENTS ATTENDING EACH OF
THOSE. I CAN STAND TO BE
CORRECTED BECAUSE I HAVE THE
DEAN WITH ME, THE PROGRAM
OBVIOUSLY HAS CAPACITY FOR MORE,
BUT IT'S THE STUDENTS CHOICE,
NUMBER ONE, AND OF COURSE, THEY
DO HAVE TO MEET THE GPA
REQUIREMENTS TO FOR ADMISSION TO
CSU. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO
THE TUITION ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S
ONLINE OR IN THE CLASSROOM, THAT
FOR SOME IS A PROBLEM, THE OTHER
THING I WOULD SAY WITH RESPECT
TO ONLINE AND I'M A FAN OF
ONLINE, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE
USED WHERE APPROPRIATE EVERY,
EVERY WAY POSSIBLE IS THERE'S
SOME PLACES THERE'S A BANDWIDTH
ISSUE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU
LIVE AND WHETHER YOU HAVE
APPROPRIATE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT
TO EVEN DO THAT. SO THE, THE,
THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT ATTENDS OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM, THE
COLLEGES, DEPENDING ON WHERE
THEY ARE AND WHERE THE COLLEGE
IS, THERE COULD BE CHALLENGES IN
THAT REGARD TO WHETHER IT'S IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA OR MAYBE
EVEN THE CENTRAL VALLEY OR IN
EASTERN RIVERSIDE COUNTY, FOR
THAT MATTER, OR SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY. SO I MY APPROACH TO THIS
IS WE NEED TO USE ALL THE TOOLS
IN THE TOOL CHEST. AND CONTRARY
TO MY FRIEND ON THE RIGHT, THE
STUDIES ARE CERTAINLY NOT
DEFINITIVE WITH RESPECT TO THE
NURSING SHORTAGE. AND WHILE WE
MAY, ATTAIN PARITY OR GET CLOSE
TO IT WITH REGISTERED NURSES IN
GENERAL, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE
CASE WITH BACHELOR'S DEGREE
NURSES. AND REMEMBER, WE TALK
ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH FACULTY IN OUR
NURSING SCHOOLS. WELL, IN ORDER
TO GET A FACULTY MEMBER, THE
FACULTY MEMBER HAS TO HAVE START
WITH A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE
DEGREE, PROBABLY NEEDS TO GET A
MASTER'S AND THEN NEEDS TO GET A
DOCTORATE TO TEACH IN OUR
NURSING SCHOOLS. SO SOMEHOW WE
HAVE TO EXPAND THE PIPELINE OF
THESE FOLKS WHO CAN MOVE FROM
THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE TO THE
MASTER'S DEGREE TO THE DOCTORATE
DEGREE, IF WE CAN GET THEM TO
GET THERE IN ORDER TO HELP SOLVE
OUR PROBLEM. I HOPE I ANSWERED
THAT QUESTION. SO I'M I THINK WE
SHOULD HAVE MORE PIPELINE
PROGRAMS. IN FACT, THE FOLKS AT
RIVERSIDE CITY COLLEGE, TOGETHER
WITH THE FOLKS AT THE CSU'S IN
FULLERTON AND SAN BERNARDINO,
PUBLISHED A PEER REVIEWED, PIECE
THAT THEY TOOK AROUND TO SPEAK
AT CONFERENCES ABOUT THE
PIPELINE PROGRAM. THEY SPOKE TO
OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES AT
CONFERENCES HERE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THEY OFFERED THEIR
THEIR THEY HAD IT REQUIRED A
STANDARDIZED CURRICULUM, DUAL
CREDENTIALING, DUAL ENROLLMENT
POLICIES. THEY OFFERED THE
ENTIRE PACKAGE TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES UP AND DOWN THE STATE
TO, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE
STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, TO
ENCOURAGE THESE PIPELINE
PROGRAMS AND THE DEVELOPMENT AT
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND CSU'S
AROUND THE STATE. SO I'M A BIG
BELIEVER IN THAT. I THINK THERE
ARE LIMITATIONS, OBVIOUSLY,
BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE STUDENTS
TO FILL UP HOURS. AND I THINK WE
NEED TO USE ALL THE TOOLS IN THE
TOOL CHEST TO SOLVE THIS BSN
BACHELOR'S DEGREE PROBLEM. TO
THE EXTENT IT EXISTS, I MAY ASK
WHAT YOU BELIEVE, THE EFFECT
WILL BE ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE PUTTING OUR
THUMB ON THE SCALE WITH THE
EFFORT THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY?
BECAUSE I'LL JUST SHARE LOCALLY,
WE HAVE FRESNO STATE AND FRESNO
CITY COLLEGE WHO HAVE RECEIVED
FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP TO
BRIDGE AND TO CREATE THAT
PARTNERSHIPS. AND THOSE
CONVERSATIONS HAVE GONE AWAY IN
LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE
LEGISLATIVE EFFORT WE'VE BEEN
LEADING. AND, THINK IT I
QUESTION WHETHER IT UNDERMINES
THAT REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE EFFORT WE HAVE. AND
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT
YOU THINK THE EFFECT WOULD BE.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET
MORE PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE OF THE
EFFORT, OR DO WE FEEL THAT YOUR
INITIAL EFFORT AT PARTNERSHIPS
NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITH THE
CURRENT? WELL, REMEMBER, THIS IS
A PILOT PROGRAM AND IT'S VERY
LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER
OF PARTICIPANTS IN EACH CLASS.
SO IT'S A RATHER SMALL NUMBER OF
PEOPLE. ANY PLACE THAT IT MAY
THAT THE CHANCELLOR MAY PICK TO
HAVE IT OPERATE. SO THERE'S THAT
OTHER. THE OTHER PIECE IS I
THINK STUDENTS ARE PERCEPTIVE
AND THEY KNOW THE MARKETPLACE,
I'M NOT IN THE HEALTH CARE
BUSINESS, BUT I'VE BEEN
ASSOCIATED WITH THEM MOST OF MY
LIFE, AS YOU KNOW, AND I THINK
STUDENTS WILL GO TO WHAT IS
PERCEIVED TO BE THE BEST SCHOOL
THEY CAN GET INTO. AND IF THEY
CAN, IF THEY CAN GET INTO A CSU
OR THEY CAN GET INTO A UC AND
THEY CAN PAY FOR IT, OR HAVE
SOMEBODY PAY FOR IT OR GET
FINANCIAL AID TO GET THERE, THEY
WILL GET THERE. AND I THINK IT'S
THE STUDENTS THAT ARE PLACE
BOUND FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS,
EITHER MONEY OR FAMILY OR
WHATEVER. THAT OR WORK WHERE
THEY NEED TO STAY CLOSE TO HOME.
AND THAT CLOSE TO HOME IS THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT THEY CAN
WALK TO OR BIKE TO. WE NEED TO
USE ALL THE TOOLS AND THE TOOL
CHEST AND NOT AND ALLOW THEM TO
MOVE FORWARD. AND IF THE
PIPELINE PROGRAM WORKS, BECAUSE
IF THEY ARE IN THE PIPELINE
PROGRAM WITH DUAL CREDENTIALING
AND DUAL ENROLLMENT, THEY'RE
GOING TO GET THEIR DEGREE FROM A
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY. AND
IF YOU WANT A DEGREE FROM A
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY AND
CAN DO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET
IT. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR
QUESTION. I WOULD BE VERY
DISAPPOINTED IF THIS PILOT
EFFORT, WHICH ISN'T ASSUMING THE
BILL PASSES, ISN'T GUARANTEED TO
LAST BECAUSE THIS IS A TEST, TO
SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
HANDLE THIS, I WOULD BE VERY
DISAPPOINTED IF IT PUT A DAMPER
ON ANY PIPELINE PROGRAM ANYWHERE
IN THE STATE. I MEAN, WE DEVOTED
A LOT OF TIME, BUT LESS TIME
THAN THE PLAYERS ON THE FIELD
DID TO PUT THESE PROGRAMS IN
PLACE. AND AGAIN, I HOPE NOT. I
WILL JUST SHARE. IT HAS HIT
PAUSE ON OUR LOCAL CONVERSATIONS
, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN
RESTART THOSE CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR US TO
HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS
LAST QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR INDULGENCE, MR. CHAIR. WE
HEARD FROM THE OPPOSITION. I
THINK I GOT THE NUMBER RIGHT.
YOU SAID YOU HAD 100% PASSAGE
RATE OF THE NCLEX. THAT'S PRETTY
GOOD, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT
WE'RE SEEING? AND AGAIN, I
APPRECIATE YOUR FRAMING. IT'S
AFTER PEOPLE HAVE GRADUATED AND
PASSED THE NCLEX. BUT WHAT IS
THE CURRENT PASSAGE RATE FOR THE
NCLEX AT OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES?
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITHIN OUR
CSU'S AND OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES? IN RELATION TO THE
PASSAGE? I THINK ARCS OF NCLEX
PASS RATE HAS BEEN 100% FOR AT
LEAST TWO YEARS. YES SO I DON'T
THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S
UNCOMMON TO SEE, COMPARABLE PASS
RATES, CSU COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE PRIVATES THIS MY THIS
EFFORT IS NOT TO DENIGRATE ANY
ANY ONE PARTY'S EFFORTS IN THIS
IN THIS MOVE TO TRY TO PUSH FOR
MORE NURSES IN OUR HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES. THE, THE PRIVATES DO
A GREAT JOB. THE CSU'S DO A
GREAT JOB. COMMUNITY COLLEGES DO
A GREAT JOB. IT'S JUST TO TRY TO
WE NEED TO IN MY VIEW, WE NEED
TO SUPPLEMENT THE PRODUCTION OF
BACHELOR'S DEGREE NURSES. AND
WHY NOT USE A TEAM MEMBER?
THAT'S ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT
FULLY TRAINED LICENSED NURSES
AND GIVE THEM THE LITTLE EXTRA
TO GET THERE? IT'S NOT GOING TO
IT'S NOT COMPETING WITH ANYBODY.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, WHENEVER WE
HAVE THESE SESSIONS ON THIS
PARTICULAR BILL AND EVERYBODY
HAS A PERSPECTIVE WHICH I
RESPECT AND VALUE, I AM A LITTLE
DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE IT SOUNDS
LIKE A BIT OF A COMPETITION. AND
WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH HEALTH
CARE AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH
WHAT WE DO, WHERE I COME FROM,
WHERE YOU COME FROM, DOCTOR, AND
OTHERS IN THE STATE,
UNDERSERVED, MEDICALLY
UNDERSERVED AREAS, WE CAN'T
AFFORD TO HAVE A COMPETITION.
EVERYBODY'S GOT TO BE IN THE
BOAT. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GRAB AN
OAR. YOU'VE ALL GOT TO PULL AT
THE SAME POINT TO GET THE BOAT
MOVING DOWN THE RIVER TO THE
ULTIMATE GOAL, WHICH IN OUR CASE
IS EFFECTIVE HEALTH CARE FOR
EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. SENATOR, I'M GOING
TO, OUT OF RESPECT, GIVE YOU THE
VOTE HERE TODAY BECAUSE I
BELIEVE YOU TO BE A MAN WHO'S
WORKED HARD ON THIS ISSUE. I
WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH SOME
OF THE RESPONSES AND THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD
TODAY AND HOLD THE RIGHT TO BE
ABLE TO ONCE THIS GETS TO THE
FLOOR, BUT DO JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE UPLIFTING AND
ACKNOWLEDGING THE HUGE ROLE THAT
BOTH OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
CSU PLAY, AND THAT IF WE ARE IN
ANY WAY UNDERMINING OUR CSU'S IN
THIS EFFORT, MANY OF US HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, AND WE'LL
LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS BEFORE WE
FINALLY VOTE ON THIS. AND IF I
MAY SAY, SINCE IT'S A PILOT
PROGRAM, THE LEGISLATURE WILL
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN
ON THAT AND TAKE THE APPROPRIATE
ACTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
DOCTOR ARAMBULA. DOCTOR JACKSON,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR,
AND THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR
PRESENTING THIS BILL. I MEAN, I
THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT,
CALIFORNIA HAS CHANGED
SIGNIFICANTLY. THERE'S A LOT OF
REALIGNMENTS HAPPENING IN OUR
WORKFORCE AND OUR ECONOMY AND
ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS. AND
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT OUR MASTER
PLAN IS OUTDATED FOR HIGHER
EDUCATION, AND IT'S NO LONGER
MEETING THE NEEDS OF EVERYDAY
RESIDENTS. AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO
CONTINUE TO PILOT NEW WAYS TO DO
THESE THINGS, AND MY MOTHER WENT
TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO BECOME
A NURSE, BECAME AN RN HERSELF,
AND IT'S AND I EVEN THOUGHT
ABOUT GOING INTO THE MEDICAL
FIELD, AND TOOK SOME CLASSES AT
A COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND THEY
MADE IT VERY CLEAR IF YOU DON'T
PASS THIS CLASS WITH AN A OR B,
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS CLASS
AGAIN AND, HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE RIGOR. IT HAS TO DO
WITH THE NUMBER OF HOURS YOU'RE
ABLE TO GET. AM I CORRECT IN
THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
YOU BEING ABLE TO GET CLINICAL?
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, YOU
GETTING A LESS QUALITY
EDUCATION. IT ACTUALLY JUST HAS
TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF HOURS
YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE IN
ORDER TO GET THAT
CLASSIFICATION. AS A BACHELOR'S
DEGREE. AM I CORRECT IN THAT?
THAT'S CORRECT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER.
THEREFORE, ALL WE'RE ASKING IS
FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO BE ABLE
TO ADD THOSE EXTRA HOURS,
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WORKFORCE
REQUIREMENTS ARE CHANGING IN
TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF, IN TERMS
OF THE DEGREE IN WHICH THEY'RE
WILLING TO HIRE YOU AT AND IS
SIMILAR TO, THE KIND OF CHANGES
THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO EVEN SEE
BETWEEN A REGISTERED NURSE AND A
LVN. IN MANY CASES, THOSE ARE
REQUIREMENTS ARE STARTING TO
CHANGE IN TERMS OF HOW WHAT KIND
OF EMPLOYMENT YOU'RE GETTING.
DOES IT CHANGE THE WORKLOAD? IT
DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU WILL BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR. IT JUST CHANGES
WHAT KIND OF PAPER YOU GET.
RIGHT, AND BECAUSE IT'S A PILOT,
I REALLY DO BELIEVE. AND YOU
KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, I
WAS ON THE CSU BOARD OF TRUSTEES
WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING FOR BEING
ABLE TO GET A DOCTORATE IN
EDUCATION, AND I REMEMBER VERY
VIVIDLY THAT THE UC WAS
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED BECAUSE OF
THE MASTER PLAN FOR HIGHER
EDUCATION. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL
THE LEGISLATURE FORCED THEM TO
COMPROMISE THAT THE UC CAME ON
BOARD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A
CHOICE, AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE
SAME THINGS ARE WE ARE GOING TO
ALLOW INSTITUTIONS AND SYSTEMS
TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, OR ARE WE
GOING TO SEE WHAT OUR ACTUAL
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, WHO WE
REALLY REPRESENT, ARE A NEED, IN
TERMS OF, IN MANY CASES, THE
FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY MAY NEED
IN THEIR OWN LIVES, SIMILARLY
SITUATED PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY MAY
NEED MORE FLEXIBILITY, LESS TIME
TRAVELING, UNABLE TO LIVE ON
CAMPUSES AND OTHER IN OTHER
CASES. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT
A PILOT PROGRAM TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT THE BEST WAY TO SERVE OUR
CONSTITUENTS, TO BE ABLE TO
ENTER THE WORKFORCE SEEMS
REASONABLE TO ME. GIVEN THAT,
WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF
INSTABILITY IN OUR POPULATION IN
MANY CASES AND THE HUGE NEED
HUGE NEEDS WE NEED IN OUR
WORKFORCE. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING
THIS, TODAY, I JUST I JUST THINK
THAT, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,
THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE USED
TO ARE NO LONGER WORKING FOR
EVERYDAY PEOPLE ANYMORE. AND
WE'VE GOT TO BE WILLING TO
CHANGE SYSTEMS. AND THIS IS A
BROADER CONVERSATION. I THINK WE
NEED TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE, BUT
STICKING INTO THESE BOXES, I
THINK, ARE NOT ARE ONLY HURTING
THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO HELP.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE IN THESE
CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. DOCTOR JACKSON,
SUMMER QUIRK-SILVA. THANK YOU. I
WANT TO APPRECIATE ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES WHO'VE MADE COMMENTS
BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING
TO HEAR THE PERSPECTIVES FROM MY
COLLEAGUES AND, OF COURSE, FROM
THE AUTHOR AND THE WITNESSES,
TWO THINGS THAT THAT I HEARD
THAT REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE
TO ME. ONE IS ALLOWING CHOICES
AND ACCESS AND HAVING MORE, IF
YOU WANT TO SAY, AS YOU'VE USED
TOOL, TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX AND I
THINK IT'S VERY EVIDENT THAT A
FIRST TIME COMMUNITY COLLEGE
STUDENT IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN A
FIRST TIME FOUR YEAR STUDENT,
WHETHER IT'S AT A CSU OR A UC,
THERE'S DIFFERENT PATHWAYS TO
GET THERE. I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT
NORTH ORANGE COUNTY, WHICH OF
COURSE HAS CAL STATE FULLERTON.
WE ALSO HAVE FULLERTON COLLEGE
AND CYPRESS COLLEGE JUST WITHIN
THE ORANGE COUNTY PART OF THE
DISTRICT, AND IS OFTEN CALLED
THE EDUCATION COMMUNITY. I HAVE
HAD MANY MEETINGS OVER MY DECADE
OF SERVICE. WITH OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE, CAL STATE FULLERTON,
RELATED NOT ONLY JUST TO HIGHER
ED, BUT ALSO IN THE NURSING
PROGRAM. IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT
THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. THERE
WERE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT,
SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME
UP A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO ABOUT
THE CLINICAL PRACTICE OF BEING
ABLE TO GET COMMUNITY COLLEGES
INTO SOME OF THESE INSTITUTIONS.
I'VE ALSO TOURED SOME OF THE
PRIVATE COLLEGES. RIGHT NEXT
DOOR IN ANAHEIM IS AN AMERICAN
CAREER COLLEGE THAT HAS A VERY
ROBUST NURSING PROGRAM, BUT THE
POINT HERE IS ALLOWING
INDIVIDUALS SOMETIMES RETURNING
STUDENTS OR RETURNING STAY AT
HOME MOMS WHO ARE HAVE RAISED
CHILDREN OR GOING BACK INTO THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS.
SOMETIMES IT'S STUDENTS WHO
HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ABOUT
WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT AFTER
THEY GRADUATE AND COMMUNITY
COLLEGE. SOMETIMES BECOMES THE
BEST OPTION FOR THEM. BUT I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL. I WOULD
SAY ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IS
THE DIVERSITY OF STUDENTS GOING
INTO THE FIELD AS A FORMER
CLASSROOM TEACHER, THAT DID IT
THE TRADITIONAL WAY, WHICH WAS
GETTING A BACHELOR'S, THEN
GETTING A CREDENTIAL, THERE IS
MANY STEPS TO TAKE. AND YET WE
KNOW GETTING STUDENTS INTO THE
PIPELINE, WHETHER IT'S STARTING
AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THE
FOUR YEAR OR EVEN GOING ALL THE
WAY FOR NOW, A PHD CAN BE
ATTAINED AT, CAL STATE FULLERTON
, WHICH WAS MENTIONED WAS NOT
THE CASE A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO.
LET PEOPLE HAVE THE CHOICE TO
CHOOSE WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION
FOR THEM, AND A LOT OF THAT
OPTION COMES DOWN TO THE COST.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE MAKE
DECISIONS ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY
CAN AFFORD, AND SO I'M REALLY
PROUD TO REPRESENT A DISTRICT
THAT HAS MANY OPTIONS. WE HAVE
STRONG ROP PROGRAMS. WE HAVE
STRONG, OF AGAIN, TWO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND MY ORANGE COUNTY
DISTRICT, ANOTHER ONE IN THE LÀ
PART OF THE DISTRICT, CERRITOS.
AND OF COURSE, CAL STATE
FULLERTON. SO THOUSANDS OF
STUDENTS GOING TO SCHOOL IN MY
DISTRICT. SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS AS A PILOT
PROGRAM AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING WHAT THE RESULTS ARE.
AND, BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE AND
GIVEN GIVING INDIVIDUALS
CHOICES. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO
SANDRA QUIRK-SILVA SUMMER
BURNER. QUICK COMMENT QUESTION.
YEAH I HAD A QUICK STATEMENT. I
JUST LOOKED UP ONLINE. WHAT THE
CSU FEES WERE FOR FOUR YEARS
ACADEMIC. IT'S 22,968 A CURRENT
YEAR CURRENTLY ON YOUR FEE
SCHEDULE, FOR JUST FOR TUITION
THAT I DON'T THINK INCLUDES THE
STUDENT FEES THAT WE'VE AUDITED.
THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS
AUDITED THE CSU'S FOR, THE
BIOMANUFACTURING BACHELOR'S
PROGRAM AT MIRACOSTA IS FOR FOUR
YEARS, $10,000. THAT'S A HUGE
DIFFERENCE FOR MANY
CALIFORNIANS. SO LET'S TAKE THE
DIVERSITY. LET'S TAKE THE EASE
OF ACCESS. LET'S TAKE AWAY THE
FEES. LET'S MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE
FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD CAREERS
WHERE WE KNOW THEY NEED THEM IN
PUBLIC HEALTH. THANK YOU SO MUCH
TO SENATOR BERNER, A SUMMER LOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND COLLEAGUES, THE COMMENTS I
WANT TO MAKE ARE JUST TO,
CONTINUALLY REAFFIRM TO THIS
BODY AND TO THE INSTITUTION
ABOUT, SEGMENTS. AND I TEND TO
BE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT IT IT IS
IMPORTANT THE CALIFORNIA HIGHER
EDUCATION MASTER PLAN BACK IN
1960, IN WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD A
MEANINGFUL REVISION TO HELP
ENSURE THAT DIRECTION OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND IN
ABSENCE OF THAT, WE SEE
OFTENTIMES SEGMENTS THAT ARE
VERY PROTECTIVE OF THEIR OWN
ENTITIES. AND IT IS INCUMBENT
UPON US AS A STATE OF CALIFORNIA
TO HELP SET UP OUR INSTITUTIONS
FOR SUCCESS. AND, OF COURSE, THE
BILL BEFORE US HELPS TO ALSO
ADDRESS THE INDUSTRY AND THE
COMMUNITY NEED SEEING THAT THERE
IS A LACK OF PRACTITIONERS IN
REAL TIME. BUT I JUST WOULD URGE
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LONGEVITY
IN THIS INSTITUTION TO HELP
ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE
CALIFORNIA HIGHER EDUCATION
MASTER PLAN, SO THAT SEGMENTS DO
NOT CONTINUALLY POINT FINGERS AT
EACH OTHER, BUT RATHER WE'RE ALL
STRONGER CALIFORNIA TOGETHER.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A CONVERSATION
FOR A DIFFERENT TIME THAT WE
HAVE A BILL BEFORE US. AND I'M
DELIGHTED, DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE
TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH, SUMMER LOW. AND
JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SENATOR,
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT
DISCUSSION ABOUT COSTS. CAN YOU
JUST MORE EXPLAIN ABOUT THE COST
OF THIS PROPOSED THIS BILL TAKES
ITSELF OUT OF THE COST PROVISION
IN THE MEDINA BILL, WHICH
ALLOWED THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
TO CHARGE AT A HIGHER RATE. SO,
YOU KNOW, I DISAGREE WITH SOME
OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE
ON THAT REGARD. THANK YOU. ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
SEEING NONE. IT'S BEEN A REALLY
ROBUST CONVERSATION. I WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR FOR
INTRODUCING THIS BILL. AND IT'S
AS POLICYMAKERS, WE HAVE AN
OBLIGATION TO EXPLORE EXISTING
POLICIES TO ASK THOSE HARD
QUESTIONS. AS WE'VE HEARD FROM A
NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT POLICIES
ACROSS THE SEGMENTS AND TO
REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE TAKE
ACTION ON BEHALF OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE TO
PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND
CHOICES, I BELIEVE THIS PILOT
WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND AND
ASSESS IF COMMUNITY COLLEGES
SHOULD BE OFFERING BSNS. AND
THIS PILOT IS A DEVIATION FROM
THE TRADITIONAL TENETS OF
CALIFORNIA'S MASTER PLAN OF
HIGHER EDUCATION. BUT AS NOTED
IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS,
THERE'S A HISTORY GOING BACK 20
YEARS OF EXPLORING NEW PROGRAMS
WHEN THE NEED IS DEMONSTRATED
AND WARRANTED. AND WE KNOW WITH
NURSING PROGRAMS, AT LEAST IN
THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THE
LA AREA, THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND
FOR NURSING PROGRAMS. AND FOR
NURSES. AND AS A FORMER TRUSTEE
FOR THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AT IN
LA AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA,
THERE'S A STRONG DEMAND FOR
THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. I LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING THE LEÓN AND
ANALYSIS AND STUDY FOR THIS
BILL. AND WITH THAT, I REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL MY COLLEAGUES
COMMENTS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING THE BILL HERE TODAY.
SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. MADAM SECRETARY, ROLL
CALL PLEASE. I'M SORRY, DID YOU
WANT TO MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT
, MR. CHAIR? I JUST YOU'VE TAKEN
A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS BILL,
AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU
AND YOUR MEMBERS FOR DOING SO.
AND OBVIOUSLY REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SENATOR. MADAM SECRETARY, ROLL
CALL, PLEASE FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE, SB 895. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. FONG Ã FONG. EYE TO
EYE TO EYE. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
EYE BURNER I. BURNER I CHEN I,
CHEN I SALLY A SALLY. NO ERWIN.
JACKSON LO LO I MURATSUCHI
MURATSUCHI I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA I. THAT MEASURE IS
EIGHT EYES WILL KEEP THEM OPEN
FOR ADDITIONAL MEMBERS ADD ON I
ONE NÓ. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE ANY SENATORS
THAT HAVE BILLS UP TODAY TO JOIN
US IN THE HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE IN ROOM FOUR, THREE,
SEVEN. THANK YOU.
YES, THAT IS. YES, I THINK
THAT'S FINE. IF THAT'S IT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. YEAH I KNOW WHAT TO
DO WITH PEOPLE. I HAD A BITE.
THANK YOU. YEAH. YES MY QUESTION
. I. I LIKE TO INVITE SENATOR
BRADFORD. SENATOR GLAZER,
SENATOR STERN, TO JOIN US IN
ASSEMBLY HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE, ROOM 437. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. SORRY I. HAVEN'T GOT TO
REWRITE THE. BATHROOM. FIVE
YEARS. THANK YOU. NEVER DID
MASTER PLAN PUT ME ON. I DIDN'T
GET THE MEMO. OKAY. ARE YOU
GOING TO STOP IT? NO. WE DID
THIS, OKAY. WHAT? WE DID THIS IN
JANUARY. FIRST HEARING, BUT NO
ONE WOULD NOTICE. I TODAY. AT
FIRST, I NOTICED THOSE TWO, AND
I'M LIKE, DID THEY JUST HAPPEN
TO. THAT WAS THE THIRD. AND THEN
I NOTICED YOUR TOP. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, SENATOR GLAZER. WELCOME TO
THE BILL. BILL, WE HAVE A MOTION
. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S LET'S
HAVE THE SENATOR, PRESENT ITEM
NUMBER. THANK YOU. GUYS ARE SO
THOROUGH. THANK YOU, SENATOR
GLAZER. SENATOR GLAZER, WELCOME,
PRESENTING SB 1200, ITEM NUMBER
THREE. WELCOME. JUST A LITTLE
BIT OUT OF BREATH. TAKE YOUR
TIME, THANKS. THANK YOU, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PRESENT THIS BILL TODAY. AND
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH US ON THEIR
THOROUGH ANALYSIS. I FIRST WANT
TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, THIS BILL
EXTENDS THE CALIFORNIA PROMISE
PROGRAM, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED
BY SB 412 AND 2016, THIS BILL
WILL ELIMINATE THE SUNSET DATE,
AND INDEFINITELY EXTENDING THE
PROGRAM REQUIRE THE TRUSTEES TO
PROVIDE A REPORT OVER THE NEXT
EIGHT YEARS ABOUT THE PROGRAM'S
PARTICIPATION RATE, THE AMOUNT
OF STUDENT SUCCESS FUNDS THAT
ARE RECEIVED BY AND USED BY THE
CAMPUSES. IT DOES RENAME THE
PROGRAM TO A FINISH IN FOR AND
THROUGH AND TO THE CALIFORNIA
PROMISE PROGRAM IS A NAME THAT
HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN A LOT OF
PLACES IN CALIFORNIA. SO IT HAS
CREATED SOME CONFUSION. SO IT
HAS A NAME CHANGE, AND IT DOES
REQUIRE THAT AT EACH RESPECTIVE
CAMPUSES, LIST THE PROGRAMS THAT
THEY DO TO, TO SUPPORT THE
FINISH AND FOR, THIS PROGRAM,
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AROUND.
BACK WHEN I AUTHORED THE BILL,
THE FOUR YEAR GRADUATION RATE AT
THE STATE UNIVERSITIES, ON
AVERAGE WAS 19. THAT'S WHAT THE
FOUR YEAR GRADUATION RATE WAS,
IN 2015. TODAY, NOT JUST BECAUSE
OF THIS BILL, BUT BECAUSE OF THE
GREAT WORK OF THE UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM, THE PRESIDENTS, THE
FACULTY, THE FOUR YEAR
GRADUATION RATE NOW IS, I THINK,
AROUND 35, 36. THE REAL PROGRESS
. THINK ABOUT THAT, WE TRY TO
MOVE THE BUREAUCRACY IN SO MANY
WAYS IN OUR LEGISLATIVE LIFE,
BUT WITH ALMOST VERY LITTLE NEW
MONEY, A DOUBLING OF THE
GRADUATION RATE IN EIGHT AND A
HALF YEARS, THAT'S PRETTY
AMAZING, GUYS. AND I KNOW IT'S
THE WORK THAT YOU DO HERE IN
THIS COMMITTEE, BUT, MOST PRAISE
IS DUE TO THE WORK ON THE
CAMPUSES WITH OUR STUDENTS. SO
IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A GREAT
PROGRAM THAT'S SUPPORTED THIS
EFFORT TO, HAVE KIDS GRADUATE
THE PROGRAM PROVIDES, PRIORITY
REGISTRATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE
IN IT. THEY SAY, I WANT TO GET
THROUGH IN FOUR YEARS. YOU GET
PRIORITY REGISTRATION, YOU GET
SOME ENHANCED ACADEMIC ADVISING,
YOU COMMIT TO TAKING AT LEAST 30
UNITS, AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE
PROGRAM TODAY, THEY HAVE A 64,
GRADUATION RATE, MUCH HIGHER
THAN THE SYSTEMS RATE. I WAS
JUST AT FULLERTON. ASSEMBLYWOMAN
QUIRK-SILVA HAS. OH, THERE SHE
IS. I WAS IN FULLERTON, JUST A
COUPLE MONTHS AGO ON A ON A
HEARING ON THE FINISHING FOUR
PROGRAM. AND WHAT THEY SAID AT
FULLERTON IS THAT THE STUDENTS
THAT ARE IN THE FINISH IN FOUR
PROGRAM, IT HAS AN AMAZINGLY
HIGH 93% IF THEY'RE IN THE
PROGRAM AT FULLERTON, 93% OF
THEM ARE GRADUATING IN FOUR
YEARS. IS THAT AN INCREDIBLE
TRACK RECORD AT THAT CAMPUS?
THEY DESERVE A LOT OF PRAISE,
BUT THE CHALLENGE IS THAT MOST
OF THE STUDENTS DON'T KNOW ABOUT
THIS FOUR YEAR TRACK, AND
THEY'RE NOT ENROLLED IN IT. AND
THAT'S WHAT WE DID TALK ABOUT AT
FULLERTON. SO YOU CAN TELL I'M
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS EFFORT
THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, I HAVE A
WITNESS HERE WHO WAS A
PARTICIPANT AT THE CALIFORNIA
PROMISE PROGRAM AT SACRAMENTO
STATE, NIKITA AHUJA, UMA, WHO
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HIS
INVOLVEMENT? AND WITH THAT, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR.
CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS NIKITA AKIMOV, AND
I'M A THIRD YEAR INCOMING
STUDENT AT SACRAMENTO STATE
PURSUING A BACHELOR'S OF ART IN
POLITICAL SCIENCE. THE
CALIFORNIA PROMISE PROGRAM HAS
BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF MY
ACADEMIC JOURNEY. WHEN I FIRST
ENROLLED, I WAS UNCERTAIN ABOUT
HOW TO NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES
OF HIGHER EDUCATION. HOWEVER,
WITH THE ADDITIONAL ACADEMIC
COUNSELING PROVIDED THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM, IT WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN
SETTING ME ON A CLEAR PATH TO
GRADUATE IN FOUR YEARS WITH THE
GUIDANCE OF DEDICATED
COUNSELORS, I WAS ABLE TO CREATE
A STRUCTURED AND EFFICIENT
ACADEMIC PLAN, ENSURING THAT I
STAYED ON TRACK. EACH SEMESTER.
THIS SENSE OF SECURITY AND
DIRECTION ALLOWED ME TO FULLY
IMMERSE MYSELF IN THE VIBRANT
HORNET COMMUNITY AT SAC STATE. I
CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR TWO STUDENT
ORGANIZATIONS WHERE I ACTIVELY
ADVOCATE FOR SOCIAL ISSUES THAT
ARE CLOSE TO MY HEART. BALANCING
THESE LEADERSHIP ROLES WHILE
MAINTAINING A FIRM GPA HAS BEEN
CHALLENGING, BUT THE SUPPORT
FROM THE CALIFORNIA PROMISE
PROGRAM HAS MADE IT MANAGEABLE
AND POSSIBLE. KNOWING THAT I
WILL GRADUATE IN FOUR YEARS HAS
GIVEN ME THE CONFIDENCE TO
ENGAGE DEEPLY IN MY STUDIES AND
EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. IT
HAS PROVIDED ME WITH A SENSE OF
STABILITY AND PURPOSE, ALLOWING
ME TO CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO
MY CAMPUS COMMUNITY. SB 1200
WILL ENSURE THAT COUNTLESS OTHER
STUDENTS CAN BENEFIT FROM THE
SAME SUPPORT AND OPPORTUNITIES
THAT I GOT. IT IS A CRITICAL
INVESTMENT IN OUR STUDENTS
SUCCESS AND THE OVERALL
PROSPERITY OF OUR STATE'S HIGHER
EDUCATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AND I
URGE ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT SB
1200 AND HELP SUSTAIN THIS VITAL
PROGRAM FOR THE CURRENT AND
FUTURE GENERATION OF CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS. THANK YOU. WELL DONE.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. A
SECOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COLLEAGUES. ARE THERE WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM?
ARE THERE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM?
ARE THERE TWEENERS IN A HEARING
ROOM? COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS? SAU QUIRK-SILVA,
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE HOME
OF THE TITANS. APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS,
BILL. IT SEEMS A LITTLE QUIET
COMPARED TO THE BILL THAT WE
JUST HAD FOR. BUT A TITLE DOES
MEAN SOMETHING WHEN YOU SAY
CALIFORNIA PROMISE, IT CAN MEAN
A VARIETY OF THINGS. WHEN YOU
SAY FINISH IN FOUR AND THROUGH
AND TWO PROGRAM, I HAD TO READ
THAT 2 OR 3 TIMES. THAT'S A
LITTLE TRICKY, BUT I DO THINK IT
WILL GIVE STUDENTS PAUSE, AND
THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANT
STUDENTS TO FLOW INTO THIS TYPE
OF PROGRAM TO GET OUT IN FOUR
YEARS BECAUSE THEY CAN, BUT THEY
HAVE TO HAVE NOT ONLY THAT MAP,
THEY HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT,
THE, IS REQUIRED. AND AS YOU
NOTED, 30 UNITS. THAT'S QUITE A
LOT OF UNITS TO TAKE. BUT IF
THEY STAY ON TRACK, THEY CAN DO
THIS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
HAVE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES,
AND MAYBE IT'S A FUTURE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION, IS THAT WHETHER
IT'S THIS FOUR, FOUR YEAR
PROGRAM OR THE TRANSFER PROGRAM,
WHERE THEY GO TO THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE TWO YEARS AND THEN
TRANSFER AND THEN COULD STILL
FINISH IN FOUR YEARS, WE ARE NOT
GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO
STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL. AND AS
YOU MENTIONED, IT'S LETTING
STUDENTS KNOW. AND SO I
SERIOUSLY THINK IT'S THE SENIOR
YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL. THE LAST
SEMESTER BEFORE THEY EVEN GET ON
TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR THE
FOUR YEAR TO LET THEM KNOW THESE
ARE SOME PATHWAYS. IF YOU FOLLOW
THEM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
ACHIEVE THAT GOAL IN FOUR YEARS
BECAUSE YOUR DATA IN HERE
ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT, YES,
THERE'S SUCCESS, BUT THERE'S
STILL A LARGE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS
THAT ARE TAKING THE FIVE AND SIX
YEARS TO GRADUATE. AND I'M
REALLY A BIG BELIEVER THAT THEY
DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS,
BUT I DO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU.
YEAH. THANK YOU. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? CNN SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? I WOULD AND JUST
A POINT THAT I MISSED IN MY
STAFF NOTES. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN
PAYING MORE ATTENTION. THE FOCUS
IS ON, FIRST GENERATION LOW
INCOME PELL ELIGIBLE. THAT IS
THE FOCUS OF THE PROGRAM.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S AVAILABLE TO
EVERYONE, BUT THAT'S THAT IS THE
FOCUS OF MAKING SURE THAT
HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED IN
OUR HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM GET
MORE AWARENESS OF THIS, THIS
OPPORTUNITY AND BELIEVE ME, THIS
AWARENESS THING IS A BIG
PROBLEM. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
THE 5 OR 6 YEAR PROGRAM, LISTEN,
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS,
EVERY YEAR HAVE DONE EVERYTHING
RIGHT. THEY GOT THE GRADES, HAVE
THE DEBT, AND THEY DROP OUT WITH
, WITH NO DEGREE, AND THAT'S,
THAT'S A FAILURE THAT I PUSHED
MY FRIENDS IN THE HIGHER
EDUCATION SPACE TO, FOCUS ON
BECAUSE THAT IF YOU IF YOU WERE
A BUSINESS, I'M SORRY FOR THE
LITTLE LONGER CLOSE, BUT IF YOU
WERE A BUSINESS AND YOU WERE
LOSING 10,000 OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
EVERY YEAR, YOU'D WANT TO KNOW
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON. AND
THE SYSTEMS HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD
JOB OF SURVEYING AND FINDING OUT
WHAT ARE THOSE BARRIERS. WE KNOW
THEY'RE BARRIERS FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE. WE WANT TO BREAK THEM
DOWN AND MAKE SURE THEY CAN BE
SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT,
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
SENATOR GLAZER, FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE CSU SYSTEM
AND, FOR ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS AND FOR
YOUR ONGOING LEADERSHIP AND WORK
AND EFFORTS IN ASSISTING
STUDENTS AT THE CSU TO CONTINUE
THEIR GRADUATION AND TO EARNING
THEIR DEGREES. AND WITH THAT, I
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THE
MEASURE HERE TODAY, MADAM
SECRETARY, ROLL CALL, PLEASE
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE, SB 1200.
THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. FONG. FONG EYE TO EYE
TO EYE. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I
BURNER I BURNER I CHEN CHEN I A
SALLY A SALLY I IRWIN JACKSON.
LOW, LOW I MURATSUCHI I
MURATSUCHI I QUIRK-SILVA. HI.
THANK YOU QUIRK-SILVA I OKAY
GOOD THAT MEASURE HAS NINE EYES.
WE'LL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS AT ON. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. SENATOR BRADFORD IS
ON HIS WAY. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT
ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I KNOW YOU
JUST GOT. COLLEAGUES AT THIS
TIME WILL ENTERTAIN, ADD ONS FOR
THE CONSENT CALENDAR, MADAM
SECRETARY, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO, SB 939.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FILE
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SB 1335. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. LO LO
I MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI I
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA I
CONSENT CALENDAR IS TEN EYES AND
WE'LL KEEP THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. AD ON. AND I
THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK
YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR YOUR
PATIENCE, SENATORS ON HIS WAY.
THANK YOU.
MR.
YEAH, I USE THAT ARGUMENT.
YEAH WE'LL HELP YOU WITH THAT.
WHY IS HE LAUGHING? OH, NO.
YEAH. YOU'RE STUCK GETTING SOME
INAPPROPRIATE TEXT, OKAY. LET ME
GUESS. IT'S COMING FROM ACROSS
THE. ARAMBULA YEAH. THINGS I'VE
SEEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COLLEAGUES. I'D LIKE TO INVITE
SENATOR BRADFORD, SENATOR
OKOBOJI AND SENATOR STERN TO
JOIN US IN THE SENATE HIGHER
EDUCATION AND ROOM FOUR, THREE,
SEVEN. THANK YOU.
SO WE DON'T GET ANY COOKIES. I
NEED THEM. YOU GUYS HAD ENOUGH?
OKAY GUYS. AND THAT'S WHY I
DECIDE NOT Þ.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. RIGHT
NOW. I WANT YOU TO. MY HEART IS
ALSO.
THERE. I'M LIKE. MY. MY WIFE. MY
ONE REP. MAX WHO? I FELT THAT
SHE WOULD COME TO THE PROBLEM
WITH YOU. SHE. YEAH.
I CALLED YOU PERFECT. YEAH? YEAH
WELCOME. SENATOR STERN.
PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SB
1252. WELCOME. OKAY THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIR, PROMISE NOT TO BE A
PEST HERE TODAY, BUT, I DO HATE
MOSQUITOES. AND I KNOW YOU ALL
DO, TOO. THEY'RE NOT JUST PESTS.
THEY'RE A RISK TO, OUR KIDS. NOT
TO MENTION WILDLIFE, OUR WATER,
SOIL. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
BRING SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE
STATE TO BEAR WITH THE HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE TO UNLEASH
THE POWER OF OUR STATE'S TOP
RESEARCHERS ON UC AND CSU
CAMPUSES TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME
BEST PRACTICES OUT IN THE FIELD
AND DEAL WITH THE MOSQUITO
PROBLEM BEFORE WE GET MORE CASES
OF DENGUE, WHICH ARE NOW HERE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WEST
NILE, I'VE HAD LOST PERSONAL
FAMILY FRIENDS TO THE VIRUS.
AND, AND THE LIKE. SO VECTOR
CONTROL DISTRICTS NEED TO START
THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND
FINDING WAYS NOT TO JUST SPRAY
EVERYWHERE, BUT REALLY GET
TARGETED AND USE THE BEST
TECHNOLOGY AND PRACTICES WE GOT.
AND SO WE BROUGHT SOME OF OUR
BEST HERE, SO I'M GOING TO DEFER
TO OUR EXPERT WITNESS AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELCOME.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS OLIVIA WINOKER. I'M
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
MOSQUITO SURVEILLANCE AND
RESEARCH PROGRAM AT UC DAVIS,
WHERE I AM A POSTDOCTORAL
SCHOLAR. OUR STATE FACES A
NUMBER OF MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASE
THREATS, INCLUDING WEST NILE
VIRUS THAT HAS CAUSED OVER 8000
REPORTED HUMAN CASES SINCE IT
ARRIVED HERE IN 2003. CLIMATE
CHANGE AND GLOBALIZED TRAVEL AND
TRADE CONTINUE TO RAISE THE
POTENTIAL OF OUTBREAKS, AND
INVASIVE MOSQUITOES ARE A
GROWING ISSUE STATEWIDE. THESE
DAYTIME BITING MOSQUITOES HAVE
CHANGED THE BACKYARD EXPERIENCE
ACROSS THE STATE, AND THEY CAN
TRANSMIT SEVERAL EXOTIC VIRUSES,
INCLUDING DENGUE, ZIKA AND
CHIKUNGUNYA, WHICH ARE DETECTED
EACH YEAR IN CALIFORNIA'S
TRAVELERS. ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR
AN OUTBREAK IS THE ARRIVAL OF AN
INFECTED PERSON THAT THEN
INFECTS OUR MOSQUITOES. IN FACT,
LOCAL DENGUE TRANSMISSION
OCCURRED IN CALIFORNIA FOR THE
FIRST TIME TWICE LAST YEAR IN
PASADENA AND LONG BEACH, AS
MANDATED IN THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY CODE, OUR TEAM
COLLABORATES CLOSELY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
HEALTH AND THE MOSQUITO AND
VECTOR CONTROL ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA ON RESEARCH,
SURVEILLANCE AND DATA ANALYTICS
TO IMPROVE OUR ABILITY TO
PREVENT MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES.
THE PROGRAM IS RUNNING AS
INTENDED, WITH MULTIPLE AVENUES
OF COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION
DISSEMINATION, INCLUDING REGULAR
ENGAGEMENT WITH UNIVERSITY
RESEARCHERS ACROSS THE STATE,
THE LOSS OF THE UC STATEWIDE
MOSQUITO RESEARCH PROGRAM IN THE
LATE 2000 STRIPPED AWAY FUNDING
THAT ONCE INCENTIVIZED OUR
UNIVERSITY RESEARCHERS TO
ADDRESS OUR STATE'S NEEDS. SB
1252 WOULD PAVE THE WAY FOR MUCH
NEEDED REINVESTMENT IN MOSQUITO
CONTROL RESEARCH, IN LINE WITH
THE STATE'S GOALS TO IMPLEMENT
SUSTAINABLE PEST MANAGEMENT,
EFFECTIVE, SUSTAINABLE MOSQUITO
CONTROL IS EVIDENCE BASED. THERE
ARE MANY, MANY REASONS FOR
OPTIMISM ABOUT EMERGING
TECHNOLOGIES AND THESE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES BRING MANY
QUESTIONS THAT NEED OBJECTIVE
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE. IT'S
ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE THAT OUR UC
AND CSU RESEARCHERS ARE FULLY
ENGAGED, NOT ONLY IN CONDUCTING
THIS RESEARCH, BUT ALSO IN
REGULAR DIALOG WITH OUR PARTNERS
IN MOSQUITO CONTROL AND PUBLIC
HEALTH TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES
AND SEEK APPROPRIATE, SCALABLE,
SUSTAINABLE, INTERDISCIPLINARY
SOLUTIONS. WE APPRECIATE THE
EFFORTS OF SENATOR STERN AND
THIS COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT
OUR UNIVERSITIES WILL BE AT THE
FOREFRONT OF NEW RESEARCH TO
KEEP CALIFORNIANS SAFE FROM
MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM. ARE THERE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM? ARE THERE TWEENERS
IN A HEARING ROOM? COLLEAGUES,
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL
RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION, A
SECOND, A SIMILAR. SALLY. YES.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WE NEED A
LAW TO TELL AN AGENCY TO TALK TO
PEOPLE, WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM.
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST TALK TO
THEM? YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE
NOT ASKING THE AGENCY TO TALK TO
PEOPLE. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO
INTEGRATE THIS NEW TECHNIQUE
INTO THEIR RESEARCH. SO TO TAKE
INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT AND
TO, TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE
RESEARCH, STRATEGY. SO NOT SO
MUCH JUST TO TALK TO PEOPLE, BUT
LIKE TO IDENTIFY THINGS LIKE
BACTERIAL LARVICIDES THAT HAVE
SHOWN THAT THEY CAN, GO KILL THE
MOSQUITO LARVAE BEFORE THEY'RE
BORN, WHEREAS NORMALLY RIGHT NOW
IN YOUR, IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THE
MOSQUITO FOLKS JUST GO SPRAY AND
THEY AREN'T USING THOSE
LARVICIDES THINGS LIKE THAT TO,
TO INTEGRATE THE SMARTEST
PEOPLE'S RESEARCH IN THE STATE
INTO WHAT THE VECTOR CONTROL
DISTRICTS AND YOUR LOCALS ARE
DOING. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE
NEED A LAW TO DO THAT. CAN YOU
ASSURE ME THIS IS NOT A VEHICLE
FOR A GUT AND AMEND IN AUGUST?
YES, I CAN OKAY. CAN I ADD TO
WHY WE WOULD NEED A LAW, YES.
OKAY. BRIEFLY. THAT'S RIGHT. IF
THAT'S OKAY. YES, I THINK
EVERYTHING IS INCREDIBLY RUNNING
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE
RUNNING THIS PROGRAM THAT REALLY
VALUE UNIVERSITY RESEARCHERS.
BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE
PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT WERE
FACILITATING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS, I THINK A LOT OF
THIS GOOD RESEARCH THAT'S BEING
DONE ISN'T GOING TO GET APPLIED.
OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
YEP. THANK YOU. A SIMILAR SALLY
A SIMILAR MURATSUCHI. SINCE I
DON'T SEE ANY OTHER SENATORS
READY TO PRESENT THEIR BILL, I'D
LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
MOSQUITO CONTROL HERE. YEAH. YOU
KNOW, I, SO I WAS BORN AND
RAISED IN A TROPICAL ISLAND OF
OKINAWA WHERE THERE WERE A LOT
OF MOSQUITOES. AND I WOULD
IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE OTHER
PARTS OF THE, OF THE WORLD THAT
THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO DEAL
WITH A LOT MORE. YOU KNOW, WHY
CAN'T WE JUST DRAW ON, YOU KNOW,
I MEAN, DO OTHER COUNTRIES, WHAT
WHAT COUNTRIES ARE CONSIDERED TO
HAVE THE MOST ADVANCED, MOST
EFFECTIVE MOSQUITO CONTROLS AND,
YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN, CAN WE, YOU
KNOW, ADOPT SOME OF THOSE
PRACTICES, FOR, EXPERIENCES FROM
OTHER COUNTRIES? IT'S A REALLY
GOOD QUESTION. I'LL TURN IT TO,
TO OUR, OUR POSTDOCTORAL
RESEARCHER HERE, BUT I WILL JUST
SIMPLY SAY THAT OTHER COUNTRIES
ARE LEANING ON UC DAVIS RIGHT
NOW. SO THEIR RESEARCH IS BEING
DEPLOYED IN EAST ASIA, IN
AFRICA, BUT NOT IN LIKE LÀ,
FRESNO, THE SOUTH BAY. SO THAT'S
THE IRONY IS ACTUALLY OUR BEST
AND BRIGHTEST ARE DOING THE BEST
RESEARCH IN THE WORLD. IT'S
WHERE IT'S BEING DEPLOYED AND
BEING SHOWN TO BE EFFECTIVE IS
PLACES LIKE, YOU KNOW,
SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA, EAST ASIA.
BUT MEANWHILE, HERE WE ARE.
DENGUE IS BREAKING OUT. ZIKA IS
COMING ALL THE REST. SO IT'S
MORE LIKE BRINGING THOSE SMARTS
AND NOT OUTSOURCING IT, BUT
BRINGING IT BACK. BUT I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU HAD A FURTHER
COMMENT. I THINK I'LL SAY ALSO,
LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE
DIFFERENT. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
REGULATIONS, DIFFERENT THINGS IN
THEIR TOOLBOX THAT WE DON'T
HAVE. WE HAVE A HUGE PUSH FOR
INTEGRATED MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT.
SO NOT JUST SPRAYING PESTICIDES.
THEY, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES
THAT, CAN USE DDT STILL STILL
USE IT. WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE
DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. RIGHT. SO
I THINK, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING
FOR NOVEL WAYS TO CONTROL
MOSQUITOES BEFORE WE GET TO A
POTENTIAL OUTBREAK. SO CAN WE DO
ALL THESE THINGS? CAN WE ENGAGE
COMMUNITY? CAN WE USE LOCAL
CONTROL? CAN WE DO OTHER WAYS OF
CONTROLLING MOSQUITOES BEFORE WE
EVEN GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE
IS A POTENTIAL OUTBREAK? WE ALSO
HAVE A LOT OF, PEOPLE THAT ARE
WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING
THE DATA THAT WE HAVE. SOMETHING
THAT WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT IN
CALIFORNIA IS COLLECTING DATA.
SO CAN WE CONNECT THE DATA THAT
WE ALREADY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
HOW THAT WOULD TURN INTO HUMAN
CASES SO WE CAN INTERVENE AT THE
RIGHT TIME WITH THE SMALLEST
AMOUNT OF PESTICIDES POSSIBLE?
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO REMEMBER ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING
NONE. SENATOR STERN, WE'D LIKE
TO CLOSE, PLEASE. SURE. YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR. I'M GLAD WE HAD A
SECOND TO FOCUS ON THIS. AND, I
DO APPRECIATE THIS COMMITTEE'S
LEADERSHIP ON ON RESEARCH,
ESPECIALLY UTILIZING OUR HIGHER
EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS TO DO
THAT, I'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED AS A
DAD NOW WITH THE TWO AND A ONE
YEAR OLD WHO ARE JUST GETTING
LIT UP, LIKE, RIGHT NOW IN LÀ,
AND IT HONESTLY SCARES ME. AND
WE HAD PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE
HOUSE AND GO SPRAY, AND THEY
BASICALLY KILLED ALL OUR PLANTS,
KILLED EVERYTHING. THE KIDS
COULDN'T EVEN GO OUTSIDE FOR A
FEW DAYS, AND I THOUGHT TO
MYSELF, THERE'S GOT TO BE A
BETTER WAY HERE, AND WHETHER
IT'S, THESE SORT OF, YOU KNOW,
TARGETED USES OF THESE BACTERIAL
LARVICIDES, YOU'VE, WE'VE HEARD
MENTIONED AND THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS RIGHTLY, RIGHTLY POINTS
OUT THAT OUR, OUR DEFINITION ON
SOMETHING CALLED BIOLOGICAL
CONTROLS, BY THE WAY, MAY BE A
LITTLE LIMITED. SO WE WANT TO
KEEP WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE
AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUS
COMMITTEE AND OUR EXPERTS HERE
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EXPANSIVE
ENOUGH AND THAT WE'RE NOT SORT
OF RESTRICTING WHAT'S ON THE
TABLE, BUT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE
INCLUDING OUR BEST PRACTICES IN
THERE. BUT ALSO JUST BASIC,
SIMPLE THINGS LIKE DRAGONFLIES,
WHICH EAT MOSQUITO LARVAE AND IF
THE CRAYFISH INVADE YOUR LOCAL
STREAMS, THEY EAT UP THE
DRAGONFLIES. AND SO THERE'S NO
DRAGONFLIES LEFT. YOU GET A LOT
MORE MOSQUITOES. SAME FOR BATS,
SO THOSE KINDS OF SIMPLE
SOLUTIONS WE COULD GET TO AND
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE STOP WASTING
THEIR MONEY ON, HAVING THE ORKIN
GUY COME OUT AND JUST SPRAY YOUR
WHOLE BACKYARD, AND THEN YOU GET
MOSQUITOES A WEEK LATER, WE GET
SOME OF OUR SMARTIES, INFORMING
OUR VECTOR CONTROL DISTRICTS TO
DO GOOD WORK, SAVE TAXPAYERS
DOLLARS. AND I PROMISE YOU,
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A MOSQUITO
BILL. SO THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION, BUT I'M SERIOUS ABOUT
THIS STUFF, AND I HOPE YOU ARE,
TOO, AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SENATOR
STERN, FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. AND WE KNOW THAT THE
BARKER LAB AT UC DAVIS CONTINUES
TO PROVIDE RESEARCH DATA AND
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING
MOSQUITO ABATEMENT, INCLUDING
SUSTAINABLE PEST MANAGEMENT, TO
OUR STATE. THIS MEASURE APPEARS
TO AFFIRM THEIR WORK AND CODIFY
ADDITIONAL PRACTICES. AND WITH
THAT, I'M PREPARED TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MADAM SECRETARY. ROLL
CALL, PLEASE FILE ITEM NUMBER
FOUR, SB 1252. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. PHONG HAI PHONG I TO
I TO I ARAMBULA BURNER I BURNER
I CHEN CHEN I ASALI A ASALI I
ERWIN JACKSON LO LO I MURATSUCHI
I MURATSUCHI I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA I ARAMBULA I Þ
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I. THAT
MEASURE HAS NINE EYES. WE'LL
KEEP THEM OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS ADD ON. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME
SENATOR BRADFORD OR SENATOR CHO
TO JOIN US IN THE ASSEMBLY
HIGHER EDUCATION COMMITTEE IN
ROOM 437. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO
THERE'S THE PROVISION ABOUT. YOU
KNOW, IN THIS, WAHAB BILL THAT
YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE PRIOR
TWO CONVICTIONS WERE $50 OR
MORE. IS THAT. YEAH HOW? THERE
WAS A GUY FROM CDA THAT WAS
TELLING ME THAT, THAT, I CAN
POINT OUT TO YOU. YEAH YEAH.
REALLY GOOD. TO READ THE BILL.
YEAH. APPARENTLY, THAT SECTION
IS $50. OKAY OKAY. SO. SO THE
CDA GUY WAS SAYING THAT THAT IN
ORDER TO. WELL, IN MOST CASES,
YOU KNOW, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY
EVIDENCE OF WHAT THE PROPERTY
AMOUNT WAS IN THE PRIORS, BUT, I
MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I WAS BACK IN
CRIMINAL COURTS IN THE 1990S. I
SEEM TO RECALL THAT YOU MAY HAVE
TO GO INTO THE PLEA AGREEMENT,
EITHER THE PLEA AGREEMENT, BUT A
LOT OF THESE ARE JUST KIND OF
SPRINKLED IN. THEY MAY HAVE TO
REVISE THEIR FORM. YEAH. GOING
FORWARD, THEY MAY BE AGGRESSIVE
ABOUT LOOKING BACKWARDS. YEAH
EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
MIGHT BE THE THAT MIGHT BE AN
ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT
AMOUNT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN
YOU CHARGE PETTY THEFT IT'S JUST
NOT ENOUGH. YEAH SO AND THEN
THEY WOULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T HAVE
A REASON TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY
TO SAY I GOT IT I GOT IT. YEAH.
SO BUT YOU COULD PROBABLY FIGURE
IT OUT FROM LIKE THE, PLEA
AGREEMENT OR IF THERE WAS A.
SECOND ITEM. NUMBER SIX, SB 1348
BY SENATOR BRADFORD. WELCOME.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL BE
STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I'M
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS, SO I THANK YOU. AND
YOUR STAFF ARE WORKING WITH ME
TO HOPEFULLY STRENGTHEN THIS
BILL. THIS BILL WILL CREATE A
STATE LEVEL DESIGNATION
RECOGNIZING COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES IN CALIFORNIA THAT
ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT
COMMITMENTS TO ENHANCING BLACK
STUDENT SUCCESS AND EXPERIENCE.
HISTORICALLY, BLACK STUDENTS ARE
UNDERREPRESENTED ON COLLEGE
CAMPUSES AND THE STATISTICS OF
BLACK COLLEGE STUDENT
ACHIEVEMENT SHOULD BE CONCERNING
TO ALL OF US. NATIONAL DATA
SHOWS BLACK STUDENT ENROLLMENT
DECLINED BY 22% BETWEEN 2010 AND
2020. DATA ALSO SHOWS THAT BLACK
STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO
DELAY ATTENDING COLLEGE AFTER
HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT BLACK
STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO
ATTEND ONLY PART TIME, LESS
LIKELY TO EARN A DEGREE, AND
MORE LIKELY TO TAKE ON GREATER
DEBT DURING THEIR SCHOOL
EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S NOT ALL
THE BAD NEWS. THERE ARE COLLEGES
AND UNIVERSITIES THAT I SHOULD
SAY. IT'S NOT ALL BAD NEWS AND
CALIFORNIA THAT ARE
DISTINGUISHING THEMSELVES
THROUGH THEIR INVESTMENT IN AND
COMMITMENT TO BLACK STUDENT
SUCCESS, 1348 WILL CREATE A
METHOD TO RECOGNIZE THOSE
INNOVATIVE COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES BY AWARDING THEM A
SPECIAL DESIGNATION OF SERVING
BLACK STUDENTS. NO SUCH
DESIGNATION CURRENTLY EXISTS IN
CALIFORNIA OR FEDERALLY FOR THAT
MATTER. THIS RECOGNITION WOULD
BE SIMILAR TO THE DESIGNATIONS
CURRENTLY AWARDED TO FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FOR MINORITY SERVING
INSTITUTIONS, SUCH AS HISPANIC
SERVING INSTITUTIONS, ASIAN
AMERICAN AND NATIVE AMERICAN AND
PACIFIC ISLANDER SERVING
INSTITUTIONS, BLACK STUDENTS
SERVING INSTITUTIONS WILL FOCUS
ON EXPANDING EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES AND IMPROVING THE
ACADEMIC OUTCOMES FOR BLACK
STUDENTS. THIS RECOGNITION WOULD
ALSO HELP STUDENTS AND THEIR
FAMILIES IDENTIFY THOSE COLLEGES
AND UNIVERSITIES IN CALIFORNIA
THAT DELIVER HIGH LEVELS OF
SERVICE FOR BLACK STUDENTS. THIS
BILL IS SUPPORTED BY THE UCS,
OUR CSU'S, AND OUR CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF
TEACHERS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. AND HERE WITH ME
TODAY IS DOCTOR LUKE WOOD,
PRESIDENT OF SAC STATE
UNIVERSITY. HERB ENGLISH, DEAN
OF COUNSELING AND SPECIAL
PROGRAMS IN RIVERSIDE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE, AND ALSO PRESIDENT
KEITH CURRY, PRESIDENT OF
COMPTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE. SO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
SENATOR. WELCOME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. YES.
ALL RIGHT. SO, AS WAS MENTIONED,
MY NAME IS LUKE WOOD, AND I'M
SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF
SACRAMENTO STATE AND VERY MUCH
IN SUPPORT OF SENATOR BRADFORD'S
BILL, I JUST WANT TO PAINT THE
PICTURE AT THE AT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN A NATIONAL
LANDSCAPE. SO THERE ARE TWO
DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF MINORITY
SERVING INSTITUTIONS. THERE ARE
ENROLLMENT BASED INSTITUTIONS.
AND THEN MISSION BASED
INSTITUTIONS. SO YOUR MISSION
BASED INSTITUTIONS ARE YOUR
HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES AND YOUR TRIBAL
COLLEGES. THE FOCUS OF THAT
DESIGNATION IS BASED UPON THEIR
HISTORICAL MISSION AND FOCUS.
AND SERVING BLACK AND NATIVE
STUDENTS SEPARATE FROM THAT,
THEIR ENROLLMENT BASED
INSTITUTIONS. AND THERE'S
ENROLLMENT BASED CRITERIA BASED
UPON PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO
ARE ENROLLED. SO ONE THAT YOU
MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IS WHAT'S
CALLED A HISPANIC SERVING
INSTITUTION, WHICH MEANS THAT AT
LEAST 25% OF YOUR STUDENTS
IDENTIFY AS LATINX. THERE'S ALSO
ASIAN AMERICAN, NATIVE AMERICAN,
PACIFIC ISLANDER SERVING
INSTITUTION, AND APC, WHICH
MEANS AT LEAST 10% OF YOUR
STUDENTS IDENTIFY AS ASIAN OR
PACIFIC ISLANDER. AND THERE'S A
FEW OTHER EXAMPLES, ALL AT THAT
10% OR 25% THRESHOLD. SO, THERE
IS A TWO DESIGNATIONS FOR
SERVING BLACK STUDENTS AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL. ONE IS YOUR HBCU,
BUT THEN THE OTHER ONE IS WHAT'S
CALLED, PBI, PREDOMINANTLY BLACK
INSTITUTION. AND UNLIKE THE
ANAPISA, WHICH IS 10% OR THE CI
DESIGNATION, WHICH IS 25, IT IS
40. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
A FOCUS ON SERVING BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS, WE
SEE THAT AS PROBLEMATIC, BECAUSE
IF YOU LAY ON A ON A MAP, THE
INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE EITHER
PBIS OR HBCUS, THEY'RE ALL
CONCENTRATED IN THE SAME STATES
AND THE ENTIRE WESTERN UNITED
STATES, CALIFORNIA AND THE
ENTIRE MIDWESTERN UNITED STATES
IS LEFT OUT. AND SO WHAT THIS
BILL DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO SAY
TO OUR BLACK STUDENTS THE SAME
THING THAT WE CURRENTLY SAY TO
OUR LATINX STUDENTS, SAME THING
WE CURRENTLY SAY TO OUR ASIAN
STUDENTS THAT WE ARE HERE TO
SERVE YOU AND WE ARE COMMITTED
TO YOU, BUT IT ALSO AVOIDS SOME
OF THE SAME CHALLENGES THAT SOME
OF THE OTHER DESIGNATIONS HAVE.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ENROLLMENT
BASED FOCUS OR YOU HAVE A
MISSION BASED FOCUS. AND WHAT
HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WITH THE C
DESIGNATION, IN PARTICULAR,
PEOPLE HAVE FOCUSED ON THE FACT
THAT YOU CAN ENROLL STUDENTS AND
HAVE A HIGH DENSITY OF STUDENTS,
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE
ACTUALLY SERVING THEM. AND SO
THIS SOLVES BASICALLY TWO
PROBLEMS AT ONCE. ONE, BY HAVING
A DESIGNATION, BUT TWO, NOT JUST
A DESIGNATION BASED UPON
PERCENTAGE, BUT ALSO BASED UPON
WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO SERVE BLACK
AND AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS.
SO SACRAMENTO STATE, WE ARE
COMMITTED TO SERVING OUR BLACK
STUDENT COMMUNITY. WE HAVE
STARTED AN HONORS COLLEGE
SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON SERVING
STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN
BLACK HISTORY, LIFE, AND
CULTURE. WE HAVE THE LARGEST
ENROLLMENT OF BLACK STUDENTS IN
THE ENTIRE CAL STATE SYSTEM, AND
WE'RE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL AND WHAT THIS BILL CAN
DO. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW
EXAMPLES THAT I CAN SEE WHERE IT
DOES NOT NECESSARILY TAKE ANY
MONETARY INVESTMENT TO ACTUALLY
MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. THIS
HAS THE POTENTIAL OF TRULY, IF
PASSED, OF TRULY CREATING AN
ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN
SAY TO OUR BLACK STUDENTS IN
CALIFORNIA THAT WE ARE HERE TO
SERVE YOU AND THAT WE ARE
COMMITTED TO YOUR SUCCESS. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND, SECOND, THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WELCOME, THANK YOU
SO MUCH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS HERBERT ENGLISH. AND THANK
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY. I AM HONORED AND
HUMBLED AS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE
GRADUATE FROM RIVERSIDE CITY
COLLEGE AND NOW SERVING AS A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DEAN AT THE
COLLEGE THAT I ATTENDED, IT HAS
PROVIDED ME WITH AN OPPORTUNITY
TO PURSUE MY GOALS OF ACHIEVING
UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE
DEGREES. I ALSO SERVE AS A
CO-FOUNDER FOR BLACK STUDENT
SUCCESS WEEK. WE HAVE CELEBRATED
OUR FIFTH YEAR. WE CELEBRATE
THAT WEEK THE THIRD WEEK OF
APRIL, AND THAT HAS REALLY
BROUGHT OUT, AND SHED A
SPOTLIGHT ON THE
UNDERACHIEVEMENT OF AFRICAN
AMERICAN AND BLACK STUDENTS IN
OUR SYSTEM. I ALSO SERVE AS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE AFRICAN
AMERICAN MALE EDUCATION NETWORK
AND DEVELOPMENT. BETTER KNOWN AS
THE MEND. I AM PROUD TO STAND IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE SENATE
BILL 1348, WHICH SEEKS TO
ESTABLISH CALIFORNIA BLACK
SERVING INSTITUTION DESIGNATION.
SB 1348 IS A LANDMARK PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT ACKNOWLEDGES
AND ADDRESSES THE UNIQUE
CHALLENGES FACED BY BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS IN
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION BY
RECOGNIZING AND SUPPORTING
INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE DEDICATED
TO SERVING THESE STUDENTS. SB
1348 WILL ENSURE THAT OUR
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ARE
EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE THE
RESOURCES, SUPPORT AND INCLUSIVE
ENVIRONMENTS NECESSARY FOR THEIR
SUCCESS. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
THE CALIFORNIA BLACK SERVING
INSTITUTION DESIGNATION WILL
INCENTIVIZE EXCELLENCE AND
INNOVATION IN SERVING BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS BY
SETTING CLEAR CRITERIA FOR
RECOGNITION AND SUPPORT. THIS
PROGRAM WILL HIGHLIGHT BEST
PRACTICES, SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS,
ENCOURAGING OTHER INSTITUTIONS
TO ADOPT SIMILAR INITIATIVES.
THIS WILL CREATE A RIPPLE EFFECT
IMPROVING EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES
NOT JUST FOR BLACK AND AFRICAN
AMERICAN STUDENTS, BUT FOR ALL
STUDENTS ACROSS THE STATE. AS A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DEAN, I HAVE
SEEN FIRSTHAND THE PROFOUND
IMPACT THAT TARGETED SUPPORT
PROGRAMS CAN HAVE ON STUDENT
SUCCESS. INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE
IMPLEMENTED SUCH PROGRAMS HAVE
SEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN
RETENTION AND GRADUATION RATES
AMONG SMALL COHORTS OF BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS. FOR
EXAMPLE, INITIATIVES THAT
PROVIDE ACADEMIC SUPPORT,
MENTORING, AND CULTURALLY
RELEVANT PROGRAMING HAVE BEEN
PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE. THE
CALIFORNIA BLACK SERVING
INSTITUTION DESIGNATION WILL
AMPLIFY THESE EFFORTS, PROVIDING
A FRAMEWORK FOR EXCELLENCE THAT
CAN BE REPLICATED STATEWIDE.
FURTHERMORE, AS THE PRESIDENT OF
AMEND, I AM DEEPLY COGNIZANT OF
THE URGENT NEED FOR SYSTEMATIC
CHANGE TO ADDRESS THE ENDURING
INEQUITIES IN HIGHER EDUCATION.
SENATE BILL 1348 REPRESENTS A
PIVOTAL ADVANCEMENT TOWARD
CREATING AN EDUCATIONAL
LANDSCAPE IN WHICH BLACK AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS CAN
FLOURISH BY FOSTERING AN
ENVIRONMENT CHARACTERIZED BY
INCLUSION AND SUPPORT. THIS
PROGRAM AIMS TO DISMANTLE THE
BARRIERS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY
HINDERED SUCCESS OF THESE
STUDENTS. AMEND HAS PROACTIVELY
ESTABLISHED 47 STUDENT CHARTER
PROGRAMS ACROSS CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE, ENSURING THAT
STUDENTS BENEFIT FROM
MENTORSHIP, CONNECTION TO CAMPUS
RESOURCES, AND VITAL LEADERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES. FOR 18 YEARS,
AMEND COMPOSED OF AFRICAN
AMERICAN MALE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
FACULTY. DEAN, VICE PRESIDENTS,
PRESIDENTS, AND CHANCELLOR HAVE
BEEN DEDICATED TO THE SUCCESS OF
BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
MALES. OUR INITIATIVES HAVE
PROVIDED ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS SUCH
AS MENTORSHIP, INSPIRATION,
ACCOUNTABILITY, GUIDANCE, STUDY
ABROAD OPPORTUNITIES, AND
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. THESE
EFFORTS HAVE COLLECTIVELY
CONTRIBUTED TO SIGNIFICANT
STUDENT SUCCESS. IN CONCLUSION,
SB, SB 1348 REPRESENTS A BOLD
AND NECESSARY COMMITMENT TO
EDUCATIONAL EQUITY AND
EXCELLENCE. I URGE ALL
STAKEHOLDERS TO SUPPORT THIS
VITAL LEGISLATION AND JOIN US IN
CREATING A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR
BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
STUDENTS IN CALIFORNIA. THANK
YOU, SENATOR BRADFORD, AND THE
COMMITTEE FOR AGREEING TO THE
AMENDMENTS. THIS BILL WILL NOT
SOLELY IS NOT SOLELY ABOUT THE
NUMBER OF STUDENTS, BUT ALSO
ABOUT THE QUALITY OF SERVICE AND
SUPPORT WE PROVIDE. AS I SAID
EARLIER, I AM A GRADUATE OF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I WAS
SUCCESSFUL, BUT MANY THAT LOOK
LIKE ME ARE NOT. PLEASE, I AM IN
SUPPORT OF SB 1348. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM? THE OTHER PEOPLE?
KEITH CURRIE, PRESIDENT CEO OF
COMPTON COLLEGE, ALSO THE
CO-FOUNDER AND CHAIR OF BLACK
STUDENT SUCCESS WEEK, ALSO THE
NATIONAL CHAIR FOR BLACK
ENROLLMENT AND EXPERT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AS RELATES TO BLACK
ENROLLMENT NATIONALLY. AND WE I
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
NOEMI LUJAN PEREZ WITH THE
HISPANIC ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES
AND UNIVERSITIES HERE TO SUPPORT
SB 1348 AND SENATOR STEPHEN
BRADFORD'S EFFORTS. JESSICA D¯ÚI
WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. HI. CAROL
GONZALEZ, ON BEHALF OF LONG
BEACH CITY COLLEGE AND THE
EDUCATION TRUST WEST, IN SUPPORT
AND ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES
WHO COULDN'T BE HERE, THE
CAMPAIGN OF COLLEGE OPPORTUNITY
ALSO AND SUPPORT, THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ERIC BARKER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR. I'M
PROUD SUPPORT OF A SENATE BILL
1348. IDEAS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE ALSO IN SUPPORT. JOHNNY
VÌ WITH THE CALIFORNIA STUDENT
AID COMMISSION AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. TERESA ALDRIDGE,
PROUD 32 YEAR MEMBER AT COSUMNES
RIVER COLLEGE AND BOARD MEMBER
OF THE EMOJI COMMUNITY EDUCATION
FOUNDATION AND HI SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. KEISHA HUNT HERE WITH
NORSEMAN ON BEHALF OF CITRUS
COLLEGE IN SUPPORT. HELLO.
GENESIS GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ELENI
KOUNALAKIS IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM ARE THERE TWEENERS
IN THE HEARING ROOM? COLLEAGUES,
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
SEEING NONE. SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? I'M SORRY,
SENATOR MURATSUCHI. THANK YOU.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE OTHER
SENATORS READY TO PRESENT, THIS
IS OUR FINAL BILL. Ó. THIS IS
OUR FINAL BILL. OKAY. WELL. OH,
NO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK A
QUESTION. I THOUGHT WE HAD ONE,
TWO, THREE. ALL RIGHT. NO, I
DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. SENATOR WOULD
LIKE TO CLOSE, PLEASE. YOU
ROLLED YOU. I RESPECT THAT'S
VERY I VOTE THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, SENATOR BRADFORD, FOR
BRINGING THIS VERY IMPORTANT
BILL FORWARD AND FOR ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE'S COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. CALIFORNIA HAS LONG
LED THE NATION IN THE EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS DISPARITIES AND INEQUITY
GAPS IN OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.
THIS MEASURE IS A NECESSARY STEP
TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS AND
PARENTS UNDERSTAND WHICH
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES ARE FOCUSED ON
IMPROVING THE ACADEMIC SUCCESS
OF OUR BLACK AND
AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS. I
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS
MEASURE HERE TODAY. AND THANK
YOU AGAIN, SENATOR BRADFORD, FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS,
WITH THAT MADAM SECRETARY, ROLL
CALL, PLEASE FILE ITEM NUMBER
SIX, SB 1348. THE MOTION IS Dð
PASS, AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. FONG.
FONG I TO ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I
BERNER I. BERNER I, CHEN. CHEN I
MCSALLY. BRILLIANT INDIVIDUAL.
WE'RE ALL GETTING TIRED. IRWIN
JACKSON. JACKSON I LO LO I
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI I
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA. I THANK
YOU COLLEAGUES THAT MEASURES
EIGHT EYES AND IT'S OUT. WE'LL
KEEP THEM OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS. ADD ON. THANK YOU. AND
WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE
BLAZERS. YEAH I WILL GET ONE OF
THOSE BLAZERS TOO. THANK YOU.
LADIES LOOK VERY SHARP IN THAT,
YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATOR. LET'S CUT THE TIE HERE.
OH, AND THE TIE. HEY, MAN THEM
TAKE THEM SHOPPING WITH YOU
GUYS. THANK YOU. SENATOR. GOOD
TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. PLEASE WORK. WELL
DONE. YOU YOU WILL BE MISSED
HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COLLEAGUES. FOR A ROBUST
MEETING. I'M STILL HERE. YEAH,
YEAH, WE CAN DO. AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL ENTERTAIN Ã. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THE MEETING IS STILL
GOING. I APOLOGIZE IF, WE'LL DO
ENTERTAIN ADD ONS NOW. THANK YOU
SO MUCH, MADAM SECRETARY. ROLL
CALL, PLEASE. FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE, SB 895. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. JACKSON A, JACKSON. I
THAT MEASURE HAS NINE AYES AND
ONE NO. WE'LL KEEP THE DOOR OPEN
FOR ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. ADD ON
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE, SB 1200.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. JACKSON JACKSON I
THAT MEASURE IS TEN EYES WILL
KEEP THE WERE OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS AT ON. FILE
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB 1252. THE
MOTION IS Dð PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
JACKSON A JACKSON I THE MEASURE
TEN EYES WILL KEEP THE WERE OPEN
FOR ADDITIONAL MEMBERS ADD ON AS
A FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB
1411. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
BURNER I BURNER I JACKSON I
JACKSON I THAT MEASURE HAS NINE
EYES. WE'LL KEEP THE WERE OPEN
FOR ADDITIONAL MEMBERS AT ON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL KEEP
THE ROPE. IN ADDITION WE'LL KEEP
THE ROLL OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL
FIVE MINUTES. IF ANYBODY WOULD
LIKE TO ADD ON, THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR
A ROBUST MEETING. APPRECIATE
EVERYONE'S HARD WORK AND
EFFORTS. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
AGAIN TO OUR ASSEMBLY HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
YOUR TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP AND
SERVICE, AS WELL. THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. AND WE HAD A CONSENT
CALENDAR. I'M SO EXCITED. THANK
YOU FOR. SO LIKE MY WIFE. MY
BROTHER.
I JUST WANT TO JUST.
Þ. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH COULD YOU.
YEAH. CHAIR I THINK.
JUST. OH, YEAH. YEAH. OF COURSE.
YEAH. NO AS A CONSTITUENT. YOU
COULD ASK A QUESTION. THAT'S
JUST WHAT IT WAS. NO, NO, I
DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP A WORKOUT.
IT'S ON THE WAY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. SO, WOULD YOU
TELL ME OR. WE'RE GOING
SOMEWHERE? YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW,
IT'S OUR LAST OFFICIAL HEARING.
OH, OKAY. OH, YEAH. I GOT.
MISUNDERSTOOD. YEAH. OH, I THINK
OUR PLAN IS TO RETIRE FROM THE
COMMITTEE. AND, LIKE, BE
DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH. NOT AT
ALL. NOT AT ALL. SO I'M STATING
MY. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHEN
YOU'RE HAVING A REALLY GREAT
DISCUSSION? OH, YEAH. OKAY.
GREAT. POKER FACE THE NEXT TO
WATCH. IT'S LIKE MUCH BETTER. SO
NEXT TIME.
YEAH, YEAH. I'M GOING TO BE MY
WIFE AND DAUGHTER. HOW WONDERFUL
. KAMLAGER. THANK YOU. I'M
ACTUALLY NOT. INVOLVED BUT. YEAH
YEAH, THAT'S THE NEXT. MY
IN-LAWS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. I
USED TO. YEAH. SO I THINK. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL
ENTERTAIN, ADD ONS FOR OUR
ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, ROLL
CALL, PLEASE. THE CONSENT
CALENDAR CONSISTS OF TWO FILE
ITEMS. FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO, SB
939. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SB 1335.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. IRWIN
HI. IRWIN. I FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE, SB 895. THE MOTION IS DUE.
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. IRWIN NOT VOTING.
IRWIN NOT VOTING. DO WE NEED TO
DO A ROLL CALL? THE FINAL. THE
MEASURE HAS NINE EYES AND ONE
NOT VOTING. AND ONE NO. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. FILE ITEM NUMBER
THREE, SB 1200. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. IRWIN
IRWIN, I THANK YOU. THAT MEASURE
HAS 11 EYES AND IT'S OUT. THANK
YOU. FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SB
1252. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
IRWIN IRWIN, I THANK YOU. THAT
IS 11 EYES AND IT'S OUT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER SIX SB 1348. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
IRWIN IRWIN I THAT MEASURE IS
NINE EYES, TWO NOT VOTING. THAT
MEASURE IS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN SB 1411. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. IRWIN IRWIN, I THANK
YOU SO MUCH THAT MEASURES TEN
EYES AND IT'S OUT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, COLLEAGUES, FOR A ROBUST
HEARING TODAY. THE ASSEMBLY
HIGHER EDUCATION COMMITTEE,
THANK YOU TO THE ASSEMBLY HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE STAFF AND TO
EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH TODAY'S
HEARING. REALLY APPRECIATE
EVERYONE'S HARD WORK AND EFFORTS
WITH OUR COMMITTEE. AND WITH
THAT, I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A
HAPPY AND SAFE 4TH OF JULY AS WE
EMBARK ON AN INDEPENDENCE DAY
WEEKEND. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND
HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE! THIS
MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. THANK
YOU.